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« Reply #15 on: 11 December 2014, 01:17:34 am »
If I were actually considering employing an agency I'd want to know the following things:
- What cut do you take?
- How will you vet potential clients?
- How will you ensure my safety during a booking?
- Will I need my own incall place, or will you be outcalls only or offer both?
- Can I have my face blurred in my photos on the website?
And so far your posts have answered.. none of those questions ::)

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« Reply #16 on: 11 December 2014, 08:07:38 pm »
None of what?s written here is based on ?looking at some agency websites? but is in fact the result of primary research from experience within this particular industry.

Ah, you're a punter.

And I assure you, our knowledge of business and economics isn?t acquired through watching The Apprentice, and has more to do with further education and combined experience in a variety of industries such as web development, engineering, accounting and also manufacturing.

If you were even reasonably competent in any of the fields you mention - none of which have anything to do with this - you'd be earning a good living working in them (and quite why you think repeatedly mentioning education is a mystery to me when we're talking about one of the comparatively few industries where it's neither necessary nor relevant), not suddenly deciding to take on a huge and diverse sector saturated with competition from all sides, virtually all of whom know more about it than you do. Why suddenly decide that pimping is the way forward?

The people here combined have hundreds of years of real industry experience behind them, and we've been sitting watching threads like this come and go since time immemorial; everybody and their dog thinks they can run an 'escort agency' and posts like yours are ten a penny right down to the solemn assurances of how 'different' you are. Even leaving aside the potential for prosecution, has it even occurred to you that there might be more to it than setting up a pretty website, convincing some hapless women (and if you're going after 'girls' you're breaking a few more laws) to employ you and then answering a few phone calls whilst you wait for the money to rain down from the sky?

And for God's sake, drop the patronising chumminess and the '@'s. This isn't Twatter, and if you're trying to convince intelligent adults to not only give you money, but potentially put their lives in your hands when you have already admitted you haven't got a clue what you're doing and sound like you've just left college, you're going to have to do better than that.


If I were actually considering employing an agency I'd want to know the following things:
- What cut do you take?
- How will you vet potential clients?
- How will you ensure my safety during a booking?
- Will I need my own incall place, or will you be outcalls only or offer both?
- Can I have my face blurred in my photos on the website?
And so far your posts have answered.. none of those questions ::)

I naively fell for it and sent them an email and they promptly and kindly responded but yes as you say , it sounds like a man may be behind this.  They asked me to send some pictures and information about myself to which I responded that I'd rather wait for their website to be up and running but in the meantime they could look at my AW profile.

I sent them a link to my profile and surprise surprise,'they' /he haven't(hasn't) responded...
« Last Edit: 11 December 2014, 08:10:29 pm by MiaSg »

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« Reply #17 on: 12 December 2014, 01:46:29 am »
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Ah, you're a punter.

If you were even reasonably competent in any of the fields you mention - none of which have anything to do with this - you'd be earning a good living working in them (and quite why you think repeatedly mentioning education is a mystery to me when we're talking about one of the comparatively few industries where it's neither necessary nor relevant), not suddenly deciding to take on a huge and diverse sector saturated with competition from all sides, virtually all of whom know more about it than you do. Why suddenly decide that pimping is the way forward?

The people here combined have hundreds of years of real industry experience behind them, and we've been sitting watching threads like this come and go since time immemorial; everybody and their dog thinks they can run an 'escort agency' and posts like yours are ten a penny right down to the solemn assurances of how 'different' you are. Even leaving aside the potential for prosecution, has it even occurred to you that there might be more to it than setting up a pretty website, convincing some hapless women (and if you're going after 'girls' you're breaking a few more laws) to employ you and then answering a few phone calls whilst you wait for the money to rain down from the sky?

And for God's sake, drop the patronising chumminess and the '@'s. This isn't Twatter, and if you're trying to convince intelligent adults to not only give you money, but potentially put their lives in your hands when you have already admitted you haven't got a clue what you're doing and sound like you've just left college, you're going to have to do better than that.

Not a punter.

Maybe not relevant to the ad but sure holds some relevance to your assumption that The Apprentice is our source of knowledge. And you can't seriously claim that education and professionalism have no bearing on this industry? It might follow a more unusual business plan but it's a business nonetheless.   

Wasn't patronising you but merely addressing your response. But why you would (indirectly) suggest that we're going after underage girls, for using the word 'girl' as opposed to 'woman' is beyond me.

".. already admitted you haven't got a clue what you're doing". No, you just made that up. And we don't disagree with you, but we certainly are aware that there's more to it than a good website and answering the phone. Although we never suggested otherwise.

And just out of curiosity, what's an appropriate/acceptable ad for an escort agency in your opinion? I mean, I get the fact that it's generally frowned upon and they all get quite heavily scrutinised. Correct me if I'm wrong but we've adhered to all the rules for posting (point taken about badmouthing competition, although no particular agencies were mentioned).

