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Title: The big scam agency thread
Post by: Anika Mae on 05 August 2008, 06:29:27 pm
--Most of this post deals with one type of scam, as it's by far the most common. Near the bottom there is some advice about other agency scams. There's also some links to help you find a real agency.--

There is an old scam that people have used to get money from wannabe models for years. "Sure, you'd be a great model, we'll get you loads of work! You'll need to have a portfolio though, just give us ?200, we'll do a photoshoot with you and you'll be ready to start your exciting new career!" In the last couple of years, people have started making a mint by exploiting wannabe escorts in the same way. We don't want you to be one of them, but there's no point in just warning against specific scams. Since they have no interest in establishing a business, they'll drop a name as soon as there are too many warnings about it and start with a new one, so you need to learn to spot them in any guise. Fortunately, most of them are obvious if you know the signs.

These scams mostly target the huge number of people who would like to cater to markets that in reality are vanishingly small: male escorts for women, and social-only escorting*. They'll take money from anyone though, and to make sure they don't exclude any potential victims, they'll let you know that there's a great demand for escorts of any gender, age, or level of attractiveness. You'll find these ads in local classifieds, and as websites online.


Here's how to spot the scammers:


1. They're marketing to escorts, not clients.

Nowhere is the demand for escorts so high that clients are in surplus and escorts are sought after, it's not how business works! Every service provider needs a steady stream of clients to make money, especially the sort of money these people promise. Therefor a real agency will want to get some good escorts on the books and then go out seeking clients for them. If it's a website you're looking at, look at it from the perspective of a client. If it has less to offer clients then it's offering escorts, it's not going to attract clients.


2. Claims of unrealistic, undiscriminating demand.

"There's a huge emerging market of women seeking male escorts." There are loads of women out there who want to pay you to have sex with them. Sounds too good to be true, doesn't it? That's right, it's too good and it's not true. In the heterosexual sex and dating market, women are in demand, not men. Sure, sometimes women get horny or want some company and don't have a man readily available, but they don't go looking for anyone with a penis who they can pay to spend time with them. That's a separate topic though, back to this one.

The other market scammers invent is the one for social escorts. This one is a lot more believable because of the "time and company" fiction that's rampant in an attempt to avoid prosecution (even on many independent escort's sites, where it's not necessary). It's a fiction though: we're being paid for sex. Not always full penetrative sex, sometimes more talking and cuddling then sexual contact, but it's still about the sex. Plenty of clients do like to take an escort to dinner, sometimes to social functions or on holiday, but most of them will want to have sex at some point. Like the market for straight male escorts, the market for escorts who only escort is very very small.

If you're dedicated you can try to find these markets, but you'll have to be special and lucky.


3. You have to register to see the escorts.

This is something that scam agencies often do and real agencies rarely do. When using an agency, clients don't want to put a lot of effort in. In addition, some of the fake agencies won't even let you make a booking with one of their escorts if you try.


4. You need to spend money to make money.

This is the most important, but you won't know that's how they operate until you sign up, so look for other signs to avoid wasting your time. In many cases you do need to spend money to make money, but being an agency escort isn't one of them (other than getting supplies for the job). Escort agencies take on escorts, advertise the agency, take calls from clients and set up bookings. Only when their escorts have been paid for the booking do they take a fee, in the form of a commission charged on every booking. This is usually 30%, but may be more if you work in a premises which the agency provides.

There are a lot of websites that take a monthly or annual fee in return for featuring you on the website, but these aren't agencies, they're advertising sites. Most of them aren't worth the money, and if they're posing as agencies you should rule them out immediately.

Some fake agencies are quite sneaky about the fee, there was one that proudly claimed to have no upfront fees. It worked by giving you the first month free. During that time, a booking would be arranged but later canceled. Another booking would be requested, but after the initial free month, so you'd need to pay the fee if you wanted to accept it. The unfortunate men who got this far would turn up to the booking to find no client.

There is only one reason a genuine agency may ask you to part with money before you get a booking, and that's for photos. Just about every agency operates online these days and they'll be able to promote you more effectively if their clients can view your pictures. They may be happy to use pictures that you provide, but if you don't have any or they don't like the ones you have, they'll probably want you to do a shoot with their in-house or preferred photographer. Don't give an agency money just because they say it's for photos though, be critical. Do they fall afoul of any of the first three points? Are they established? Can you find evidence that they really do offer an escort service to real clients in your area? If you're not sure about paying for photos, agencies should be able to get you some work initially by promoting you on the phone.


If you want to see some examples
...of real agencies and fake ones, just search Google for 'escort agency' (http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=escort+agency). The results highlighted in yellow at the top, and the ones at the right are sponsored links. The list below the yellow bit contains Google's best-ranked sites for the search term. The links which aren't sponsored are real escort directories and agencies, while the sponsored links are almost all scam agencies. You can see that the scams are focusing on attracting escorts, while the real ones try to attract clients. The real agencies cover areas no larger than a couple of counties, while the fake ones cover the whole country, continent or world. The real agencies have comprehensive marketing strategies which have got them ranked highly on Google, while the fakes just have throw-away sites that will only get noticed if they pay for advertising. By the way, they pay every time you click, so if you're upset by what these people are doing, click away!


Other things to watch out for.
The scam described above is the most common, but there are other ways people posing as agents may take advantage of you. They might try to get some money from you by way of the overpayment scam (http://www.hoax-slayer.com/overpayment-scam.html). Others are just after free sex. One way of doing this is to require an "audition" with the owner, one of their "male escorts", or one of their "regulars". Don't do it, you're not required to prove your skills before you can work, a fully-clothed chat is all it takes. Another way of doing it is to send you on a job that you never get paid for, with a person or people who aren't real clients, they're the owner or people colluding with him. The agency will say they're taking the payment by credit card and will pass it on to you, but they never do. You could also be paid with a cheque that bounces. Some agencies do accept credit card payment, but you shouldn't take that kind of booking until you've worked for the agency for long enough to know that they'll pay you.


The one rule for avoiding scams is that you should never give anyone money or provide a service until you've been paid.
And for payment you should only accept cash in your hand. No cheques, credit cards, bank transfers or currency you're not familiar with.


There's another article that deals with this issue here (http://www.sw5.info/straightmen.htm), and another thread on this forum here (http://www.saafe.info/main/index.php?topic=23.0). You should now be able to tell the difference between a real agency and a scam, but if you want to ask about an agency, please do it here. If the agency turns out to be real and people want to discuss it, I'll move it to it's own thread.


If you're a woman who's willing to have sex with men, you shouldn't have much trouble finding a real agency. The Punterlink listings are a good place to start:
http://www.punterlink.co.uk/london_agencies.htm
http://www.punterlink.co.uk/regional_agencies.htm
There's also some advice about chosing an agency in this thread (http://www.saafe.info/main/index.php?topic=395.0).


*Running an agency that provides sex is illegal, so many genuine agencies have a disclaimer to say that they're not offering sex. That sort of thing isn't cause for concern, but if someone makes a point of telling you that their clients just want charming dinner companions, assume it's a scam.
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: xw5 on 05 August 2008, 07:08:49 pm
Wonderful stuff!

The two slight additions I would make is that in at least some Google searches, the scammers have the top 'real' links as well as paying for ads. Don't trust Google to sort out the scams for you.

The other is to reinforce the bit about doing something about them. Yes, click on the links, but also complain to the place you found the ads! (If you can't trust these ads, why trust any others?) Complain to the Advertising Standards Authority! (At least one scam's Google AdSense ads have had to be toned down as a result.) And if you spot a new one, post about it here or elsewhere! (Especially if it caught you.)
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: Anika Mae on 05 August 2008, 07:30:55 pm
Yes, good points. Also, some real agencies do use Google ads as part of their marketing. It's quite easy to spot the difference though: the real ones say "we've got escorts", the fake ones say "we need escorts".

Maybe we should use the thread in the warnings section to list scams.



Edited to add that I'm wrong! I just saw an ad for Platinum Select which meets my real agency criteria. Platinum Select is quite a slick-looking site that you can't immediately tell is a scam. Look further and you'll see that what they're offering is merely advertising, and not very good advertising since you have to sign up to see the ads.
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: Hermione on 05 August 2008, 10:28:54 pm
Forgive me if this has been posted elsewhere.  What, if anything, is actually being done to catch/penalise the people behind these scams? 
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: xw5 on 11 August 2008, 07:58:59 am
I just saw an ad for Platinum Select which meets my real agency criteria. Platinum Select is quite a slick-looking site that you can't immediately tell is a scam. Look further and you'll see that what they're offering is merely advertising, and not very good advertising since you have to sign up to see the ads.

Yes, Platinum are one of the ones who are good enough at gaming the rankings to get the top one for some searches.

What you see from them depends on what you search for - if you're doing a 'male escort' one, they're trying to sell you the impossible very rare dream, but searches they think are for female escorts get the 'we have loads of cheap escorts, pay us money to see more' scam.

What, if anything, is actually being done to catch/penalise the people behind these scams? 

Not enough!

One bunch is in Spain and seem to be involved with other 'payment up front' scams ('We have a client who wants to buy your timeshare, please send money... oops, they dropped out, you can have a refund after a year... oops we've gone into liquidation...' repeat with new company). Their latest looks to be Escortopia, but they have many, many more and doubtless have a host of other names to use as word gets out each time. That and being in Spain makes it possible for them to keep going.

Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: Fallingstar on 11 August 2008, 11:29:34 am
Brilliant advice Anika mae ;D

I have personal experience of Platinum select myself as a few years ago when i was younger and dafter i fell for one of their scams. At the time this involved 'signing up' as an escort for what i thought was a one off payment of 20 quid via debit card. Of course i got no work and when i checked my statements on my on line banking months later (i used to be terrible with money) I discovered they had been taking 20 quid per month out of my bank account!!!!!!!!!!!! It then took countless emails,complaints etc before they cancelled my details.

Its terrifying to think how many unscrupulous people are making money out of peoples naivety   :(
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: Anika Mae on 11 August 2008, 01:38:44 pm
Yeah. I spent at least an hour writing that post and was quite pleased with it until I thought about what a tiny proportion of people would find it before handing their money over. It's depressing.
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: xw5 on 11 August 2008, 02:25:34 pm
quite pleased with it until I thought about what a tiny proportion of people would find it before handing their money over. It's depressing.

Some people can't be helped because they will hand over money first and only think about it later.

Think about how many people have been warned off - one day, I will do the sums of how much has been saved by the SW5 message board and have a very big smile.
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: brandy@saafe on 11 August 2008, 08:43:33 pm
Yeah. I spent at least an hour writing that post and was quite pleased with it until I thought about what a tiny proportion of people would find it before handing their money over. It's depressing.

I think you and XW5 did a fine job myself. There's not really much else that you can do or say.
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: blonde_amanda on 24 August 2008, 07:07:18 pm
hi girls,

i know this question may have been asked before but are europiean escorts agency any good? i am about to pay them ?325 (what i have been told, i can't work for them before i pay that amount as this is insuarence and without i cannot work for them, hence why the charge but i still do not know what kind of insuarence it is and what it covers) because they are telling me that they have an appointment for me for this tusday even without seeing my picture or asking for my details and what i offer!!!??? does this sound like a scam or am i reading into things too much???

would love to hear some opinions as i am not sure what to do, yes i have read posts about giving money up front but they're saying it's for insuarence purposes only so not sure if it's a scam or not.....please help

amanda xx
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: Anika Mae on 24 August 2008, 07:47:14 pm
It's a scam. As I said, the only valid reason you'd need to pay upfront would be for photos, and even then you should be skeptical. The fact that they don't want to know anything about you except that you have the money means it's 100% pure scam.
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: blonde_amanda on 24 August 2008, 07:59:17 pm
thanks for your advice anika mae!!! that's what i thought as well but wanted to know what you girls thought about it as well!!!! do these scam agencies not get prosecuted, or how do they run on legitimate terms ???? im confused xxx
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: brandy@saafe on 24 August 2008, 08:01:34 pm
hi girls,

i know this question may have been asked before but are europiean escorts agency any good? i am about to pay them ?325 (what i have been told, i can't work for them before i pay that amount as this is insuarence and without i cannot work for them, hence why the charge but i still do not know what kind of insuarence it is and what it covers)....

Running or owning an escort agency where sexual services are offered is illegal, so I'd like to know exactly what type of insurance it is they have and who they pay their premiums to.
It's crap.
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: blonde_amanda on 24 August 2008, 08:08:30 pm
they have never said what exactly insuarence covers but they do not let anyone go out on jobs without that insuarence, which sounded like a scam to me after having read this site!!!!! although they say its for the insuarence purposes but when i asked them what it covers, i was told its bruises and 'in case anything happens with a client' which made me very wary, as in what do you mean 'in case anything happens with a client?!?!?!?!??!

i am very surprised these agencies do not get prosecuted???!!! does it mean that they are legitimate because they do not get get prosecuted????

thanks for the advice girls xx
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: Anika Mae on 24 August 2008, 08:41:11 pm
Oh no, they're not legitimate. I believe the large operations are based on countries where it's difficult to get at them. There are probably loads of smaller ones too (those ads in local papers) where there are just too many to chase.
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: blonde_amanda on 24 August 2008, 08:51:40 pm
well i found them on google so i don't undertand how they get away with it....makes me and i am sure other girls so cross....it's so not fair...a friend of mine fell for it on friday and i was going to sign up next week but was going to ask you girls first before making a mistake.....

thanks so much for support and advice....im quite cross i want them kind of agencies to get prosecuted, is there a way of doing that? because i feel they should not be allowed to do what they are doing xx
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: Chelly on 25 August 2008, 01:12:44 pm
I'm just 18 and I know this is the job I want, but I am really nervous about starting up. Ive contacted one agency, but if whats said above is anything to go by then its probably not a real agency.
Could anyone offer me any advice on how I could get started?

Chelly
x
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: Anika Mae on 25 August 2008, 01:17:45 pm
Chelly, have you read the articles on the main site? http://www.saafe.info/

There's also some advice about selecting an agency here: http://www.saafe.info/main/index.php?topic=395.0

Please read through the information that's already been posted and then ask if you have specific questions remaining.
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: Anika Mae on 27 August 2008, 01:42:53 am
Here's a nice example of how scammers can lull you into a false sense of security:

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article1594635.ece

"If we don't find you any bookings in 48 hours we'll refund your registration fee*. You can't loose!"

