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cecilia.chic

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« on: 20 October 2008, 09:13:32 pm »
Hi ladies,

I just wondered whether OWO was industry standard in the UK?  OWO (or BBBJ as we say) is standard practice where I live but I don't want it to become mine.

How can I resist the repeated requests without losing business?  My compromise has been that the condom can come off to ejaculate and that pleases most but I know it will continue to come up.

Do you give OWO, if so, why or why not?  I just want to know how other girls have made their choices so that I can make sure I"m doing the right thing for me!

Thanks!

Cece

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Re: OWO
« Reply #1 on: 20 October 2008, 09:40:30 pm »

 If this is the choice you've made, then Oral with protection IS the right thing for you to do. If you are not comfortable offering it, don't offer it period- If other WG's are doing it and men are asking for it, tough. You can't let your boundaries on your health and safety be influenced by what other people are doing in this work, it's not their body it's yours, and it's your peace of mind. If you want to offer OWO go for it, but you needn't do something just because other people are  :)You might lose some business, but you might gain some too, and those you gain may be those more appreciative of your boundaries and better clients for it.

I searched AW for my area, and a lot of girls are offering bareback sex- And I have been asked for it, but this is something I would never do- so I say no.  I wouldn't offer it EVEN if it was industry norm and I was the odd one out. It's sort of similar.

 If they ask for it just say you don't, and justify your reasons too- It's better for both of you: If you had gonorrhea or herpes he could get that through oral, and then have to explain it to his wife or partner where he got those sores and warts or what these antibiotics are for. (I reckon pointing that out may shut some mouths) Similarly you can get it from giving oral without also. It saves him a lot of explaining and stress AND health,  and it saves your health and everything else besides.

And if you aren't comfortable giving it, then every time you do give OWO more likely than not it'll be planting worry in your mind, and you'll hate doing something you don't want to that crosses your chosen boundary. I'm willing to bet some men would appreciate this- Just as they wouldn't want someone who has unprotected penetration so they may appreciate a girl who is putting full safety first.

Sorry** Didn't mean to shout/lecture you hope I haven't, just it's quite clear you've made a choice for yourself and are feeling pressured to change it, and I wanted to do some cheerleading xx
 
« Last Edit: 20 October 2008, 09:42:29 pm by Evie »

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Re: OWO
« Reply #2 on: 20 October 2008, 11:10:55 pm »
Hi Cece,

I've been through this phase to do I, don't I and eventually I read and researched OWO heavily and took the decision that when I begin working again I wont offer it. Just peace of mind really as every time I'd visit the clinic it would weigh on my mind if 'this time' it might come back with something. Basically not offering it takes away one worry that would otherwise always be present, then all that crops up is what about RO.. But the risks seem sufficiently (in my opinion) reduced there but I can't help but have a nagging feeling that if I wont offer OWO then why offer RO.. So  :-\ .. I definitely want to kiss though, I think if I made a no RO rule that I might break it so it'd be better to keep it available from the start than chop and change my mind.. But I haven't entirely made up my mind about RO yet.

It's all just about what makes me feel happier as if I'm anxious about something during a booking it'll just make the booking feel stilted as I wont relax with something on my mind. And I really don't like the idea of being in the position of telling the clients who've seen me I have a lurgi that they almost now certainly have - not a nice position to be in.

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Re: OWO
« Reply #3 on: 21 October 2008, 12:11:59 am »
I do owo because I despise it with! I like giving head!! I have had a couple of men insist on having protected oral and I just don't like it, because I enjoy doing it and you just can't do the same things with a condom on and the taste is minging (not that you don't get the odd minging cock, but I clean those)!!

At the same point, I don't do CIM - which is an industry standard! I often get asked why I don't do it, and tell them it's because I don't like the taste. Although I've been asked about it many times, I don't feel I've ever lost business from it. Everyone has their own sectors in the market and you'll find yours.

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« Reply #4 on: 21 October 2008, 12:53:13 am »
I think offering OWO may be more common than not here, but there are still plenty of girls that don't do it. I don't do it and I miss giving proper head (it's true: it's not the same), but I don't want to be partly responsible for someone's wife getting the clap, even if it's the guys that should be covering themselves against that.

Whatever you choose, I advise against making compromises. Some people will push you as far as you'll go, and crossing one line encourages them to work on others.

cecilia.chic

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« Reply #5 on: 21 October 2008, 01:27:40 am »
Thanks a lot.  These are all great answers and you've given me more strength to stick to my guns about not doing OWO.

  What is RO and CIM?  I'm sure I know WHAT it is, I just haven't come across the acronyms before.

cecilia.chic

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« Reply #6 on: 21 October 2008, 01:33:00 am »
I think offering OWO may be more common than not here, but there are still plenty of girls that don't do it. I don't do it and I miss giving proper head (it's true: it's not the same), but I don't want to be partly responsible for someone's wife getting the clap, even if it's the guys that should be covering themselves against that.

