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CeCe

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Asian clients
« on: 28 February 2011, 07:29:38 pm »
I've noticed I get quite a lot of calls from Asians and 90% of the time they ask "do you see Asians?" Personally I feel to even consider not seeing people due to their race is outrageous. I can't see any other way to describe it than racism which I despise. However the frequency of the question implies a lot of ladies won't see Asians and I can't believe there's that many bigotted escorts out there >:(

Does anyone know why Asians have trouble booking escorts and can it be explained as anything other than racism. I can't help feeling I'm missing something here ???

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Re: Asian clients
« Reply #1 on: 28 February 2011, 07:38:05 pm »
I've heard girls mention this but I've never had it myself
I tend to get asked alot 'Do you see white guys' lol

I have no idea tho because I know quite a few girls who dont 'like' asian guys yet treat them exactly the same as any other!  ???

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« Reply #2 on: 28 February 2011, 07:44:36 pm »
Hi CeCe

I'd say it's possibly down to a few factors, one or more of the below:

1) Racism
2) Sexual Preferences
3) Previous bad experiences
4) Stereotypes and fear of the unknown

It's not just asian men, some black guys can be refused, younger guys also.

Personal choice.  Whilst we may not all agree with it people have their reasons.  We're providing a very personal service and it's better to outline criteria from the initial offset than do anything that makes someone feel uncomfortable as no one wins in that situation.

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Re: Asian clients
« Reply #3 on: 28 February 2011, 08:26:57 pm »
 I don't think the reluctance of some ladies to see Asian clients can be simply looked at as 'bigotry', there can be many other factors in their decision.

I would never ever have described myself as a racist person, in fact I hate bigotry in every form and was raised to regard everyone as an equal no matter what their colour, creed, sexuality etc.
But I am sad to report that my experiences with many of my Asian clients during my agency days were at best unpleasant and at worst bordering on assault. I am afraid to say that the majority of the Asian men I saw during that time (and I have to point out this was not a small percentage, many of my clients during the time were Asian, somedays I would see more Asian than non Asian clients) were rude, abrupt and made it very clear that they considered me nothing more than a series of warm, wet holes for their disposal. I had numerous occasions were I was left feeling violated and sickened by the complete lack of humanity displayed towards me by these men. There were many occasions where a group of young men would turn up all together to be serviced one after the other by the same girl. Interstingly I never encountered any other racial group acting in this manner, they were exclusively Asian. I have never been able to work out why that might have been. In fact even now as awful as I feel even saying this I actually feel quite sick and panicky when I see a group of young Asian men together. That is not a statement I am proud of but sadly it is a fact that the experiences I had have made me feel that way.
Also I do not believe it is only myself who felt/feels that way, not one lady as my agency was happy seeing Asian men, they all felt the majority showed a complete lack of respect towards them.

Now that I am independent I must confess I am reluctant to see Asian men due to my past bad experiences. Having said that though if someone can demonstrate the level of respect on the phone that I expect from all potential clients I will go ahead and see them. But I cannot deny that the treatment I received in the past has affected my previously unbiased views. I am actually quite sad about it because as I said earlier before I began escorting I would NEVER have expressed such views and would have considered anyone who did a racist. It is a very difficult issue indeed and I don't really have any decent answer for it. I hope nobody will jump on me for posting this as I have no desire to offend, just wanted to share my experiences as I have found them.


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« Reply #4 on: 28 February 2011, 08:31:59 pm »
Thanks everyone, especially Simone, that's certainly opened my eyes a little. Thank goodness we are independent and do our own screening!

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« Reply #5 on: 28 February 2011, 08:54:48 pm »
I have had nothing but good experiences with asian men, but because of the stories I'd heard I was very reluctant to see them at first. One really nice but shy guy could tell on the phone, and I felt terrible when I met him.

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« Reply #6 on: 01 March 2011, 02:10:27 am »
Since i reset my aw profile, I have in my aw profile that I won't see Asians for personal reason( as my ex bf was  one and I'm scared to meet any of his friends/relatives )

I figured rather than worrieing about it whenever I get  an Asian booking and the big relief when it's nobody you know.

But if this wasn't the case I proabably wouldn't mind where they're from, as I'm certain not a racist
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Re: Asian clients
« Reply #7 on: 01 March 2011, 04:53:01 am »
Yes I know a few Asian ladies won't see any Asian men due an encounter with a relative or friend. I don't have any restrictions on race, I like to take it on a case by case bases. However if I had an experience like Simone then I think I'd be very selective in who I take bookings from.

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« Reply #8 on: 01 March 2011, 09:38:37 am »
I agree with this, the reason is not racism, but previous bad experiences. I think all of us have had bad experiences with certain men in the past, and understandably we do everything to avoid it happening again if it can be avoided.  I've never been a racist person, I like to think that I'm open-minded and tolerant but I had hard times with that when I worked in London. I'm still prepared to see anyone who is respectful and nice on the phone but I can understand the other side too. I've never had exclusively bad or exclusively good experiences with certain races or nations or age groups though.