*After your registration period is up. Will you still be around here next year? We certainly won't.

Many scams boast that they don't charge a registration fee or something along those lines. It's always something like this and you lose your money just the same.
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: xw5 on 29 August 2008, 08:42:57 am
Ah, that story has spread to the national papers.

Yes, RNME are one of the 'we invent bookings so we can keep the money' scams.

Interestingly, they do refund it if you sue them ('him', I suspect, as their website may still have a broken link to a PC owned by a 'Gavin Marsden') which is at least a step up from the Spanish lot.
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: cassie on 31 August 2008, 07:53:25 pm
Hello ladies,

Am I glad I found you. I'm so new I haven't really a clue what to do and how to get started. I would like to sign up with an agency, as I am not confident enough to start out independent and don't have a clue yet how to start a website.

I have just spent a long time over a few phonecalls talking to a woman from escortopia.co.uk. She was extremely convincing, very friendly and chatty and had a plausable answer to every question and despite all your warnings I am very torn about signing up. If this is all BS it is really well done.

She has told me she has a booking, actually a triple booking, friday night dinner, saturday lunch and a 'personal booking for late saturday afternoon, for me; all with th same man - a 45 year old interior designer from Milan, called Roberto - who is interested in booking me when he hasn't see a picture, and only has the description of my height, hair, eyes, nationality, age and dress size?  ??? ::)

And adding up all his expenses he would be paying more than a grand, just to have dinner with me? Hmmm...

Of course before this can be finalised I have to part with ?395.  :-\

reading this over I have to say I am such a fool - and still I am tempted >:(  :o

How bad is that!

Anyway thanks for reading my ramblings, hope you don't mind giving me 'a leg up' as it were.

Cassie x

Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: anjali on 31 August 2008, 08:43:01 pm
of course it sounds tempting and plausable, they are not going to say, "were ripping you off here" car dealers, estate agents, and bloody sales reps, are all the same

you are having doubts, and can see yourself its all suss, as you say, they know nothing about you, yet allready have a booking lined up, if they are serious, why not take you fee after the booking

Like my mother used to say, if it sounds to good to be true, it probably is, and thats definatley the case here, walk away keep your money, and hopefully you will find a legit agency soon
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: cassie on 31 August 2008, 09:04:09 pm
Thanks Anjali,
You are so right - i guess it's more wishful thinking that it could be so easy.
In reality I know nothing in life is that simple and though i haven't started I imagine being an escort is just as hard work as any job,but for a decent wage.
 Take care x
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: strawberry on 31 August 2008, 11:01:04 pm
You could tell them to take it out of the first fee! If it's so genuine then they shouldn't have a problem.
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: cassie on 02 September 2008, 09:42:52 pm
That was a good idea strawberry, they told me that I need to pay upfront to set up the ad for me and more importantly so I could get my 'escort license' and public liability insurance before I see my first client. Aparently also since the customer pays cash yhey felt it was too complicated.

Doesn't instill much confidence does it?

Will try a couple more agencies, but am considering independent.
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: strawberry on 02 September 2008, 11:55:28 pm
So it's too complicated for you to pay them via whatever method you were going to anyway? Obviously too complicated in the first place then.
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: cassie on 03 September 2008, 12:15:44 am
Yeah, they were starting to get lame with their excuses - told them to forget it.

So it's trying to find a genuine agency or going indie. I would like to be independent, but don't have anyone for security or driver, which seems to be the minimum security for out calls.
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: Anika Mae on 03 September 2008, 12:44:57 am
You can find someone here to swap security calls with. Not everyone uses drivers but I do for all home visits. When I started I didn't have anyone, so I only visited hotels. Obviously you miss out on some work, but it's an option.
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: cassie on 03 September 2008, 12:55:41 am
Ah right, cool.
Which category should I post on to see if anyone fancies swapping security calls with me in the near future.

Basically I've handed in my notice, so I've got 3 and 1/2 weeks to get going :o

This is the first time I have done something without a guarantee it will work out and I am so excited.

I know this has nothing to do with the topic, but just had to say it anyway.
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: Anika Mae on 03 September 2008, 01:01:14 am
Er, this category would be ok, or the Buddy System. Have you asked for a buddy? It could be helpful since you're new, and she might be able to check up on you.
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: cassie on 03 September 2008, 01:09:21 am
Yep, I'm being a good student of the site and have posted a message requesting a buddy and also sent an email to Penny directly. I haven't heard back yet, but it was only early Tuesday morning I sent it.

I've also looked at a number of agencies local to me, I live in Chester, in the directory on punterlink now, but all the girls advertised there are very stereotypical young, slim girls and I wouldn't feel right there or wonder if they would even consider a mature bbw anyway.

So I think indie is the way to go.
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: jennysim on 03 September 2008, 01:12:58 am
hi just on the european agency thing myself and yeah they wanted money upfront, im really glad somebody pointed this web site out,n your all fab thanks,

does anybody know any genuine agencies in manchester by any chance???
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: cassie on 03 September 2008, 01:15:53 am
There's quite a few listed on punterlink in the escort directory. got that tip from the site here. Don't think they are for me, see message before, but might be of use to you.

Good luck. x
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: Sasha on 03 September 2008, 12:02:56 pm
cheshire companions are genuine, covering manchester. I dont know much about them but know someone who works for them so theyre real at least!
xxx
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: candygurl77 on 08 September 2008, 09:18:29 pm
Hi, I am SO glad I did a bit of research as I was off to pay ?225 to europeanescorts tomorrow. The woman called Beth really sold the idea to me. She said how she had a guy called James who was from Spain and he was coming to England this week. Staying at the Hilton in Canary Wharf. He was really nice and good for me as it was my first date. I noticed that the last time I spoke to her (spoke quickly Saturday and told her couldnt talk so call back Monday - today) she told me it was ?400 cash in my hand as soon as we met, then today it was ?550. She really did talk the talk. I said to her how broke I was etc, she said I have to speculate to accumalate when it came to this business - when we discussed the joining fee. I could have my profile with no pics for ?225 or with pics for ?325. She would find me loads of work. There was a lot of chatting in the background, phones ringing. I tried to ring to speak with Beth earlier in the day, but noticed it was a ring tone as if I was ringing abroad so put the phone down.

How can these people live with themselves knowing alot of us do this because we are in desperate times. Beth even told me how she was a single parent and she done this etc..

If it was ?50 maybe I would have taken the chance, but considering I am flat broke its not a chance I can afford to take.

Beth asked me to pay in the money to HSBC - so it would be cash - make it out to Blue Media and then she would ring me later tomorrow when I have done it. Will post again if she gets in touch.
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: Richard on 09 September 2008, 05:10:25 pm
Having their cake and selling it too!

I see that scam site domain name EuropeanEscorts.co.uk is available for sale at Escort-Marketing.com along with the equally scamming Escortopia.co.uk

They may not all be scams, but I thought it would be a fair bet that the scammers will start using some of the other names there whilst also trying to sell them. So I looked:

escort69.co.uk - 123-reg domain registrars holding page
escorts69.co.uk

escort2000.co.uk - doesn't have a site
escorts2000.co.uk

premierescorts.co.uk - "premier escorts" - looking at the domain, it says it used to be 'Russel Elliot's Premier Male Escort Agency'. The links don't work, but russelelliot.co.uk does. It looks to be a failed attempt to do a straight male agency (it puts off men from applying rather than lying to them).

The next batch end up there too:

escortsforhire.co.uk - escorts for hire
escorts4hire.co.uk - escorts 4 hire
escortforhire.co.uk - escort for hire
escorthire.co.uk - escort hire
escortshire.co.uk - escorts hire
menforhire.co.uk
escortz.co.uk
iwantsomesex.co.uk - "I want some sex"
london-male-escorts.co.uk
quality-escorts.co.uk
men4hire.co.uk
englishgentlemen.co.uk
britishgentlemen.com
ukgentlemen.com
britishgentlemen.co.uk
ukgentlemen.co.uk

escortbiz.co.uk - another 123-reg holding page

lasttango.co.uk - "last tango", ditto

iescortu.co.uk - "I escort U", ditto

olympicescort.com - "olympic escort", ditto

eternal-escorts.com - redirects to European Escorts - gotcha!

fridaygirls.co.uk - "friday girls" - redirects to apparently legit ad site london-independents.com

escortdomain.co.uk - "escort domain", ditto

They reckon to have sold:

manstrokewoman.com - redirects to European Escorts (ha!)

malescorts.co.uk - ditto (ha ha!)

elitegirls.co.uk - guess what?

escortsworld.co.uk - you'll never guess

adorabelles.co.uk - redirects to a Adorabelles European Escorts page which then goes to you know where!
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: lana on 17 September 2008, 12:22:43 pm
hi,
I have been in contact with an agency called escortopia, i have just read all the threads on your site, i was called and told that due to the high level of business they had reduced the rate to ?75 which i paid yesterday and as you can guess have not heard anything to an apparant "confirmed booking"  can you recommend any decent agencies please???
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: Sasha on 17 September 2008, 04:38:56 pm
Hi Lana,
the way to find a decent agency in my own experience, is by looking for one that covers a region, for ex, london and airports, manchester, yorkshire etc. these are more likely to be genuine. then  meet up with them, if theyre any good they will want to meet you too.
take it from there, if you feel comfortable then go for it, but dont pay any cash upfront until you've been paid first!
good luck!
xxx
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: cassie on 17 September 2008, 09:22:17 pm
Oh no, Lana, sorry to hear they got you - I posted a thread yesterday here saying offering a reduced rate was their latest trick and lexie confirmed they tried the same with her.
You must have missed that one.
Good luck with your agency search, after reading all the advice on here and feeling reassured that I will get good friendly and non judgemental support of the ladies here, experienced and new, I am going independent and am working on my website as we speak.

Take care hun.
Cassie x
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: KellieBear on 01 October 2008, 02:44:34 pm
Ok, I'm new to this. Is there such a thing as an agency that charges registration and maintenance fees that are not scams but really do bookings? If so, then what is an acceptable fee?
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: Anika Mae on 01 October 2008, 03:06:09 pm
No, there aren't any agencies that do that. There are lots of advertising sites that you can use as an independent escort and many of them do charge, however many of the best ones in the UK are free so the ones that charge are mostly not worth the money. If you find an advertising site that claims to be an agency, it's probably dodgy.
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: candygurl77 on 02 October 2008, 09:27:45 am
European Escorts rang me again the other day. The same woman called "Beth". I pretended I wasnt well cos I just didnt want to hear her sales patter again. She said she had quite a few guys lined up for me....

I know its bad to lose any kind of money to these people, but if I had taken her up on the idea ?75 is better than the ?325 it could have been. I just cant believe no one has exposed these fraudsters.
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: lexienight on 02 October 2008, 07:10:18 pm
We are exposing them.  Unfortunatley not everyone finds this and other forums quick enough.  I thought about writting to watchdog but im not sure the BBC are ready to take on scam escorting agencies just yet.  I might have a go though....
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: Bear on 26 November 2008, 06:22:01 am
I've just been scammed out of an extortionate amount of money by hilton escorts.  I can't believe I was so stupid. Throughout every conversation with them, I kept asking for a contract or written confirmation, or something, but seem to have parted with a months wages with nothing in return.   The last words I said to them were along the lines of "I just hope this isn't some kind of scam cos I'm so broke I'll have my flat repossessed."  I hope they all rot in hell.

In the meantime I intend to bombard the citizen's advice bureau, the Office of Fair Trading, Watchdog and anyone else I can think of. This needs to be stopped.  Just because it was an escort agency should mean they get away with it cos peeps are too embarrassed to complain!

But til then I'm jumping into a bottle of vodka cos they've robbed me of an obscene and embarrassing amount money.  HILTON ESCORTS - AVOID AT ALL COSTS!!!
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: UrbaneAspects on 26 November 2008, 07:11:37 am
HILTON ESCORTS - AVOID AT ALL COSTS!!!

Disgusting and Im sorry it happened to you!  :'(  apparently, they bullshit pretty well in an example of one of their testimonials...

"Although I was sceptical at the beginning because I have been scammed by a couple of companies, Hilton Escorts have been true to their word. i am having so much fun and being paid loads of money for it."
Brian from Kent

Ha...its a straight male escort testimonal, bullf*ckingsh!t  :D


Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: Jo on 27 November 2008, 10:46:31 pm
Beware of this outfit too, they have been going for years, want money up front blah blah and they are STILL advertising even after numerous complaints, I saw an advert for them only yesterday in the back of the local rag promising high earnings etc.  ::)
http://www.onlybyinvitation.com/
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: brandy@saafe on 27 November 2008, 11:17:05 pm
Thanks Jo. Another one for Scamblog methinks.
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: Jo on 08 December 2008, 11:22:08 pm
Blimey o riley, I've just found myself on Platinum Select (which I understand are a scam?) luckily I saw it as I found an email from them which I binned and then thought better of it and lo and behold they had kindly set me up as a Gold member free of charge  ::)
http://www.platinumselect.com/escorts/gold_portfolio.asp?id=57552&examples=true&members=true#

I have been given a link to sign into if I want to remove my details but I am annoyed that they have taken pics from my site which is copyrighted and then written a profile with spelling errors that they have made up themselves.
Keep an eye out girls for your details being used on there.
I will be trying to get mine removed in the next day or two but I want my webmaster to see it first.
x
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: phil316k on 11 December 2008, 02:39:29 pm
I've just been scammed out of an extortionate amount of money by hilton escorts.  I can't believe I was so stupid. Throughout every conversation with them, I kept asking for a contract or written confirmation, or something, but seem to have parted with a months wages with nothing in return.   The last words I said to them were along the lines of "I just hope this isn't some kind of scam cos I'm so broke I'll have my flat repossessed."  I hope they all rot in hell.

In the meantime I intend to bombard the citizen's advice bureau, the Office of Fair Trading, Watchdog and anyone else I can think of. This needs to be stopped.  Just because it was an escort agency should mean they get away with it cos peeps are too embarrassed to complain!