Anyway, it's hardly my intention to sit behind a computer and argue an in-exhaustive discussion. But sincerely, thank you - some of your comments are genuinely quite thought-provoking (not patronising you).

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If I were actually considering employing an agency I'd want to know the following things:
- What cut do you take?
- How will you vet potential clients?
- How will you ensure my safety during a booking?
- Will I need my own incall place, or will you be outcalls only or offer both?
- Can I have my face blurred in my photos on the website?
And so far your posts have answered.. none of those questions

All valid questions, and I'll address them one by one.

1. What cut do you take?

For argument sake, let's assume an hourly fee of ?100.
First job: escort takes 65%, i.e. ?65
Second job: escort takes 60%, i.e. ?60
Third job: escort takes 50%, i.e. ?50
Fourth job: escort takes 50%, i.e. ?50
Fifth job: escort takes 55%, i.e. ?55

This will vary in the first month or so, as we have plans for an introductory bonus scheme, so potential earnings could be much higher.

However, please understand that we're wary of how much information we disclose on a public forum, with unrestricted access to virtually anybody. That's not to say that we're withholding this information, but we would prefer to communicate any further details through a more private platform such as email or telephone.

2. How will you vet potential clients?

Screening potential clients is a tricky task, and almost impossible to verify the identity of a caller, nor their intentions. Like Fabulassie said, there's a lot more to it than being sober and coherent, but having a conversation with a potential client would give at least give some sort of indication whether this person might be a troublemaker. We're NOT going to send you on job where we feel your safety might be jeopardised.

3. How will you ensure my safety during a booking?

Escorts would be required to notify us of safe arrival and most importantly of their departure from a client's address. In an event where we fail to verify your safety, we will not hesitate to establish immediate contact with the police.

Of course, your driver will be present outside the property at all times as an additional safety measure, and if at any point you feel endangered, or simply uncomfortable you may ask them to escort you (pun unintended) back to the car, and away from the address.

4. Will I need my own infall place, or will you be outcalls only or offer both?

Our initial plans are for an outcall-only service.

5. Can I have my face blurred in my photos on the website?

Absolutely - we wouldn't expect otherwise. Every escort's face will be blurred for the sake of privacy.

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I naively fell for it and sent them an email and they promptly and kindly responded but yes as you say , it sounds like a man may be behind this.  They asked me to send some pictures and information about myself to which I responded that I'd rather wait for their website to be up and running but in the meantime they could look at my AW profile.

I sent them a link to my profile and surprise surprise,'they' /he haven't(hasn't) responded...

Not sure If I understand correctly, but are you suggesting that this is all some elaborate scheme to get girls to send us photographs? I'm sorry but that's absurd and I won't even entertain this bizarre hypothesis.

In regards to not having responded to your email yet, we've received a number of enquiries and are dealing with them as quickly as we can, whilst also concentrating substantial efforts on finalising the website.

Your AW profile is more than sufficient for the time being and we'll be in touch in a few days once the website is live.

Thank you.

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« Reply #18 on: 12 December 2014, 09:40:43 am »
Hi thanks I did receive your email.
So your cut would increase by 5% each job ?! Down to 50 % ?! Then back up again ? Why ?
 So if my initial rate is at ?200 ,at one point I'd end up working for ?100 /hour ?  :o :-\
Surely it should be the other way around if you want to create an incentive for girls to keep on working with you.


This is a part that I also find worrying:
"Of course, your driver will be present outside the property at all times as an additional safety measure, and if at any point you feel endangered, or simply uncomfortable you may ask them to escort you (pun unintended) back to the car, and away from the address."

Please correct me if I misunderstood you but surely  if I'm truly endangered by a punter, he's not going to willfully let me out of the room is he, let alone go to the car? :/


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« Reply #19 on: 12 December 2014, 09:41:30 am »
Fucking hell, those commission rates are shocking. I thought you said that your commission rates for the escorts were high? Didn't know these are standard rates.
I get some work from an agency and they charge a flat rate of 20%. That is for the gay escorts and for the women.

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« Reply #20 on: 12 December 2014, 09:46:36 am »
Fucking hell, those commission rates are shocking. I thought you said that your commission rates for the escorts were high? Didn't know these are standard rates.
I get some work from an agency and they charge a flat rate of 20%. That is for the gay escorts and for the women.

Wow ! :o

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« Reply #21 on: 12 December 2014, 11:33:19 am »
Wasn't patronising you but merely addressing your response. But why you would (indirectly) suggest that we're going after underage girls, for using the word 'girl' as opposed to 'woman' is beyond me.

Let me tell you why.  You repeatedly use the word 'girls' in your initial post.  Simple!

To describe a sex worker as a girl is dismissive, rude, condescending and patronising. Its whorephobic and contributes to the stigma of sex work. Do you describe clients as boys? No, I did not think so but you are more than happy to describe women as girls.  Given you intend to profiteer from these 'girls' you refer too, perhaps you might want to consider using less derogatory and misogynistic  terms.