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Re: Asian clients
« Reply #9 on: 01 March 2011, 10:51:37 am »
There is nothing wrong in setting certain limits and exclusions in order to be comfortable. On the other hand, as 'Asians' is such a loose description, as is 'Blacks', in my view, both end up implying 'non whites'.

I had a very unpleasant experience with a client from North Africa on a dinner booking. It was an awkward situation of a sickening proportion and there were other people on the table, made to feel uncomfortable too. The evening was cut short and thankfully didn't proceed as planned, yet I still have this bad taste in my mouth from the memory.  For me, this client remains a despicable example of a mean human being, rather than a representative of a certain ethnic group or a geographic region.
This incident did not alter my perception of his particular group of origin, what it did alter was my tolerance of dinner bookings, hence I refuse them with new clients.

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Re: Asian clients
« Reply #10 on: 01 March 2011, 12:58:22 pm »
This incident did not alter my perception of his particular group of origin, what it did alter was my tolerance of dinner bookings, hence I refuse them with new clients.

Good lord, I can second this. And the person above who said it's not about screening for a race, it's about screening for manners and respect. I've seen clients from all ethnicities (probably? Haven't kept a proper count or anything ;)) but will say, "Oh, sorry, fully booked" and hang up on anyone who calls to ask me stupid questions, or who is rude/pushy, or who asks for unsafe services, etc etc etc. I think this is the best rule of thumb to use (although it's probably incredibly discriminatory against any men who were unfortunate enough to grow up without anyone teaching them how to talk nicely to people) for an independent worker; if I were in a parlour with other women and possibly also male security onsite, I would have no qualms about seeing almost anyone (NOT huge groups of guys loitering in the waiting area, though! That sounds scary and unsafe, regardless of their race).

As Nubian Temptress said, though, it's ultimately up to the individual sex worker to choose her own clients. If he or she cannot do this, then they are essentially working against their will and that's an unpleasant concept in general, let alone in our particular industry. There is no need to start a thread saying, "OMG! Who on earth [offers OWO/sees young clients/does anal/works after 1am]? That's gross, yucky, stupid, pathetic, etc" and although I'm sure the OP only had genuine concern about the topic of racial stereotyping, I'll remind anyone for future reference (since this thread has been fine so far :)) that questioning other escorts' personal working preferences is unnecessary, or at least, this is not the place for it.
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« Reply #11 on: 01 March 2011, 05:19:48 pm »
I can understand where they are coming from when they say "I don't see xxx clients". From my personal experience, I have found black guys to be the most troublesome.  I would say that about 70% of the clients that mess me around turn out to be black.

Now, I would never discriminate based solely on the colour of a persons skin, but it has often been rather tempting to simply ignore all requests from anyone that sounds black. I am glad I have never done this though, as some of my most loyal and enjoyable clients are black themselves, and as mentioned in before, proper screening eliminates most of the wasters anyway.

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Re: Asian clients
« Reply #12 on: 03 March 2011, 09:52:07 pm »
I don't get many Asian clients, (they seem to prefer my blonde colleagues!)  but I know a few escorts who refuse to see them.

 I'm afraid to say that in my own  experiences with Asian clients (from Bangladesh, India, Pakistan- the guys from the Far East are some of the best clients I've had) I've found, generally speaking, that they are reluctant to shower and in fact, do anything I ask of them! I don't think it's unreasonable to ask my clients to wash first but everyone has their own rules. I take offence to anyone who doesn't- regardless of race! I think that if they're that disrespectful at the start then what are they going to be like when you're feeling more vulnerable and naked?!

I also find Asian clients' general behaviour towards me isn't always as respectful as most of my other clients, same as Arab clients. I just put this down to their culture. We work with the 'public' and understanding different needs and cultures is part of ut job, but we have a right to feel comfortable and to enjoy our jobs.

On the other hand, I 've had some lovely Asian clients  :)

I wouldn't turn anyone down due to race, disabilities etc but would always make my rules well known before taking a booking.
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Re: Asian clients
« Reply #13 on: 03 March 2011, 10:59:06 pm »
I haven't had any trouble with respect from Indian and Bangladeshi clients (British-born or not). There's been some annoying ones, but nothing statistically significant. I don't know if I've seen any Pakistani men so can't comment on them.

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Re: Asian clients
« Reply #14 on: 03 March 2011, 11:49:35 pm »
Ive had a few really lovely asian clients who are some of my favourite regulars. Always respectful, clean and great company and I couldnt say a bad word about them.

However I have had some shockers too who always seem to have bad hygiene and are aggressive and 9 times out of 10 try and force bareback.
Im usually quite sceptical about seeing them but if they send me a polite message and have good feedback then Im more than happy to.
Cant stand the ones who message me in the slang "yo bbz u wana fuk" etc.

Im certainly not racist though and used to date a pakistani bloke.
And just to balance things up, I have had some smelly horrible white clients too. Bad hygiene is the worst thing ever! So disrespectful but I sometimes think these men just have no idea that they reek. How hard is it to put some chewing gum in, roll some deodrant on and apply some soap to the genitals and bum. Pure laziness!