But til then I'm jumping into a bottle of vodka cos they've robbed me of an obscene and embarrassing amount money.  HILTON ESCORTS - AVOID AT ALL COSTS!!!

I feel your pain, im ?350 down.... but going through the motions with my bank as of today, so fingers crossed
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: bedover on 15 December 2008, 05:07:49 pm
Theres an agency called SEXY ESCORTS,they advertise in FHM,GOOGLE,FACEBOOK etc,and yes theyre a con,have to admit it,I fell for it,probably because I didnt do my homework! Just to let others know about it,and everything Ive read is so true,the promise of work,the client who doesnt exist,all bull
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: Kelly7 on 19 December 2008, 05:39:59 pm

I feel totally sick.........  I have just given my credit card details to HILTON ESCORTS..... my instinct told me to check the internet (an after thought ) and then I have come across this sight telling me it's all a total scam.......... for crying out loud! I have never done escorting before and responded to an ad put in my local paper.  I spoke to a woman at Hilton and she was so friendly and really convincing.  I can't believe I have been so stupid.

I read some other peoples stories..... has anyone been successful in getting their money back through Consumer Act 1974 Section 75 - because goods / service hasn't been supplied?????????

I have just rang my credit card company (useless) and they wouldn't stop the payment but said they will refer it to the dispute team..  HAS ANYONE ELSE DONE THIS AND GOT THEIR MONEY BACK??????

Please let me know as I am going out of my mind here - I can't beleieve I have been taken for a ride!





I've just been scammed out of an extortionate amount of money by hilton escorts.  I can't believe I was so stupid. Throughout every conversation with them, I kept asking for a contract or written confirmation, or something, but seem to have parted with a months wages with nothing in return.   The last words I said to them were along the lines of "I just hope this isn't some kind of scam cos I'm so broke I'll have my flat repossessed."  I hope they all rot in hell.

In the meantime I intend to bombard the citizen's advice bureau, the Office of Fair Trading, Watchdog and anyone else I can think of. This needs to be stopped.  Just because it was an escort agency should mean they get away with it cos peeps are too embarrassed to complain!

But til then I'm jumping into a bottle of vodka cos they've robbed me of an obscene and embarrassing amount money.  HILTON ESCORTS - AVOID AT ALL COSTS!!!

I feel your pain, im ?350 down.... but going through the motions with my bank as of today, so fingers crossed
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: pashi on 05 February 2009, 03:21:44 pm
Seen an ad, for Unique121 - I rang them up and I was asked to give ?350 for 6months or ?550 for the year. Does anybody know if this is a legite organisation? thx
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: amy on 05 February 2009, 04:52:52 pm
Seen an ad, for Unique121 - I rang them up and I was asked to give ?350 for 6months or ?550 for the year. Does anybody know if this is a legite organisation? thx

The first part of your post answers your question more than adequately. Read this http://www.saafe.info/scam_agency.html (http://www.saafe.info/scam_agency.html) and don't hand over any money.
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: mg on 30 April 2009, 08:32:57 pm
Seen an ad, for Unique121 - I rang them up and I was asked to give ?350 for 6months or ?550 for the year. Does anybody know if this is a legite organisation? thx
hi my name is mat i was told a similar thing with 121 they told me 550 for 6 months so i borrowed money to join and paid 200 and its been 5 weeks with no jobs they keept saying wait for phone call clients lined up etc i only joined with them as being a escort sounds perfect to me, if you do find any agency that are genuine could you let me know cheers
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: amy on 30 April 2009, 08:43:05 pm
Seen an ad, for Unique121 - I rang them up and I was asked to give ?350 for 6months or ?550 for the year. Does anybody know if this is a legite organisation? thx
hi my name is mat i was told a similar thing with 121 they told me 550 for 6 months so i borrowed money to join and paid 200 and its been 5 weeks with no jobs they keept saying wait for phone call clients lined up etc i only joined with them as being a escort sounds perfect to me, if you do find any agency that are genuine could you let me know cheers

Mat, did you actually read the link I posted?

If you are a straight guy (and I'm assuming you are), the best thing to do is give up now. It will not happen. There must be dozens if not hundreds of posts on the forum explaining why - use the Search button at the top and try straight male escort, or something. Obviously the people on the phone who want your cash are going to make it sound like a licence to print money - that's their job (and just out of interest, why do you think that being an escort would be perfect? I'm keen to know what they are actually telling people to make them fall for this bollocks).

At the end of the day, a lot of blokes have trouble getting women to shag them for free, let alone pay them for the privilege. Fortunately for us ;D
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: Fairy86 on 06 August 2009, 03:43:21 pm
Hi All

Am interested in getting into the escorting industry... ideally social escorting.. but I guess as I become more experienced I may consider in other areas too.

I have almost been scammed by Crystal Escorts.. fortunately found a few sites like this that warned me off :o)

Would really appreciate any advice or tips or good agencies or websites to try. I'm 23 and based in the southampton area, but for good money would move to london. I have my own transport and immediately available...

Where should I go from here?

Thanks in advance xx
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: anjali on 06 August 2009, 07:08:34 pm
This question has been asked a few times on this forum and the advice is always the same, there are few to no agencies dealing with the social side, as the market is virtually none existant, if you want to test the water my advice is set up a free site, and try promoting yourself advertise as available for shows (you have the Boat show next month in Soton) and other events the only thing you have to loose is time
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: Dean on 07 August 2009, 09:37:41 am
Hi.
Like Anjali has said, the social side of escorting is nigh on none existant. Punters/clients automatically expect "extras". Unfortunately, it's just the way the world sees escorts lol.
As regards getting scammed....a very common problem. A lot of agencies will require an "admin" fee, registration fee or "professional photo-shoot" (from ?300 upwards) before listing you or providing you with work.
I would not recommend moving city to start out. There's no guarantee of earnings, whoever you're registered with.
My partner and I have just started a new agency dealing primarily with Surrey and Sussex. We would be happy to place you on our books if you could get to calls in Sussex.
We offer free registration, photo-shoot if needed and a free profile page on our site, [link deleted]
Again, we are very new and trying to build up both girls and a clientele, so unfortunately, we can't guarantee the amount of work you will receive. However, it would give you a chance to "test the water".
Good luck with however you decide to go.
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: brandy@saafe on 07 August 2009, 10:12:16 am
We offer free registration, photo-shoot if needed and a free profile page on our site, [link deleted]
Again, we are very new and trying to build up both girls and a clientele, so unfortunately, we can't guarantee the amount of work you will receive. However, it would give you a chance to "test the water".
Good luck with however you decide to go.


Please don't plug your site on here. You're welcome to send Fairy86 a pm. This part of the forum is for support and advice, not to advertise your new business.
At the very least ask permission from us first.
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: Dean on 07 August 2009, 10:38:44 am
Humble apologies.
My main intention was to offer advice (which I think I did).
Will ensure it doesn't happen again.
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: sara1981x on 26 August 2009, 04:22:14 pm
MALE ESCORT SCAM vipmaleescort.com with added forum
These scammers are now using forums to reel guys' in. escortagencyjobs.com disappeared very quickly, however I've spotted a new site where a FAKE 'Brian' likes to encourage newbie's to buy all sorts of rubbish such as websites and books. Brian claims to be really busy with clients, but surprisingly he spends a lot of time on the forum chatting. Then we have fake Angelica, read the posts carefully and whatever you do don't think about joining or responding. The whole set up is a confidence trick. If you can't spot the con then its sale for them. Go to the forum! SCAM FAKE ESCORT SITE with lots and lots and lots of links SCAM 'vipmaleescort.com'

The scam escort forum http://www.maleescortforum.com/ Read carefully and try not to be tempted into thinking this set up is genuine. IT IS A SCAM! The conversations people are having are very plastic and false. The web designer 'Web Diamond Ltd' is a fake name ready to be struck of companies' house for failing to produce accounts. This set up is very complex with many links.
Check out 'Brian's photos' vipmaleescort.com look carefully and if you have experience in web or Photoshop you will see those pictures with the exotic background are FAKE.
You will also notice content stolen from other web sites and the book he claims to have written is causing a few problems. Brian actually thinks he can copy another book and change the title.
These scams are increasingly becoming harder to spot, however the good news is that Brian has forked out a lot of money buying many domain names which are quickly getting the attention of certain scam websites.
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: mobycap on 22 September 2009, 07:41:15 pm
They got me too

I can't believe this.

I signed up via one of the websites that comes up when you type in male escorts into google.

They kept hounding me but I was always busy and never picked up. Eventually, they got through and I registered with them 5 weeks ago and the same thing happened.
I had a booking which cancelled and I didn't hear anything from them. I've been calling the past few weeks and everyone keeps saying that they'll get back to me, but they don't.

Today, one of the women just shouted down the phone at me whilst I remained calm and was trying to find out what was going on.

This evening I've found this site. I feel like such a dummy.


Did anyone get their money back? How did you go about it?
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: mobycap on 23 September 2009, 09:18:37 am
Anyone have any problems with www.massage-dating-services.co.uk?
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: Fallingstar on 23 September 2009, 12:47:55 pm
Its a scam and steer well clear. ANYTHING where you have to 'sign in' just to see the portfolios is a scam. Why would a genuine agency make it hard for a potential client to view their escorts?
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: airporthoneys on 26 September 2009, 05:53:24 pm
When searching on google search by the escort agency you want in your area

ie Sussex Escorts or Exeter Escorts

Do not be afriad to ask questions either
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: Penny on 30 September 2009, 12:56:29 pm
Anway we can sticky this post?  Its invaluable and would be good for all to see and not get lost among the other posts.

Ive had three ladies contact me in the past week re scam agencies, one had parted with a lot of money and fortunately the other two hadnt.

Pointed them all in the direction of this post.

Thanks

Penny x x
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: Anika Mae on 30 September 2009, 01:03:24 pm
It used to be sticky (and I added the capitals because people still weren't reading it!), but I think Brandy felt it didn't need to be cluttering the top of the forum now that everything from the original post is contained in an article on the main site.
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: brandy@saafe on 30 September 2009, 04:49:34 pm
It was sticky for nearly a year. People are going to be scammed, no matter what. Even when this was sticky, the amount of posts we used to get from newbies saying, "if only I saw this site first".
All we can do is hope find this site first before parting with their hard-earned.
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: chocaluvva1 on 06 October 2009, 08:09:00 pm
Im thinking of becoming an escort, and these do sound professional and very goood...but there are many scams around....
Anyone know anything about them...please???
http://www.massage-dating-services.co.uk
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: Alexxx on 06 October 2009, 08:33:31 pm
Anyone have any problems with www.massage-dating-services.co.uk?
Its a scam and steer well clear. ANYTHING where you have to 'sign in' just to see the portfolios is a scam. Why would a genuine agency make it hard for a potential client to view their escorts?

It's worth reading the replies to other posts as most of these questions have been answered already!

It seems like a scam, as colette says

There's plenty of advice on genuine agencies. Read the entire thread and you'll find loads of info from ladies in the know x
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: amy on 06 October 2009, 08:49:20 pm
Anyone have any problems with www.massage-dating-services.co.uk?
Its a scam and steer well clear. ANYTHING where you have to 'sign in' just to see the portfolios is a scam. Why would a genuine agency make it hard for a potential client to view their escorts?

It's worth reading the replies to other posts as most of these questions have been answered already!

It seems like a scam, as colette says

There's plenty of advice on genuine agencies. Read the entire thread and you'll find loads of info from ladies in the know x

Well said. I also noticed there was a valuable clue in the thread title, where it says 'How to spot scam agencies - NEWBIES READ THIS RIGHT NOW'. This would suggest to me that, well, reading it might not be a bad idea (although if the poster couldn't even be arsed to look 5 posts up on the same page, I despair, tbh).
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: xw5 on 06 October 2009, 08:51:03 pm
Beat me to it :)

Yes, although this one's not quite as blatant as some - nowhere does it talk about wanting money off its escorts victims upfront, the terms and conditions are the giveaway:

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2. All profiles placed on the web site shall be published on the members section of the website for 12 months.

"You'll paying be advertising to yourself."

Quote
3. Companions, solely provides advertising and marketing service to private (independent) companions who wish to advertise their services on our online brochure, we are not escorts.

"We can't do search and replace properly from the site we stole this off."

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4. Companions, does not accept any liability or responsibility when should your advertisement on the online brochure fail to achieve a response.
 

"Obviously given that you're advertising to yourself, there won't be a response."

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6. The service we provide starts when your advertisement is published on Companions web site, therefore we cannot offer you the right to cancel "cooling-off period".

"But once we have your money, it's ours, so tough luck, sucker!"

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13. This agreement represents the entire agreement between the two parties...

"Everything we tell you about being an agency and we have millions of women begging to pay you is a lie."

Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: yianni on 07 October 2009, 02:19:30 pm
hi my name is yianni am trying to become an escort but i found it dificult for the scumagencies.....do anybody no about 7thHEAVEN agency... are they real?they even use a landline 02080902798...is the last agency pls answer me before i give my money.....pls help me.
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: Fallingstar on 07 October 2009, 02:58:28 pm
If they are asking you for money to go on their books then yes they are a scam. Read all the info on SAAFE about scam agencies and dont hand over your money to any set up claming to be an agency,you will lose it and you wont get any work.
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: brandy@saafe on 07 October 2009, 03:41:25 pm
hi my name is yianni am trying to become an escort but i found it dificult for the scumagencies.....do anybody no about 7thHEAVEN agency... are they real?they even use a landline 02080902798...is the last agency pls answer me before i give my money.....pls help me

Have you even bothered to read this thread before asking your question??

This is the point I'm making. Ani-Mae took the time and effort to start this thread a year ago, it's been sticky for nearly a year and even with recent posts, nobody bothers to read it. My sympathy is waning for those who come on to this thread in particular and say I've lost my money.

Take some time out and read the  thread!!

And yianni, stop posting your bloody number on every post you make. Nobody on this forum is going to be calling you. Why on earth would we?
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: xw5 on 07 October 2009, 04:30:59 pm
I think they're saying that's the number for the 'agency', i.e. it's a London landline rather than the 0844-ones used by the Spanish scammers.