So I will be clear, avoid confusion so what I am saying is not beyond you to comprehend.  The term girl is used to describe a female child although childhood to adolescence and then, what a surprise she becomes a woman.

The use of the word girls implies you are employing children (see aforementioned definition if you don't get it) or you think female sex workers  need to be treated like children.

« Last Edit: 12 December 2014, 11:35:45 am by Claire Jayne »

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« Reply #22 on: 12 December 2014, 12:15:06 pm »
...50% is a lot to take. An agency with no site, run by a man that takes more commission than the other agencies- I don't see how you could possibly claim to be any better than the competition out there.
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« Reply #23 on: 12 December 2014, 01:30:08 pm »
This is hilarious! 50% commission? For what? You must be having a life!
Stick to indie I say.

They don't have a clue.

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« Reply #24 on: 12 December 2014, 01:54:47 pm »
Fucking hell, those commission rates are shocking. I thought you said that your commission rates for the escorts were high? Didn't know these are standard rates.
I get some work from an agency and they charge a flat rate of 20%. That is for the gay escorts and for the women.

Just to clear up. I pay the agency 20% of my rate and I keep 80%. I wouldn't be listing with them if it was any more.

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« Reply #25 on: 12 December 2014, 02:35:23 pm »
Not a punter.

So, out of curiosity, what else does..

experience within this particular industry

..mean?

And just out of curiosity, what's an appropriate/acceptable ad for an escort agency in your opinion?

The ones that don't get this sort of response are those that show some Clue, preferably from one that's been up and running for a while. Most of those without Clue don't last that long, as I suspect you will discover because...

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1. What cut do you take?

For argument sake, let's assume an hourly fee of ?100.
First job: escort takes 65%, i.e. ?65
Second job: escort takes 60%, i.e. ?60
Third job: escort takes 50%, i.e. ?50
Fourth job: escort takes 50%, i.e. ?50
Fifth job: escort takes 55%, i.e. ?55

.. this has to be the least Clue-ful idea here since the guy who wanted female clients to sign a contract saying they agreed to have sex with him within a couple of minutes of opening the door.

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Not sure If I understand correctly, but are you suggesting that this is all some elaborate scheme to get girls to send us photographs? I'm sorry but that's absurd and I won't even entertain this bizarre hypothesis.

And if you don't realise that it isn't absurd, it's more evidence of the level of experience and Clue. There are many others, but I suspect we're approaching the limit of free advice.
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« Reply #26 on: 12 December 2014, 04:56:30 pm »

For argument sake, let's assume an hourly fee of ?100.
First job: escort takes 65%, i.e. ?65
Second job: escort takes 60%, i.e. ?60
Third job: escort takes 50%, i.e. ?50
Fourth job: escort takes 50%, i.e. ?50
Fifth job: escort takes 55%, i.e. ?55

I'd be interested to know the rationale behind this very peculiar commission structure  ???

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« Reply #27 on: 12 December 2014, 07:59:43 pm »
? Ridiculous commission rates!
? Who pays for the driver and the car?
? We are women not girls who legally work in this industry.


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« Reply #28 on: 12 December 2014, 08:44:16 pm »
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we will not hesitate to establish immediate contact with the police.

So you willingly place yourself on their radar.  :FF

No disrespect intended, but from reading your initial forum post, you appear to have no experience. That lack of experience will guarantee a spot at Wandsworth for a couple of years.

From personal experience I would steer clear of operating an escort agency. You will need a big wallet for solicitors fees.

There are many other lucrative avenues within the adult industry.
An escort agency is the most risky.

Consider changing your website into a directory before the cops arrive.

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« Reply #29 on: 12 December 2014, 09:16:34 pm »

2. How will you vet potential clients?

Screening potential clients is a tricky task, and almost impossible to verify the identity of a caller, nor their intentions. Like Fabulassie said, there's a lot more to it than being sober and coherent, but having a conversation with a potential client would give at least give some sort of indication whether this person might be a troublemaker. We're NOT going to send you on job where we feel your safety might be jeopardised.

3. How will you ensure my safety during a booking?

Escorts would be required to notify us of safe arrival and most importantly of their departure from a client's address. In an event where we fail to verify your safety, we will not hesitate to establish immediate contact with the police.

Of course, your driver will be present outside the property at all times as an additional safety measure, and if at any point you feel endangered, or simply uncomfortable you may ask them to escort you (pun unintended) back to the car, and away from the address.


Thanks for actually answering those questions.. but all they establish is that you are just like every other escort agency in that you propose taking an extortionate amount of earnings and don't have a clue how to vet clients. You can't just speak to someone on the phone to try and get a feel for them.

Also most of the agencies who have drivers tend to work on a shift basis, so an escort will work a whole evening as opposed to taking bookings arranged in advance. Is that what you intend to do? Have an escort sat in a car with a driver for an evening going back and forth to bookings? I'm only asking because the first agency I employed did that and I didn't get to shower or even freshen up between clients and spent hours sat in a car until 5am with a strange man I didn't know.