Whatever you choose, I advise against making compromises. Some people will push you as far as you'll go, and crossing one line encourages them to work on others.

Can you explain what you mean a little bit further?  About the compromises, I mean.  The one I mentioned (about taking off the condom to cum on my chest) was one that I came up with because it works for me.  NOt good?

lexienight

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Re: OWO
« Reply #7 on: 21 October 2008, 01:48:34 am »
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Can you explain what you mean a little bit further?  About the compromises, I mean.  The one I mentioned (about taking off the condom to cum on my chest) was one that I came up with because it works for me.  NOt good?
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Of course its good, i bet your clients will love that compromise.  I offer owo after doing my research because it is something i feel comfortable with but again i dont do CIM (cum in mouth).  I have to say, i dont offer any service that i wouldnt offer in my normal everyday sex life (if i had and everyday sex life!!!).  I have never let any boyfriend CIM so im not about to let a client do it.  Saying that, there are a few things i would let a boyfriend do that i wont let a client do... but im not telling you lot what they are  :)

L.x

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Re: OWO
« Reply #8 on: 21 October 2008, 01:53:04 am »

 
I think it's that the compromise was YOUR idea that makes the difference- Give an inch, take a mile. If someone pressured you into OWO then they might try for CIM, or for something else. Dangerous precedent. I think your compromise rules actually, I may try it!

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« Reply #9 on: 21 October 2008, 02:00:26 am »
Can you explain what you mean a little bit further?  About the compromises, I mean.  The one I mentioned (about taking off the condom to cum on my chest) was one that I came up with because it works for me.  NOt good?

Oh yeah, that's fine if you're happy with it. I wasn't really sure what you meant and was just concerned if you'd been talked into making compromises. Listen to Evie, she's making more sense than me.

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Re: OWO
« Reply #10 on: 21 October 2008, 02:07:55 am »

 
.....If someone pressured you into OWO then they might try for CIM, ......

I have their dick in my mouth... just let them try to pressure me in to something i dont want to do.... i dare them!!!!!  ;)

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« Reply #11 on: 21 October 2008, 02:30:22 am »
Thanks a lot.  These are all great answers and you've given me more strength to stick to my guns about not doing OWO.

  What is RO and CIM?  I'm sure I know WHAT it is, I just haven't come across the acronyms before.

http://www.puntingzone.com/acryn.html

this link has the acronyms that should help.  I have to say it made me giggle the first time i looked through it... someone has really thought about this stuff eh  :D

lexienight

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Re: OWO
« Reply #12 on: 21 October 2008, 03:02:51 am »
no sorry thats the wrong link.... there is one that has BB and CIM etc..

http://www.puntingzone.com/terms.html

there is a better one somewhere but i cant find it.  this should tell you all you need to know
« Last Edit: 21 October 2008, 03:05:21 am by lexie »

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Re: OWO
« Reply #13 on: 21 October 2008, 12:54:41 pm »
Hi ladies,

I just wondered whether OWO was industry standard in the UK?  OWO (or BBBJ as we say) is standard practice where I live but I don't want it to become mine.

How can I resist the repeated requests without losing business?  My compromise has been that the condom can come off to ejaculate and that pleases most but I know it will continue to come up.

Do you give OWO, if so, why or why not?  I just want to know how other girls have made their choices so that I can make sure I"m doing the right thing for me!

Thanks!

Cece

We've been here before. Don't do ANYTHING that you are not comfortable with, whether it's kissing or hardsports. I have never heard of services being talked about in terms of 'industry standard'; it all just sounds very much like an excuse to say 'everybody else does it so you should too....'. What other people do is irrelevant (in the vast majority of decision making, as far as I'm concerned at least).

I do OWO because I detest the taste, smell and surface texture of condoms (including the flavoured ones), plus the 'teat' part makes me gag and choke. I have availed myself of all the information available and made an informed choice - anyone who prefers their oral covered is welcome to have this on request, but I much prefer the taste of nice clean man. I keep some spearmint condoms just in case and I have been asked once - I also do CIM but again, this is personal choice and I certainly wouldn't say it was 'standard' anything (I'm a game girl  ;D). My clients are responsible for their sexual health; if they do not inform themselves of the risks involved I am happy to explain them but ultimately it is their call, not mine. In almost twenty years of giving and receiving unprotected oral as either girlfriend or prossie I have never had so much as a cold sore - I observe the 'no brushing' rule two hours either side and am in excellent health, which I'm sure helps.

cecilia.chic

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Re: OWO
« Reply #14 on: 21 October 2008, 04:40:09 pm »
Hi everyone,

I've also done the research and I also hate the taste of condoms but I'm still not offering OWO.  Thanks for your replies, it really helps reinforce how much control I have over the service I perform.  I guess because I'm new, I still need a little confidence building. :-\

Cece