Everything else I agree with.

Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: chocaluvva1 on 07 October 2009, 05:42:34 pm
Hi All,
First off thank you for the wealth of advice offered here....thank goodness I found you, as I almost joined what is now looking very much a scam site...and parting with 300 quid!
I'm a straight male looking to enter the world of escorting...yes I know, another one looking for that dream :))
The consensus here is that I should give up, and now I can see why you're saying that lol, but I'd like to explore further before totally throwing in the towel!!!
I've looked around google (entering "London male escorts" and other combinations) and have found the following sites....has anyone any knowledge/opinion or heard anything about them??
Some of these look to be just ads sites, but the top few seems most plausible??....but ANY advice greatly appreciated!!!!!!....

www.extrapillow.com
www.absolute-male-escorts.com
www.londonmale.com
www.eveningencounters.com
www.partneryou.com

Yours gratefully,
Tony :)
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: chocaluvva1 on 07 October 2009, 06:21:37 pm
Hi
sorry to be a pain and post twice in a row!!!! Ive just found:
www.meninthecity.co.uk
Anyone offer any advice please...seems legit???

Thanks,
Tony
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: chocaluvva1 on 07 October 2009, 07:00:46 pm
HI
Ive just this min received an email from crimsdating ...saying they have a 'definite' booking for me (odd as they have no photos of me!!!)....but need 90 quid in CASH before hand....what a shame! lol
Just thought I'd share....
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: xw5 on 08 October 2009, 12:05:41 pm
Some of these look to be just ads sites, but the top few seems most plausible??....but ANY advice greatly appreciated!!!!!!....

www.extrapillow.com
www.absolute-male-escorts.com
www.londonmale.com
www.eveningencounters.com
www.partneryou.com

Don't diss ad sites, they are honest: pay them ?x a month, they'll show your ad to anyone who is looking. Congratulations, you've found four of them and only two scams.

extrapillow - ad site that wants to vet your incoming email?! Aimed primarily at male clients / female escorts and more expensive than...

AME - been around for years, their Google ranking varies depending on how naughty they've been with their search engine optimisation. Looks like they've been good recently. They've also added a 'straight male' section, but a look at the site / other ads should reveal what the real market is, though!

LondonMale - again not cheap, few escorts (the one I clicked on is actually based in Hungary?!)

EveningEncounters - scam.

PartnerYou - scam.

.. and from the other post:

MenInTheCity - gay agency / 'take anyone's money' ad site. About the same cost as AME.

But if you can't do sex with men (even just letting them go down on you) I wouldn't bother paying to advertise.
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: chocaluvva1 on 09 October 2009, 04:20:09 pm
Thanks very much for your comments...very much appreciated!!
Still not throwing in the towel just yet...I may give one of those sites a punt (pardon the pun :) ) although I wont expect much....people here, including yourself, know far more about this game than I do and opinion is not to bother, so I'm in no position to dispute that...
Ive also seen a site called escortguys...looks very good, and although they say they have straight guys there, it looks 99 percent gay!
...Could I let a guy go down on me??? Tough call, but possibly....for the right price lol..and even if so, I couldnt do anything else...not much call for just that I'd imagine lol!

Many thanks again,
Tony
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: cindy on 09 October 2009, 04:49:57 pm
It has all the classic hallmarks of a scam. Social companions, you have to log in to use it, promises of ?300 bookings for just chatting to clients. If they want money before a booking its a scam usually even if they dress it up as something else.
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: xw5 on 09 October 2009, 05:39:00 pm
although they say they have straight guys there, it looks 99 percent gay!

Unsurprising that - of the men using the leading sexual health service for male escorts in London, 98.5% had only male clients.

Quote
...Could I let a guy go down on me??? Tough call, but possibly....for the right price lol..and even if so, I couldnt do anything else...not much call for just that I'd imagine lol!

There is a definite niche market there.
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: chocaluvva1 on 10 October 2009, 12:01:02 am
Hi, and at the risk of sounding boring, many thanks for your informative replies to my queries!!
I never knew there was a niche market just for letting guys go down on oneself!!! I suppose id consider it- i am slightly bi-curious...slightly! Lol
so... If i am interested then how could i advetise such a
niche service, bearing inind that i cannot see myself offering more than
that, and wouldnt want to mislead anyone into thinking i offer everything....?
Any suggestions appreciated......
.....and many thanks again!!
Tony
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: cindy on 10 October 2009, 12:59:48 am
XW5 may be able to help with that. Or have a look on the main forum, im sure theres info on it. You could take a look at others websites on thier links page to see where they advertise in your area.
As far as a niche goes its possible but maybe you ought to explore this side of yourself to see if its for you. You could hire a male escort for example? It might save you from landing youself in a situation youre not sure about. Be prepared that your clients may be a lot older than you and you wont be attracted to all of them. Just a thought.
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: chocaluvva1 on 10 October 2009, 01:48:08 am
Thanks for your reply- ill definitely give your suggestion some thought...it had crossed my
mind. Ill have a look around for those links, thanks for the tip!
Im new at this side of things- escorting myself-although  i have had quite a few encounters with aw  and other wgs.
lol. Ill give some more thought...

Xw5... Could you help with where to advertise such a niche? Id rather not use aw ideally!!

Many thanks to you both- its good to know there are good, supportive people around ;)
tony
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: chocaluvva1 on 13 October 2009, 10:42:14 am
Hi,

Ive been looking around for any info on what we've been discussing here recently and I cannot find much, if anything, on how to go about offering such a niche service...I'd hate to mislead anyone into thinking that I'm offering the 'full package.'
...please can you offer me any places to look and how to go about it please?

Any advice much appreciated :)
Many Thanks,
Tony
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: amy on 14 October 2009, 04:54:43 pm
Hi,

Ive been looking around for any info on what we've been discussing here recently and I cannot find much, if anything, on how to go about offering such a niche service...I'd hate to mislead anyone into thinking that I'm offering the 'full package.'
...please can you offer me any places to look and how to go about it please?

Any advice much appreciated :)
Many Thanks,
Tony

Tony, the best thing to do if you want to ask a specific member a specific question is to use the PM system, rather than hijacking threads and risk dragging them so far off topic that new readers can't find the information they want. If you click on XW5's username next to his last post when you are logged in, you can send him a message  :).
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: Gingerlina on 29 October 2009, 03:53:08 pm
Hi guys!!
Can I say a big THANK YOU to this site and to all of you who have prevented me from parting with ?366!!! Basically my rent money! I was about to be scammed by adorabelles! They too promised me a dinner date but first I had to part with the initial ?366 registration fee before hand. I could hear the busy call centre in the back ground and the woman on the phone sold it to me in a very convincing way! I thought: "this can't be a scam for them to have such a busy call centre right?"..but it all seemed to good to be true. ?600 quid for a dinner date and no sex involved..I wish!! I asked to sign a contract which they said wasn't possible because it was all internet based! That made me think...I asked her myself about internet scams and she reassured me that they had been a rep. company of over four years. She said they wouldn't disppear and that they make their money from the commission from clients...but it's all talk without it being in writing it means nothing.I told her that this was my rent money and I was skint. How can they live with themselves! I think it's disgusting. I am glad I thought better of it and managed to find this site!
I am supposed to transfer the money tomorrow into some random barclays account and to get a receipt of the payment and that's my contract..yeah right. I am sure I will hear from her again when she sees I haven't made payment..her or one of her other ten colleges who kept badgering me..that's their commission badgering us for our "registration fee"!!

Thank you once again!  :)


Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: amy on 30 October 2009, 12:45:09 am
Hi guys!!
Can I say a big THANK YOU to this site and to all of you who have prevented me from parting with ?366!!! Basically my rent money! I was about to be scammed by adorabelles! They too promised me a dinner date but first I had to part with the initial ?366 registration fee before hand. I could hear the busy call centre in the back ground and the woman on the phone sold it to me in a very convincing way! I thought: "this can't be a scam for them to have such a busy call centre right?"..but it all seemed to good to be true. ?600 quid for a dinner date and no sex involved..I wish!! I asked to sign a contract which they said wasn't possible because it was all internet based! That made me think...I asked her myself about internet scams and she reassured me that they had been a rep. company of over four years. She said they wouldn't disppear and that they make their money from the commission from clients...but it's all talk without it being in writing it means nothing.I told her that this was my rent money and I was skint. How can they live with themselves! I think it's disgusting. I am glad I thought better of it and managed to find this site!
I am supposed to transfer the money tomorrow into some random barclays account and to get a receipt of the payment and that's my contract..yeah right. I am sure I will hear from her again when she sees I haven't made payment..her or one of her other ten colleges who kept badgering me..that's their commission badgering us for our "registration fee"!!

Thank you once again!  :)



I know we get this a lot, but the ones where people have seen SAAFE and kept their money always make me want to punch the air a bit  :D.

Well done Gingerlina and welcome to the forum. If you are still keen, have a read of the main site and for the rest, we're here to help! Most of us are independent, but there are some agency ladies on here if you decide that's still the way you want to go.
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: lucielu on 26 November 2009, 02:58:47 pm
Hi guys,

i just wanted to say thank you for your info, i nearly paid ?260 to evening encounters for no sex escorting because they told me it would be ?600 a nite. after reading this its obvious that was just too good to be true.

basically i just wanted to know if anyone had any advice about agencies that claim they are non sexual. ive read all the previous posts that say they dont exist, but if anyone does have any genuine websites i would appreciate it. im a student who is up to the max on the overdraft and just wanted to build my confidence a little before going the whole way so to speak. slightly nervous  :-\

thanks again  ;D x x x
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: lucielu on 26 November 2009, 03:12:46 pm
Sorry, i just found this website and wondered if anyone had any experience with it.
http://www.topkats.co.uk/

thanks x
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: amy on 26 November 2009, 03:31:19 pm
Sorry, i just found this website and wondered if anyone had any experience with it.
http://www.topkats.co.uk/

thanks x

The only experience anyone is likely to get with this one is the same as those of all the other people on this thread who have been daft enough to hand over money on the strength of a sales pitch - being made poorer very quickly.

Apart from the website being one of the worst I think I have ever seen (and in all honesty this looks like it could actually be a very, very bad attempt at a genuine operation by someone who would probably struggle to find their own arse in the dark with both hands and a torch), it is not only asking for money up front which as you should know from reading this site is a complete no-no, plus clients are expected to pay the 'agency' via Paypal at the time of booking which is unheard of - assuming hypothetically you would get any work (and I've just washed up on Scarborough beach in a conch shell) there is no way of knowing if you would ever get paid. Not only that, they are asking for an awful lot of personal information on the application, and I would be concerned as to where this was likely to end up.

PLEASE read the main site and the rest of this thread thoroughly. There is NO market for non-sexual escorting worth mentioning - no matter what the scammers tell you. Think about it - why would anyone pay hundreds of pounds to have dinner (or whatever) with a total stranger without even the promise of a shag afterwards, when they can get one of us normal prossies for half the price or less? It's just logic - I know it can go out of the window sometimes, but try to think about it objectively and it soon becomes clear how ridiculous the claims are.

Well done for not falling for the lies - please don't spoil it...
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: laura28 on 29 November 2009, 03:45:10 pm
I found this site a while ago and have been reading for a couple of weeks now.  I still havent taken the plunge and advertised as an escort as I still havent answered all of my questions! I did want to say thank you for this amazing site (I was surprised at how hard it was to find answers to my questions about becomeing an escort...until I found this site)  :D

My google searches always lead me to one of these scam sites and I have to say that had I not found and read this site before modelcouples contacted me (after filling in a form) I would most probably have parted with my money...a big thank you to everyone.

I allowed the lady on the phone to do her sales pitch, as many people have said, she was lovely and very convincing.  When she got to the part about payment I told her that I had done a lot of research on the internet and was very sceptical about handing over payment before meeting a client! Strangley enough, she didnt argue  ::)

THANKYOU xxx
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: cassie on 29 November 2009, 10:16:46 pm
Woohoo, welcome Laura 28.

It's great to hear that the site has saved another person from being scammed.

x
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: laura28 on 30 November 2009, 12:39:57 pm
Thank you Cassie,

Its scary how convincing they are !!!  They even left it a few days before ringing me and I am now guessing that this was intentional so that I would be thinking they are very busy and not desperate to take peoples money  ::)

She even took the first part of my postcode and then appeared to be tapping on  a keyboard, 'to see if there was any availability in my area' after a long chat she said 'well the good news is that we have a part time vacancy in your area' !

Thanks again to everyone who has taken the time to set up this site and also those who post messages of warnings and words of wisdom :-)
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: EmilyJones on 30 November 2009, 01:52:05 pm
She even took the first part of my postcode and then appeared to be tapping on  a keyboard, 'to see if there was any availability in my area' after a long chat she said 'well the good news is that we have a part time vacancy in your area' !

Wow! That's scary convincing stuff. There must be loads of money in this particular scam if unscrupulous people are putting so much effort into it. Ugh. I hate scammers. Lying and manipulating people in order to steal their money from them? Grr! They need to either get real jobs like the rest of us do, and see what it's like EARNING your money, or just go to prison and be done with it. Grr grr!
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: cassie on 30 November 2009, 04:10:44 pm
Thank you Cassie,

Its scary how convincing they are !!!  They even left it a few days before ringing me and I am now guessing that this was intentional so that I would be thinking they are very busy and not desperate to take peoples money  ::)

She even took the first part of my postcode and then appeared to be tapping on  a keyboard, 'to see if there was any availability in my area' after a long chat she said 'well the good news is that we have a part time vacancy in your area' !

Thanks again to everyone who has taken the time to set up this site and also those who post messages of warnings and words of wisdom :-)

That sounds just like the scam agency that nearly got me, she did the same with checking the area and lots of other checks, even taking a record of my interests and knowledge, where I had travelled to what kind of food I liked, etc. It was all so plausable and convincing until two days later she got back to me with a potential client for the next week, who wanted to see me for a social dinner date on the friday, followed by a social lunch on the saturday and if those went well personal time on saturday night - all without her, let alone the client having seen a pic of me! He was an italian business man in his mid 30s' and I would have earned ?2300 in two days, subject to them receiving my ?350 by Thursday. When I hesitated she told me that he often payed for the girl to saty with him on Sunday too and took her shopping.

By this time my head was rattling from side to side with alarm bells going and a neon sign flashing : Too good to be true!!!!

I have to admit to still being slightly tempted, but made one last attempt to find out something more about this  company before heading to the bank - and found Saafe!

So I too was a Saafe savee and know exactly how you feel Laura and I try to contribute to the site as a way of thanks, as well as it being fun to share stuff on here.
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: ICE T on 12 December 2009, 01:39:08 pm
Hi all!

I was thinking of registering with a few companion agencies over xmas to try and earn some extra cash! I registered with this agency http://www.companionwork.com/index-2.php

I received a call this morning from a lady named 'Zara'. She seemed nice enough, explained that minimum bookings were 4 hours and I would receive up to ?550. They even have a driver that picks you up!  I was told there was a very strong demand because of xmas functions etc, and living in London was a great location.

All I have to do is email some photos and write a small paragraph about myself, however there was a catch......

I need to pay an 'advertising fee' 24 hours before the booking, is this normal? Does anybody here work for Companion Work or know of this company?

Apologies if this has been asked before (I couldn't find anything relating to the company in the search)

Thanks in advance

Ice
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: amy on 12 December 2009, 02:11:44 pm
The fact that I sighed with resignation and moved your post to this thread should be enough for you ICE T (and it's well worth reading through it from the start), but if not, please read this (http://www.saafe.info/scam_agency.html) too.
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: girlnextdoor on 19 January 2010, 12:14:19 am
I applied for a companion agency called  International Companions
This is there webdsite http://www.internationalcompanionservices.com/index.html
They called me and they sound so real ..they asked for my photos and everything ..
They said they will book an appointment for me before i should pay the ?300 fee but then i have already paid for this orther agency called companion.me http://www.companions.me/feedback.html ?190 and they said the same thing but then called me saying the client cancelled his appointment for his birthday suprise party he had to go to and frm then never had from them again  :'( Money gone ...dat i even borrowed :(
But not sure weather to pay it or Not  on this one ..Real or Fake pliz help   :( dnt wnna make a wrong decission again  coz dont have money to just give away  :'(
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: amy on 19 January 2010, 12:21:38 am
http://www.saafe.info/scam_agency.html (http://www.saafe.info/scam_agency.html)
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: kimmy86 on 22 January 2010, 09:55:03 pm
I have looked on lots of different websites but have not come up with anything about workers.uk.com! Does anyone know if this agency is legit or not??  ???
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: amy on 22 January 2010, 11:57:21 pm
I have looked on lots of different websites but have not come up with anything about workers.uk.com! Does anyone know if this agency is legit or not??  ???

Scam. (http://www.saafe.info/scam_agency.html) They're being coy about the payments but it's all there in the terms and conditions, plus they tick every other box I can think of.
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: xw5 on 23 January 2010, 12:03:51 am
One of the we'll scam "bodyguards, chauffeurs & security guards" sites too.

I particularly like the bit about you 'forfeit any rights of charging back the Credit Card Company for whatever reason'.
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: kimmy86 on 23 January 2010, 07:30:28 pm
Like many others I think this 'company' is a scam but cant find any information on any blog sites about it. Has anyone had any dealings with this place?? Any info greatly appreciated.
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: amy on 23 January 2010, 07:37:09 pm
Kimmy, the post you made earlier was moved to this thread (as has this one) because the site is clearly a scam. Responses are above.
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: happy bunny on 04 March 2010, 02:41:29 pm
HI,
I have just been offered a 'Date'  and on going work but in return i have to pay 250 pounds for advertising :-*.The agency is called Delightful companions.Has anyone any experience with them? thanks alot. :-*
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: MissMillie on 04 March 2010, 03:25:44 pm
Hon, from my experience anyone/ or agency asking you for money is generally a scam and not worth bothering with... xx
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: xw5 on 04 March 2010, 05:32:35 pm
I have just been offered a 'Date'  and on going work but in return i have to pay 250 pounds for advertising :-*.The agency is called Delightful companions.Has anyone any experience with them? thanks alot. :-*

Complete scam. Some people have not been as wise as you were to ask first. As the money is paid, future bookings vanish and suddenly they're not so interested in talking to you.

Any 'agency' that wants money from you up front is a scam. Despite what the scammers say, there is no real market for straight male escorting or non-sexual escorting.
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: cindy on 07 March 2010, 02:09:06 am
Quite right too. If it sounds too good to be true then it usually is.  We are all mostly prozzies on here, if there was an easier way, dont you think we would be in there first, lolol?!
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: Reds on 08 March 2010, 12:42:10 am
I stumbled upon this site  http://www.annab.net/ wondered what people make of it? as ive been looking around but havent seen anything like it, i looked at the rates and they were astronomical :o sorry if being gullible but could you ever really expect to earn that much money from bookings?

Redsx
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: xw5 on 08 March 2010, 09:21:19 am
Not very often, I suspect.

From an owner's point of view,running an agency this way means you don't have to as much compared to running one for mere mortals. Getting say a third of 'a lot' may not happen very often, but that's ok.

From the staff's point of view, getting say two thirds of 'a lot' is going to happen far less frequently, and that's less ok, particularly as they don't want you working anywhere else.
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: Reds on 09 March 2010, 07:20:06 pm


hmmm yes see what your saying even if its genuine the bookings could be few and far between where you get one lump sum, it just seems like a hell of alot of money and my initial gut reaction was telling me this has got to be some sort of scam, but i guess there are agencys out there who do only operate in this way and cater for certain clientel although doubt theres many and bet their choosy as hell!!!
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: Anika Mae on 09 March 2010, 07:52:32 pm
I have a friend who used to be on the books of an agency with that kind of price scale, as well as requiring membership fees from clients. The agency fee was high so she didn't come away with much more than I do but she didn't want her pictures publicly viewable and she finds snobby clients easy to deal with. She only ever got one booking (for an hour, in Brussels, with a guy who made a deal for her to stay overnight without telling the agent). That might have just been because the agent wouldn't put her pictures up though and to be fair they weren't that good.
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: PaulS on 10 March 2010, 07:54:56 pm
Hi there.

I have been accepted work as a male companion with International Companion Services (ICS). I purely want to be a companion and have apparent work starting next week. I have read through some of the topics on here and am worried this may be a scam. They want ?299 from me on the day of my first client. Is this right and has anyone heard of this company?

Failing that, does anyone know of a genuine company?

Big thanks, Paul
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: amy on 10 March 2010, 08:01:47 pm
It was a toss-up which thread to bung this one in, but warning others of scams has to be paramount. Paul, I would also suggest you read this (http://www.saafe.info/main/index.php?topic=2214.0) and this (http://www.saafe.info/scam_agency.html), keep your money in your pocket and start picking your way back to the drawing board.
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: PaulS on 10 March 2010, 08:11:29 pm
Thanks for this. Thought it was a bit too good to be true!
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: PaulS on 10 March 2010, 08:28:23 pm
As this appears to be a scam, here's some more info. to warn other people!

I lost my job last week and advised ICS I would not be able to afford the 'registration fee' in full and asked if I could maybe pay as much as possible and then the rest after my first client - the person I was speaking to attitude changed straight away. Later that day a 'foreign' lady called me offering me two clients this week. I explained about thew problem meeting the fee and she offered me the chance to pay ?250 upfront and ?49 after my first client. This didn't seem much of a compromise to me.

I was offered a meeting with a 'mostly' English-speaking lady on the Monday and a Spanish lady on the Tuesday who spoke good English. I almost sold my laptop and iPod to raise the cash - so glad I haven't.

I have emailed them now and said I believe they may be a scam and withdraw my 'application'. Their website is as follows:

http://internationalcompanionservices.com/index.html

Would be interested to see if anyone else has heard of or had dealings with this company.
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: ray on 18 May 2010, 02:13:44 pm
Hi all, I am new here and have recentl given my details to a company that claims to do companionship only, they are called www.neverbelonely.com , I was wondering if anyone has come accross them and are they to be trusted as they want ?350 for advertising they say but when I said no they said they could reduce it to ?150. I havent paid them yet still undecided.

please can anyone help.

kind regards

ray
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: amy on 18 May 2010, 02:21:34 pm
Hi Ray, and thanks for allowing me to bump one of our enduring favourite threads back to the front page. Please read this (http://www.saafe.info/scam_agency.html), this (http://www.saafe.info/main/index.php?topic=2731.0), and also this (http://www.saafe.info/main/index.php?topic=2214.0).
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: spyder_steve on 23 August 2010, 04:32:23 pm
Read a few posts on here but want to be a little more specific on this case.
I've registered my interest with an escort agency (approx a week ago): Decadent Dating
they've sent me a text message:

Hi its <name> from decadent dating to let you know we have a secured booking for you on <date> we have emailed full details of this to the email address you gave to us when you registered. please also check your spam folder. Please can you let us know asap if you can do this. Thanks again <name>

Checked my mail and this is what i got:
Good Morning,

Thank you for recently submitting your application to Decadent Dating as a professional Male Escort. We have gone through your application and have found that we will be able to match you immediately with a number of our clients and feel we would be able to supply you with a decent level of work, i.e. between 6 and 8 bookings per month.


We have already secured a guaranteed booking for you and it will take place on Thursday 26/08/10. It will be in the region that you specified in your application and the booking will begin at approximately 9 pm. If this booking goes well she also wishes to book you for the following week too. It will be a hotel based booking and she is a regular client of ours who has used our service a number of times in the past. She is in her late twenties and has requested a three hour booking with someone new on our books. We have recommended you for this booking. We try and get everyone on our books a booking in the first instance as this is the only way we have of ascertaining whether or not you will be suitable for the role of a Male Escort. Your payment for the evening will be a minimum of 360 pounds. This amount will be paid to you in cash(all your payments will be cash) at the beginning of the booking and the client will pay for any expenses incurred. The client will contact you prior to the booking to discuss her requirements for the evening, these will be what you should wear and where and what the booking will consist of, e.g. dinner, drinks etc. and of course which hotel to meet in. In the event the booking goes over the three hour period we ask that you continue to charge at 120 pounds per hour. Please note there is no obligation on either party for anything other than a social booking to take place.


In order to accept this booking and to become active on our system we need to hold a deposit from you which equates to you first three commission payments. Therefore you will need to make a payment of 150 pounds to our bank account. This can be done at any HSBC Bank. The details are as follows. Account Name: L.L.S. Account Number: 54304969 Sort Code: 40-47-31. Please use your name as reference when you make this payment. This can be done across the counter by cash or by online banking.(Sorry no cheques will be accepted) Once you make payment please text confirmation to 07624819012 quoting your name and the reference at the top of this page.

We ask for these commission payments in advance from you as a commitment on your part so that we know you will actually turn up at the booking and are completely serious about joining us and becoming a professional Male Escort. Usually when people make a financial commitment like this they will honour it. The last thing we want to happen is for a client to be left on her own without the escort turning up, this would reflect very badly on us and we would probably lose the client for good which is something we cannot afford to happen. We get a lot of people who claim they want to do this work but unfortunately we have found in the past that sometimes this is not always the case. We also quite regularly get other Escort Agencies pretending to be escorts so they can sabotage our bookings that is why we have to have this upfront component. Please Note. This is not a registration fee but a commission deposit therefore you will not lose this money as it will be used as commission for bookings completed, if bookings do not take place for any reason whatsoever and you want your deposit returned we will honour this request.

Once we receive payment we will then start the activation process and assign the booking to you. Once payment is received both we and the client will contact you with all relevant information pertaining to the booking. This payment needs to be made as soon as possible. So that we can assign the booking to you.


If you have any other queries please feel free to call us on 0871-<number> text us on <same as text msg> or email us on info@decadent-dating.co.uk and we can answer any questions that you may have.

I look forward to speaking and working with you very soon.

Best Regards


I've tried to research this company but cant find any comments on it, seems a bit steep to charge that much that quick, and a person wanting a newbie aswell sounded a bit strange.
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: casey_kisses on 23 August 2010, 04:43:20 pm
Please just search 'male escort' in the search box...

xx
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: Lucy Chambers on 23 August 2010, 05:03:03 pm
or in this case have a look four threads down, Male escorting- the scammers favourite myth.
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: xw5 on 23 August 2010, 05:26:19 pm
Yep, asking for money upfront before you have cash in your hand from a client is the giveaway that Decadent Dating is a scam.

If you paid up, you would be told that the 'client' had just been abducted by aliens or some similar lie, but that there be lots more work coming real soon now... just wait for their call. Then they don't answer when you ring / email them because they've got your money.

Congratulations on not falling for it. The bad news is that unless you're willing to have sex with men, scams are basically all there is: it's vastly easier to find optimistic straight men than find them female clients.
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: seaside arnie on 06 September 2010, 03:47:20 pm
Can anyone give me some guidance.
I have accepted a job through Ideal Escorts.
Received an e-mail booking mr from the client.
I have been sent a cheque for mor than my services.
And then asked to split the balance in half and send it through Western Union to 2 different people in Spain.
Is this a fraud?

seaside arnie
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: amy on 06 September 2010, 04:15:17 pm
It's a scam, as are Ideal Escorts. The overpayment scam is extremely common, and you can read more about it here (http://www.saafe.info/main/index.php?topic=385.0) and here (http://www.saafe.info/scam_agency.html).

If you are a straight man hoping to escort women, you would also do well to read this (http://www.saafe.info/main/index.php?topic=2214.0). And start working on your Plan B.
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: casey_kisses on 06 September 2010, 06:31:33 pm
And start working on your Plan B.

LOL Amy you crack me up!

xx
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: HBC-FAN-JBK on 06 September 2010, 08:49:02 pm
Yeah. I spent at least an hour writing that post and was quite pleased with it until I thought about what a tiny proportion of people would find it before handing their money over. It's depressing.

Hi i just really want to thankyou you may say only a small proportion will see but i was unsure about when i got a call off a 'socail escorting agency' asking if i would complete an application and i applied to a couple intentionally to compare to see if they all asked for similar requirements and right in the middle of a call from one of them an hour ago i thought is it a scam? so i asked how can he ensure me it's not a scam and I'm not just going to lose my mine, unlike the previous escorting agencies who checked for clients while u was on the phone to them he turned round and said oh I'll call u back in 10-15 Min's when I've ran my details through the computer but he didn't call back and i think it's cus i asked that question he knew I'd clock on, so then i researched and found this and I'm pleased to say I've not been conned!

So thankyou so very much you've been very helpful to me cus I'm very naive!
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: lady2010 on 22 October 2010, 08:04:15 pm
hi there

i went through exactly the same thing, i  was asked for ?310 for a years registration fee, and was told about a booking with a guy from the states that was here in town. this happened three years ago now, little did i know the con artists had actually made money out of me, not only that, but conned me also.  i was really gutted and disappointed that this actually happened to me, as i was really stupid and vulnerable at the time, as i'd split up with my boyfriend. i then tried to see if there was anyway i could get my money back, but it was looking doubtful. i sent a few letters by special delivery to two Escortopia company addresses. And last year a guy contacted me and i spoke to him, as Escortopia website was actually a site that belonged to him. So he said that he would contact Escortopia himelf via email and tell them whats going on, and that i would take legal action. But i think he said all this to cover his own back. I didn't hear from him again which i thought was abit suss, i also tried to contact Escortopia myself on the 0870 number, which happened to be based in Spain somewhere, well that number had coincedently discontinued. Needless to say i was just really disgusted and appalled that these fakists could take a person's money just like that and con you! To this day i curse them for doing this to me, and hope one day whoever these people were get there comuppence as i really could have done with my ?310 back. I even told my local Police about Escoropia and an officer found someone writing about them stating they were conned.
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: SuffolkTradingStandards on 24 November 2010, 10:49:30 am
Hi,

Suffolk Trading Standards are investigating several advance fee fraud escort agencies and we want people that have been victims of these sites to come forward and respond to your survey where they can register their complaint.

Here is a list of the businesses we're investigating:
 
Adorabelles
 Beautiful Adults
 
Candy Escorts
 Companion Fever
 
Companion Work
 Delightful Stars
 
EscortOpia
 European Escorts
 
Evening Encounters
 Graceful Partners
 
Lovely Liasons
 Manstrokewoman
 
Model Couples
 Partner You
 
Holding Hands
 Diamond Companions
 
Date Angels
 Delightful Companion
 
Select Media Ltd
 Mayfair Marketing Ltd
 
Evolution Business Associates Ltd
 Real Promotions Ltd
 
Marketing and Promotions Ltd
 Anvil Media Ltd
 
Express Media Ltd
 Direct Media Ltd
 
Greenway Marketing Ltd
 Blue Media Ltd
 
If you have been a victim of any of these sites visit: http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/SC5YYN2 to let us know about what happened to you.
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: Sleeping Admin on 24 November 2010, 03:52:52 pm
Hi,

Suffolk Trading Standards are investigating several advance fee fraud escort agencies and we want people that have been victims of these sites to come forward and respond to your survey where they can register their complaint.

Here is a list of the businesses we're investigating:
 
Adorabelles
 Beautiful Adults
 
Candy Escorts
 Companion Fever
 
Companion Work
 Delightful Stars
 
EscortOpia
 European Escorts
 
Evening Encounters
 Graceful Partners
 
Lovely Liasons
 Manstrokewoman
 
Model Couples
 Partner You
 
Holding Hands
 Diamond Companions
 
Date Angels
 Delightful Companion
 
Select Media Ltd
 Mayfair Marketing Ltd
 
Evolution Business Associates Ltd
 Real Promotions Ltd
 
Marketing and Promotions Ltd
 Anvil Media Ltd
 
Express Media Ltd
 Direct Media Ltd
 
Greenway Marketing Ltd
 Blue Media Ltd
 
If you have been a victim of any of these sites visit: http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/SC5YYN2 to let us know about what happened to you.

Thank you for posting this and taking forward investigations into these scams.

For further info, people can read about Operation Troy on the Suffolk County Council website at:

http://www.suffolk.gov.uk/BusinessAndConsumer/TradingStandards/latestnews.htm
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: Chaddy-d-daddy on 18 December 2010, 08:56:02 pm
Hi guys I'm new to all of this, I'm glad that I researched this don't know if you guys have covered this company but I really need your help. (Elite services 4u) any1 know anything about this??
Love this site wicked. Please let me know. 
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: amy on 19 December 2010, 02:36:40 am
Well I couldn't find them even with Google but the same rules always apply:

Are they asking you for cash upfront before you have done any work?
Are they telling you that they have lots of work for you, despite having never seen or met you?
Are you a straight male, or looking to do 'social only' work?

Then it's a scam. Article here (http://www.saafe.info/scam_agency.html) (or you could read this thread).
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: Chaddy-d-daddy on 19 December 2010, 02:54:51 pm
Why is it such a competitive market? Iv looked at there website  (http://www.eliteservices4u.co.uk/) the agent Sara did say when the booking is confirmed then I make payment. I guess that still could be a scam.... All I wanna do is make abit of extra cash!!
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: amy on 19 December 2010, 03:21:58 pm
It's not a competitive market as such, because as there are no female clients to speak of there is no market.

Unfortunately this doesn't mean there aren't a zillion or so hopeful, deluded straight men who think that because female prostitutes prosper there will be an equivalent for them, and the scammers who want your money are very well aware of this which is why they are currently pandering to your every word and will continue to do so until they get their hands on your cash and your 'client' (who will be a rich foreign lady travelling on business and wants to book you for three hours and go out for dinner yaddah yaddah yaddah) gets the flu and cancels. Believe me, we've all been here before.

Please read the Straight Male thread above where I have moved the rest of your posts.
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: xw5 on 19 December 2010, 05:21:02 pm
Yes, just because the people who want your money say it is 'confirmed' doesn't mean it ever existed. If you want a laugh, ask why you cannot pay their fee after the booking has actually happened.

There is plenty of competition in this particular market, but only for victims.

If Amy couldn't find them on Google despite knowing the name, you might wonder how anyone can. At least this lot let you see victims' ads, but that's about the only nice thing I can spot.
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: Jules407 on 29 January 2011, 11:11:33 pm
Unique 121 are a complete SCAN do not waste your time and money they owe nme ?350.  DON'T WASTE YOUR MONEY AND TIME.
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: MelodyB on 14 March 2011, 07:00:32 pm
Hi, Just want to make sure I get this message out. Both The Select Service and Scarlet companions have scammed me out of cash. The usual scam and I feel soooo stoopid but I want to make sure non of you lose money to them. They are very good and tell you just what you want to hear. They tell you they have a job for you and you'll get paid ?400, you just need to pay them the reg fee (195). After you do this the job gets canceled and they stop replying to emails of phone calls.

Stay safe
x
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: Ravi on 21 March 2011, 12:08:57 pm
Hi
I'm Ravi from Hyderabad, India. I want to work as a Male escort. Recently i was cheated by Saniya Friends & Services. Beware of that Agency. Suggest Genuine Escort agencies in India. Contact me at gvemuri@ymail.com.


Regards,
Ravi Kanth
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: LizzieG on 24 March 2011, 10:08:55 am
Hi there i'm a new member and came on with the sole reason to warn everyone not to have dealings with Perfect Company www.perfect-company.com. I checked them out before hand but found no bad press. I feel like naive idiot now but hopefully my mistake will prevent others from making the same. I spoke to a girl, Sophie Williams, on a few occasions and in length and so decided to join . I paid the ?290 joining fee and within a couple of days had an 'executive client' who wanted to book me. I was then informed i had to pay ?3000 to join the so called 'executive listings' if my meeting with 'Adam' could take place. I refused and over the course of the next couple of days the fee miraculously went from 3000 to 1500 to 700. They also refused to take a post payment once my date with 'Adam' had taken place. The whole thing just screams SCAM so please do not touch them with a barge pole!
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: EmilyJones on 24 March 2011, 11:08:42 am
Just a general note (especially as that site appears to be long vanished now - but there will be others doing the same scam very soon, I expect), as it is currently understood by any and all within the sex industry, there is almost zero market for non-sexual escorting.

The reason for this is as follows: Any client can pay any amount from about ?100 upwards (sometimes even less) to receive quality companionship with sex included. He can also often spend a little discounted-rate time with an escort if he wants to socialise but does not want sex. Even if he chooses the second option, with an escort he'll always have the option open to pay more and receive sexual services if he changes his mind. There is, therefore, really no reason for anyone to pay money to spend time with someone who will not ever have sex with them (outside of very rare particular arrangements that certain individuals may have). There is certainly not a huge industry around non-sexual companionship because there's no decent money to be made from it.

I'm sorry you lost money, LizzieG - though if you paid by credit card, you might be able to claim it back? - and I'm not even sure this particular "agency" was a non-sexual one since their site has disappeared. But it's a common scam and for the benefit of anyone else who skims this thread, I wanted to explain just why nobody should ever pay money to join an agency that promises things which are impossibly unlikely.

Do check out http://www.saafe.info (the main site here) for further information if you decide to pursue sex work seriously, and if not, good luck with any other ventures. :)
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: amy on 24 March 2011, 11:41:00 am
Just a general note (especially as that site appears to be long vanished now - but there will be others doing the same scam very soon, I expect), as it is currently understood by any and all within the sex industry, there is almost zero market for non-sexual escorting.

[...]I'm sorry you lost money, LizzieG - though if you paid by credit card, you might be able to claim it back? - and I'm not even sure this particular "agency" was a non-sexual one since their site has disappeared. But it's a common scam and for the benefit of anyone else who skims this thread, I wanted to explain just why nobody should ever pay money to join an agency that promises things which are impossibly unlikely.

Er, Lizzie's link works fine for me ???. It's an obvious (when you've seen this many of them) scam site which does claim to be non-sexual escorting, has the usual non-geographic phone number, no information for clients but tons for would-be 'escorts' etc etc. Have merged with the main thread and moved it here where hopefully more people might find it, since we seem to be getting a lot of these at the moment :).
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: EmilyJones on 24 March 2011, 02:28:26 pm
You're right, I can see it now! And it's very shoddy, so I wish I hadn't. :P
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: xw5 on 24 March 2011, 04:39:51 pm
I checked them out before hand but found no bad press.

There is an endless stream of new scams. They typically do one advertising campaign, get one set of victims, and start again with another name and website. Sometimes, they get the same victims more than once, but fortunately you have now realised that if they want any money upfront, they're a scam.

I paid the ?290 joining fee .. I was then informed I had to pay ?3000 to join the so called 'executive listings' if my meeting with 'Adam' could take place.

Gosh, people are getting greedy.
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: Dionne on 24 March 2011, 06:17:46 pm
Amanda that sounds like a scam!!! Do not pay them any amount of money under any circumstances! Xx
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: sarahlpool on 13 May 2011, 04:06:50 pm
Hay can some one please help me with this problem then.

I joined a non sexual agencey I paid a market charge and they asked for more money. In total I have given them under four thousand pound and have not been on one date. Not to mention I now have no money!

I am at a loss as to what to do. Please help anyone!!!
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: xw5 on 13 May 2011, 04:13:08 pm
You have been completely scammed.

There is no real market for non-sexual escorting, no matter what the scum after your money say. No real agency (in any field) will take money off you up front - they are supposed to make their money from finding you work.

You have probably lost the money, but see http://www.saafe.info/main/index.php?topic=2946 (http://www.saafe.info/main/index.php?topic=2946)
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: sarahlpool on 14 May 2011, 01:19:49 pm
Hi

That was what I was told about this so called 'Adam' I feel ashamed to say this but I did give them money. I have spoken to a legal rep and they think I can clam back the money as they are a scam company.

I just hope that I can get my money back!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: xw5 on 14 May 2011, 02:10:29 pm
Depends on how you paid. If it was cash into an account, you are probably stuffed. The scams don't like being paid by credit card for a reason.

Typically there are also some terms and conditions which are rather more honest (if you know what they are saying) than the nice people on the phone. So they say 'no guarantees of any thing ans, oh, only you can see your ad, no refunds'.

It doesn't help that one major bunch are based in Spain, so out of effective reach of UK courts.
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: niallator21 on 25 July 2011, 07:29:07 pm
hi,

i'm a bisexual man who wants to take a career in becoming a male escort/companion. what sites would recommend to use which are actually real and the jobs exist. i've already been conned out of ?277  >:( by true companions therefore im a bit iffy about applying online.  ???

many thanks

Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: xw5 on 25 July 2011, 07:58:07 pm
Someone not on a mobile may add this to one of a couple of existing thread, but the basic reply is that it is a good job you're bisexual because the vast majority of clients for male escorts are male and looking to be sexual with you.

There are some real agencies for the gay market - see the gay media for ads etc - but the majority of male escorts are independent. AW is better than its official gay equivalent, but you will probably be swamped in the search results by optimistic straight men, so there are better alternatives.
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: amy on 25 July 2011, 08:15:33 pm
hi,

i'm a bisexual man who wants to take a career in becoming a male escort/companion. what sites would recommend to use which are actually real and the jobs exist. i've already been conned out of ?277  >:( by true companions therefore im a bit iffy about applying online.  ???

many thanks



I've added to this thread purely because you are bi - do be aware that you are never likely to get a female client, or at least not more than one in every thousand or so. Have a read through to find out why you should never give anybody any money before you have done the work to earn it. This (http://www.saafe.info/main/index.php?topic=1242.0) is where your post would have ended up otherwise.

As far as advertising goes, as Ian says have a look through the gay media and try a (free) profile on AW. The articles on the main SAAFE site (http://www.saafe.info) are fairly gender-neutral and cover all sorts of things like personal safety and security, ways of working, health, tax and whatnot.
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: niallator21 on 26 July 2011, 06:59:48 pm
hi,

has anyone heard of this company No92 escorts? http://www.no92escorts.co.uk/

any information on this will be greatfully appreciated i.e. is it trust worthy or a con?

many thanks
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: Cat_BBW on 26 July 2011, 07:02:13 pm
If they're asking you to pay upfront, it's a con.
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: niallator21 on 26 July 2011, 07:09:15 pm
thank you yeah i got scammed out of ?277 from true companions was not impressed only read that it was a scam after paying the money  :-[ worst thing was i persuaded my friend to do it with me lol
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: amy on 26 July 2011, 07:09:30 pm
Complete bollocks, and merged accordingly. To the OP, can I just repeat yet again that you are not going to find an agency which will get you lots of work if you are a man. The only way you are going to make any money in the sex industry is by setting yourself to offer sexual services to men, and advertising in the appropriate media and you have already been told this more than once.

To save time, if you are going to post any more of these, can you add them straight to this thread instead of starting a new one, please. I'm busy at the moment and it's murder doing all this on a BlackBerry.
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: amy on 26 July 2011, 07:14:14 pm
thank you yeah i got scammed out of ?277 from true companions was not impressed only read that it was a scam after paying the money  :-[ worst thing was i persuaded my friend to do it with me lol

We do know this already, which makes it even more incredible that you're thinking of doing it again but that said, if you are given to paying large sums of money to random people you don't know anything about on the basis of a worthless, unsubstantiated sales pitch please do PM me and I'll send you my bank details. I'll be quite happy to talk a load of total crap about how male escorts are really in demand and get loads of work for a bare ?100  ;D.
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: niallator21 on 26 July 2011, 07:21:20 pm
ill try didnt realise this was on a big thread as far as i was aware you just ask questions and get replies. ok not to sure how to use this site but thank you. if i had a spare 100 trust me id throw ur way but unfortunately i don't taken into consideration thou ;)
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: amy on 26 July 2011, 07:25:45 pm
ill try didnt realise this was on a big thread as far as i was aware you just ask questions and get replies. ok not to sure how to use this site but thank you. if i had a spare 100 trust me id throw ur way but unfortunately i don't taken into consideration thou ;)

The trouble is, you're just asking the same question over and over again despite the fact that it has been answered more than adequately, and you have already received plenty of advice on how to begin working as an escort should you still wish to do so. And you are ignoring it.

If you want to start a thread about where to advertise to market yourself, or how to get started as an indie offering services to other men or even how to decide on pricing, what services you want to offer, how to organise registering as self-employed and all the rest of it we'll be happy to assist. But the agency cack is just going round and round in circles and will get neither you, nor the rest of us anywhere.
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: newbie89 on 26 July 2011, 10:10:21 pm
hello im new to the whole escourt thing and i NEEEEEEDDDD advice.

Firstly i want to be an a NON-SEXUAL ESCOURT so maybe more of a social compainion is there work out there and if so are there any agencies that are good?

secondly i applied to socialcompanions.com and have paid the admin fee but still waiting for a booking, it has only been a day but now i am thinking that it may be a scam, please get back to me with advice x[]
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: amy on 26 July 2011, 10:17:48 pm
I've moved your post into this thread, because as you are suspecting, you've been scammed.

Firstly i want to be an a NON-SEXUAL ESCOURT so maybe more of a social compainion is there work out there and if so are there any agencies that are good?

No there isn't. The market for people who spend social time only with clients and do not provide any sexual services at all is so miniscule as to be non-existant. Most of us have done the occasional social booking, but people do not pay to take strangers out to dinner or to the theatre often full stop, let alone when there isn't even a hand job on offer afterwards. Why would they?

secondly i applied to socialcompanions.com and have paid the admin fee but still waiting for a booking, it has only been a day but now i am thinking that it may be a scam, please get back to me with advice x[]

Any 'agency' or set up which wants you to give them money before you have done any work is a scam. Likewise anybody who tells you there is work for 'escorts' who do not have sex (of one kind or another) with clients - that is what virtually everybody on this forum does, and that's the only way you are going to earn money.

If you scroll up a bit, you'll see that you're not even the first one today, unfortunately.
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: Kayci on 30 July 2011, 08:19:29 pm
I have advised her to sign-up like i do many others because i think this is a good place to give and get information.  Would it be possible for you to point me in the direction of where to post this warning or could you move these posts to there?
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: amy on 30 July 2011, 09:08:23 pm
Will ask Mods and Admins and see what everybody thinks :). It's not the warning per se but the public naming that could be more trouble than it's worth, but if this is true I agree ladies should know about it.

I've moved the relevant posts out for now, and when we've decided the best way to approach this I'll put them back.
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: Kayci on 30 July 2011, 09:31:17 pm
Thanks Amy, i didnt mean any harm and i didnt know where to post i just thought would be ok to post and share information.

Kayci X x
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: sorenzo on 31 August 2011, 12:22:21 am
I've just been contacted by NBA international looking for me to sign with them. It all seems very legit, but I'm still dubious.
I've tried to do some reseach on them, but haven't found anything yet, which i assuming is good news.
It all sounds good, they seem quite reputable, haven't made any unreal promises, quite fortcoming when answering my questions and such. They are looking for a ?250 registration fee, doesn't seem like much if i do get a booking, but I'm still a bit worried.
Anybody here every dealt with them or know anything about them??

Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: Coty on 31 August 2011, 12:31:01 am
Except you won't get any bookings! Don't give them a penny!
I'll leave it to the others to explain...but just search this site for male escorts and you'll see!

Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: xw5 on 31 August 2011, 12:52:10 am
You're right to be worried. They want money upfront = they're a scam, it's as simple as that.

I don't know if you're a straight man, but if so, look for the 'the scammers favourite myth' thread too.
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: ladyjennaj on 01 September 2011, 12:54:41 am
You should never EVER pay money upfront for agencies, whether it be an escorting agency, a modelling agency or acting agency. It is the oldest scam in the book... ::)
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: mrsh on 07 September 2011, 09:30:27 pm
Hi,
I am thinking of becoming a companion escort and have found the above website www.premiersecrets.co.uk.  Has anyone experienced this agency as they have promised me a job on Friday.  They are asking for no upfront fees until my second and fifth booking.  After numerous emails to them, I am still waiting for my membership name and password details.  The website states that only members can view my details.  Any info would be greatly appreciated as to whether this is yet another scam agency or legitimate one - Mrs H
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: scottishgirl001 on 07 September 2011, 09:37:12 pm
sounds well dodgy .... :(
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: mrsh on 07 September 2011, 09:38:38 pm
Hi,

Thanks for your response.  Why do you suggest it sounds dodgy? Have you had dealings with this company?

Mrs h
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: Cat_BBW on 07 September 2011, 09:44:53 pm
It sounds dodgy as there's not a market for "companion" escorts. And they want you to pay more fees than the standard fee-per-booking.

Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: mrsh on 07 September 2011, 09:49:11 pm
Hi,

In response to your reply, the total fee payable after the fifth meeting is ?225.  They have sent me their bank details but the payee is not "Premier Secrets" but a person's name.   They had promised to email me the details of the client for my meeting on Friday but have yet to receive it, only their bank details.

Is anyone aware of this company?

Mrs h
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: Cat_BBW on 07 September 2011, 09:57:16 pm
Hi,

In response to your reply, the total fee payable after the fifth meeting is ?225.  They have sent me their bank details but the payee is not "Premier Secrets" but a person's name.   They had promised to email me the details of the client for my meeting on Friday but have yet to receive it, only their bank details.

Is anyone aware of this company?

Mrs h

It's a scam. They want you to pay an UPFRONT fee (albeit after the fifth booking) and they're offering no-sex meetings. You've only received THEIR bank details, not a booking or money from a client.

They want YOUR money. They'll take your money and you won't see any bookings or money.

It's a scam.
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: xw5 on 07 September 2011, 09:59:05 pm
What makes me go 'scam' is the lie that there's enough of a market for non-sexual escorting along with the 'only members can see' bit - real agencies have every incentive to get more and more views = more bookings.

My bet is that you would get five 'bookings' and be expected to pay up before any of them actually happen.

If I'm wrong and you only pay after you've got cash from five bookings then the person running it is very naive and/or stupid. But my secondary bet is that it would never happen, because you'd never get to five bookings.

Actually looking :) the terms and conditions are classic scam stuff, down to the 'we promise nothing, no refunds' bits.
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: naughtyjas on 07 September 2011, 11:25:02 pm
They are a scam because they don't have a section where clients can join to look at the service providers.  There is every tab aimed at the service providers, but no where for the actual clients to join.

Jas x
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: anjali on 08 September 2011, 08:12:09 am
I'm wondering if it will be along the lines of Fridays booking cancels...you get another but then its your second so you have to pay. Same old just trying a different way.

Looking at the site it appears the same as every other scam site listed in this thread where there is really no where for clients to book and everything about getting you signed up.

Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: JasonD on 02 October 2011, 09:13:24 am
I've just been contacted by NBA international looking for me to sign with them. It all seems very legit, but I'm still dubious.
I've tried to do some reseach on them, but haven't found anything yet, which i assuming is good news.
It all sounds good, they seem quite reputable, haven't made any unreal promises, quite fortcoming when answering my questions and such. They are looking for a ?250 registration fee, doesn't seem like much if i do get a booking, but I'm still a bit worried.
Anybody here every dealt with them or know anything about them??


They tried to suck me in by their agent who called herself 'Emma'. That was not her real name I am sure.
She wanted money upfront, must admit she did sound very professional and mature. Think they always are!
After she had my photos she said it takes a couple of days to see if I was to be accepted - 'which happened surprise, surprise'!.
Then she wanted money upfont, at that point we started arguing, because I know money upfront = scam.
I said I will pay her more money then the next person if only she would let me go on the first booking, she was not interested.
She said I had wasted her time, but she was prepered to waste my time, so I have NO sympathy for her.
She operates a closed office so noboby knows were she is.
The moral of this story is NEVER give money to anybody unlesss its of a reasonable amount or they have an office to walk into.
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: NEWGIRL on 02 October 2011, 02:05:31 pm
Hi,

In response to your reply, the total fee payable after the fifth meeting is ?225.  They have sent me their bank details but the payee is not "Premier Secrets" but a person's name.   They had promised to email me the details of the client for my meeting on Friday but have yet to receive it, only their bank details.

Is anyone aware of this company?

Mrs h

Just thought I would add another warning... I have very recently had dealings with Anabell from 'Premier Secrets'... And she is very, very convincing on the phone and has her spiel down to the very last detail... (i.e. It's a good idea to tip your driver... His name is Dave yada, yada!).

She finally mentioned that I would have to pay her before my first booking for 'insurance'. I asked her for a policy, and said that I would not be paying anything unless I have a copy in black and white of what I might be paying for. She said, 'Okay Gia, leave it with me... I'll get back to you this afternoon or tomorrow...'.

SHOCK HORROR I NEVER HEARD FROM HER AGAIN...

But seriously she had me going for a while! She's a very very very good con artist. Bloody conniving biyotch... Can't believe people in this world feel okay with manipulating and stealing from people.
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: julia-companion on 12 November 2011, 01:44:37 am
Hi there,

I just had a similar experience!!! with Amber Companions.co.uk

They asked me for ?200 registration fee. I asked them if I could pay once I had got the 1st job with them (as they told me it wouldn't be difficult to get from 2 to 5 bookings for week - minimum of 3 hrs/booking and earning ?100/hour) but they said no. They even suggested me to borrow money from a friend!  :-\

I was very innocent and knew nothing about this market at that time! So I was about to pay the ?200!
But the fact that their website mainly targets escorts and hardly targets clients made me suspicious!
I also tried to check the legality of the company, but I couldn't find anything under that name.
So, I decided emailing them asking them for the company's registration name/number and explained to them my concern.

A few days later, they obviously haven't got back to me! ... Despite they had told me there were already a few clients interested in booking me pretty much immediately!  ::)
I was a bit worried too as I had sent them my pics! 

After reading lots of information on your forum/site about non-sexual escorting and scams, I'm surprised none mentioned anything about Amber Companions!
Please be aware that it's a BIG SCAM!!!

Thank you for this website/forum! It's very helpful!

I know you've said about 1000 times that there's no market for non-sexual escorts, but I need an extra income right now and I wouldn't be able to do sex, just because the way I'm (No offenses, please!). So, if someone knows or have experience with a non-sexual escort agency, that it's not a scam, please let me know! I'm very much interested!!!
THANK YOU!  ;)

PS. I've consider creating a website to work independently, but I'm concerned that + people I know would see me. Whereas, I think that doing it by an agency may be a bit more discreet, not sure....  ???

Thank you!
Big Kiss to everyone!
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: amy on 12 November 2011, 02:45:19 am
Jh, I don't honestly know what you want us to do - you must have read virtually every thread on the forum on the subject (and the most recent one is here (http://www.saafe.info/main/index.php?topic=7058.0) in case you missed it) but you still seem to think there's a way to make money out of this no matter how many times you're told there isn't? We can't get you work doing something that nobody pays for, no matter how badly you want us to.

If you need extra money (and lots of people do at this time of year), the best I can suggest is trying the local high street to see if there's any Christmas temporary jobs left, hotels, bars, restaurants and so on - even on min wage you'll earn more than any non-sexual escort. Even many of the newer ladies who offer normal services are struggling, so if you really cannot face the idea that 'escorting' is basically prostitution, you may as well forget all about it. By all means build a website, but bearing in mind there aren't any directories to advertise it on (because there is no market) at least don't spend any money on it.
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: julia-companion on 15 November 2011, 06:00:04 pm
Hi Sr. Member,

Thank you very much for taking the time to write back to me and for your advice! It's very much appreciate it!
Also, congratulations for your forum! It's very helpful!!!

Well, I guess I had some hope that there was even a small market for non-sexual companions.
And I was hopping that someone could say something about her experience doing this work, working for a trustworthy agency, etc.... But it seems to be that there isn't a market for that and that all agencies out there are ONLY willing to take money from people who wants to join as a escort!  >:(

I, also, wanted to warn girls, maybe guys too, about AMBER COMPANIONS as another non-sexual agency SCAM!!! Because I read about other agencies, but apparently none mentions anything about Amber Companions, so it could be a new agency - or an old one with a new name!

Well, I'll have to find a different way to make some money...   ::)

Good Luck everyone!

And girls, please, be very careful with the scams! Read all you can about it in this forum (which is very helpful!) and be very suspicious when you talk to the agencies; they are very manipulative! ... And, if by ANY chance, someone finds a non-sexual escort agency, which is not a scam, please share it with the rest of us!  ;) hahaha.... xxxx
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: xw5 on 16 November 2011, 11:08:40 pm
The reason that there aren't any and won't be any genuine agencies is that it is vastly easier to make money off optimistic / gullible people who want to do non-sexual escorting than it is to find them work.

So people who want to run a genuine agency go for 'sexual with men' escorting.

There is a tiny market for non-sexual escorting but think of it from the client's perspective: would you book gorgeous Sexual Escort, typically for less than the scam agencies promise, take them to whatever event you have in mind and have the prospect of sex if you want it... or pay the same / more to someone who you won't have any chance of sex with?

Given the number of sexual escorts who are well-advertised and who'd be happy to do a non-sexual booking, there really isn't a niche for people who only want to do non-sexual and who can't - because of the tiny demand - afford to spend time and money advertising.
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: amy on 11 December 2011, 01:21:43 am
Giero, we already know that there are no legitimate agencies for non sexual escorts, because there is no market for non sexual escorting. Please do direct the people you know to this thread and the main SAAFE site (http://www.saafe.info) (where there is also an article on scam agencies), but do be aware that anyone you know who wants to become an escort will only get work if they are prepared to provide sexual services to men.

Meanwhile, please be aware that this forum is for sex workers only - it isn't clear whether this applies to you or not, but I'm suspecting not and if this is the case I would ask that you refrain from making further posts. I have removed the others as it is not necessary to reanimate ancient threads and post the same thing all over the board to make your point, especially when it has already been made by many others, many times before.
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: ambitiousvixen on 14 December 2011, 04:20:14 pm
Hey guys, I'm 18 and need want to make some extra cash so I decided I'd start escorting. I came across quiet a few websites but I settled on 'Amber Companions UK' don't know if anyone has heard of it but they ask for a ?249 registration fee upfront so they can advertise you on their website and they claim to be a 'companion only' agency and they gave me account details to pay the money into an account for them but it all seems a little shady to me. Can anyone shed any light on whether they are pretty legit or not? I need all the help I can get!!! I'm supposed to be going on a 'dinner date' on friday with a 30 year old business man.
get back to me asap guys!!!
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: improbablecats on 14 December 2011, 05:55:42 pm
Hey guys, I'm 18 and need want to make some extra cash so I decided I'd start escorting. I came across quiet a few websites but I settled on 'Amber Companions UK' don't know if anyone has heard of it but they ask for a ?249 registration fee upfront so they can advertise you on their website and they claim to be a 'companion only' agency and they gave me account details to pay the money into an account for them but it all seems a little shady to me. Can anyone shed any light on whether they are pretty legit or not? I need all the help I can get!!! I'm supposed to be going on a 'dinner date' on friday with a 30 year old business man.
get back to me asap guys!!!

This is almost 100% certain to be a scam. Don't send anyone any money.

There's a thread on spotting scams here: http://www.saafe.info/main/index.php?topic=385.0
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: xw5 on 14 December 2011, 05:59:46 pm
Merged :)

Read it all and you will see a) asking for money before you have cash in your hand from a client is a certain sign of a scam and b) the market for non-sexual escorting is so tiny that it cannot support any real agency.

On the plus side, you asked before handing over the money...
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: ladyjennaj on 14 December 2011, 10:48:36 pm
I still cannot believe that some agencies ask for money upfront - it's outrageous, and obviously a scam, but it's just so out of order. When I began escorting, I wouldn't have been able to afford a fee ::)
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: ambitiousvixen on 14 December 2011, 11:19:40 pm
thanks so much guys! I was cautious to hand money over because all they did is give bank details and it seemed weird. Also, on their website they have no address or anything and it's geared solely toward potential escorts and doesn't say anything to potential clients. so shady. I am new starting out so if anyone can offer me any moral support it would be much appreciated.
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: Anessa3 on 23 December 2011, 06:08:18 pm
Hello everybody!
I'm new in this website and wanted to have some informations about 'escorting'. I applied online on 'amber companion.co.uk' I've been contacted the next day by an agent 'lucie' they asked me for 200? to activate my profile. Then I asked them if it will be possible to pay half, she said to me as you are a very attractive lady I will discuss about it with my manager... They contacted me few hours later told me that it would be impossible but as I'm very attractive they can make it for 150?. I said fine. I ask them to send me a form, some indication detail, something a bit proffessional...i received an email with dear... Account number...and that's it!! I'm like, they already booked me 5 rendez-vous, tell me how easy it will be for me...yada yada yada....!! but still insist about the money... And could hardly answer my questions! It supposed to be non escorting but companion compagnie... The difference supposed to be no-sex meeting. But I already done some research and it seems very very....extremely rare to have nonsexual meeting and be paid 200?\h. Anyway i' curious (interested) about the 'escorting' in general... If someone could give some good  'pistes' it would be lovely!
Thank you for the forum which is very helpful!! :)

 



Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: NorthernIrishNatalie on 23 December 2011, 07:24:34 pm
Can't remember if I posted about this before or not but anyway. Anyone heard of Golden Knights agency. They scammed me of ?395 a few years ago. Natalie Xx
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: Oriana on 23 December 2011, 07:35:50 pm
Can't remember if I posted about this before or not but anyway. Anyone heard of Golden Knights agency. They scammed me of ?395 a few years ago. Natalie Xx

It is mentioned in this (http://www.saafe.info/main/index.php?topic=926.0) thread. They scam both men and women.
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: NorthernIrishNatalie on 23 December 2011, 07:42:49 pm
Oh ffs! There's no way of claiming back either I don't think. Unfortunately I was green then. Natalie Xx
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: River on 25 December 2011, 02:18:47 am
'amber companion.co.uk'
they can make it for 150?.
but still insist about the money...
It supposed to be non escorting but companion compagnie
Do not believe their lies.
Lucy is a con artist ripping you off or trying to.
If it's not true, She can sue me (but she won't  ;))

Lucy is evil scum.
You can quote me on that

Ps. Lucy is a bloke.
A 55  year old balding man with bad teeth
{probably}
Lucy sounds better though, which is why he says this shit.
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: EvaBeeva on 26 December 2011, 05:08:31 pm
I just wanted to say that I went to a legitimate non-sexual agency (I know as I know one of the girls who worked there)  I almost did as well only, due to the recession, the owner is now insisting that the girls pay her a ?200 'training' fee upfront.  Which is quite shocking when you realise how little money the girls make when they first start out. 

(I won't name and shame as they are legit)
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: xw5 on 26 December 2011, 11:08:07 pm
If they do this, they're a scam now, whatever they did in the past (and I doubt there was ever really much work).

Really legitimate agencies make all their money getting their people work. If they cannot find people enough work - for very understandable reasons in this case - why on earth pay them?

Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: mrrupert on 29 December 2011, 06:22:44 pm
I'd like to raise awareness of another escort agency scam that's started up. Adverts have been posted on Gumtree (Kent) under the banner 'Male Event Staff Wanted'. Knowing how these people operate, I responded to an ad and received the following reply:


Thank you for your interest in the Vacancy, as you can imagine we have had a great volume in response so places are going fast.

We are requesting males to accopmpany our female clients to various events and pay a minimum of ?85 per hour, they are only social meetings unless you and the client agree further.

Our clients are exclusive members to our Agency and many are business women from as far as the USA south Africa and France and require the company of well groomed charasmatic gentlemen.

We require a group of males in this area so would be interested to speak with you if this is something you could possibly do?

If so give me a call between offices hours to discuss further.

Many Thanks,
Nick Telford
Regional Director

On all products and services from ValentinoKnights Rest.Ltd the discreet confidentiallity between clients and customers in non prohibited outside of third party agreements. Request may be made from the employer to act impartial to all contact without consent from the customer for their discreet saftey, therfore supplying all confering to be made in private between both parties.


I've deleted the mobile phone number they gave me but edited nothing else. I could find nothing online about "ValentinoKnights Rest.Ltd" and doubt it's a Companies House business. During a phone call discovered this is an outfit taking the usual route of charging upfront fees from men with the assertion that there are many ladies waiting for their services, especially over the New Year! There is a scale of fees from ?150 upward, for which you are registered on a website. When asked for the details of this website they declined, saying it was a confidential site only accessible to clients. Yeah, right.

Submission of a photo is recommended for them to determine whether you are a suitable candidate (hah ha) and this is emailed to an 'Alan Valentino'.


Tiny edit by Emily: Fixed italics tags.
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: amy on 29 December 2011, 06:27:06 pm
As ever, anything asking for money upfront, claiming to have work which does not involve providing sexual services to men and the pitching to potential 'escorts' rather than clients is the cast iron proof (if the appalling spelling wasn't enough).

Mrrupert, if you were led to believe that there is any more than maybe one job every couple of years for a straight man wishing to sell sex to women (and about half that if you were looking for 'companionship' work only), you would also do well to read this thread (http://www.saafe.info/main/index.php?topic=1242.0) too.
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: Northeastchick on 11 January 2012, 11:22:54 pm
Hi everyone

I'm new to the whole escorting scene.

I have been talking to someone from
Escort jobs uk and they seem ligit ... Anyone else had any dealings with th
? Thy charge a fee of 200 start up fee for 12
Month.

They are a no extras company (no sexual contact)

Your opinions would be appreciated
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: Lady_Lust_XXX on 11 January 2012, 11:41:26 pm
Someone wiser and more experienced will be along soon but under no circumstances should you pay ANYTHING to an escort agency. 

Bide your time and you will get someone sensible along soon but DONT HAND OVER ANY MONEY TO ANYONE in the interim.
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: Liverbird on 11 January 2012, 11:54:19 pm
Hi  Northeastchick!

I'm not really qualified to give personal advice to you, but fortunately (for both of us!) It's all here on this 'bible' for wg's site!'
If you click on 'Search' at the top of the homepage and type in 'The big scam agency thread', you will find damn near everything you will need to know on this subject.
I think it's safe for me to tell you this much tho'... If the agency is asking you for money up front, it's a NO! Agencies will take a commission from the fee received for each client that you see. None should be charging you to join the agency itself, not one penny!
Take good care,

Wiley.xx
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: Northeastchick on 16 January 2012, 09:25:21 pm
Hey
I'm hoping you lovely people can help me.

I'm new to this whole scene - I'm thinking about signing up with an agency called crystal or escorts uk agency - has anyone heard of these ?? Would anyone suggest any other agency's - ones that don't necessarily advertise sex? I'm in the Newcastle area.

Any comments would be great!

Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: amy on 16 January 2012, 09:36:55 pm
Hey
I'm hoping you lovely people can help me.

I'm new to this whole scene - I'm thinking about signing up with an agency called crystal or escorts uk agency - has anyone heard of these ?? Would anyone suggest any other agency's - ones that don't necessarily advertise sex? I'm in the Newcastle area.

Any comments would be great!



Hi there and welcome to SAAFE :)

We don't rate or recommend specific agencies on here as we think they ought to pay for their advertising like everybody else has to (and as a general rule we don't really recommend agency work at all, as you're just paying somebody a chunk of your hard-earned to do what you can do just as well and more often than not better yourself) but there is an article on the main site (http://www.saafe.info) about finding a decent agency to employ if you're more comfortable with the idea when you're starting off (and see also here (http://www.saafe.info/main/index.php?topic=3422.0).

However, if you don't want to have sex with people to earn money there really aren't any legitimate operations, because there is no work or market for this to enable them to keep running. It doesn't matter where you look or what anybody running one of these supposed 'agencies' tells you, escorting is 99.9% about providing sexual services to men and if this isn't what you want or are prepared to do, you need to forget it altogether as it's a complete non-starter. There are scammers everywhere falling over themselves to tell you that there are clients everywhere who regularly spend hundreds of pounds just to take total strangers out for dinner and so on, but it's rubbish - they're easy to spot because they will want money from you before you earn it from doing any work, and this is because there isn't any work. Don't fall for it.
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: xw5 on 16 January 2012, 09:39:00 pm
There are several (ok, lots) of agencies with 'Crystal' in the title, but from the sound of it, you're talking about the one with the escortjobsuk.com domain.

Fortunately, you haven't paid them yet because as with any other agency wanting any money from you before you have cash in your hand from a client, they're a scam.

They're also lying: the market for non-sexual escorting is tiny, which is why the only way they can make any money is by scamming people.

Unfortunately, if you are willing to be sexual with men, Newcastle is somewhere with notoriously low prices (another reason why Crystal Escorts is lying - for a fraction of the money they're suggesting clients pay for a non-sexual escort, clients can get someone who will have sex with them...) That's not to say you couldn't make money, but it'll be harder than in many other places.
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: GlasgowGirlxx on 23 January 2012, 08:59:29 pm
I am so glad I just found and read through every single post on this thread...wasn't until I reached the end that I found information about the agency who have just contacted me today offering me work for non-sexual companionship... AMBERCOMPANIONS.CO.UK ... I explained that I would be looking to start working in March as I am 9 days away from giving birth and wanted to make some extra cash while I am on maternity.  I also explained that I didn't want it affecting my family life as I was in a strong, healthy relationship with a toddler and a newborn baby on the way and therefore sex was not something I wanted to be on offer.  I explained that I realised there was different types of companionship (which she agreed) and I wanted to look at this as a way of earning some extra cash to go on dates with businessmen looking for professional companions for their business events etc..."Emma" explained that was fine and they made it crystal clear to their clients that no sex was on offer.  She explained I would be paid in cash at the beginning of the date, an hourly sum of ?120 and a minimum date time of 3 hours.  She also explained she earned her money from a booking fee from the clients, not from my earnings.  She explained I had to commit to a minimum of 2 bookings per week in order for her to make her time and effort worthwhile.  At the end of the call, she explained the start-up fee of ?249, a one-off payment to set everything up/advertise etc.  After reading this thread, I wanted to check the website again to confirm the fact that their website was leaning more towards hiring escorts rather than getting the clients interested, only to find the website has disappeared!  I cannot believe it!  When you type in the website address, you are taken to another page that tells you the page is no longer available!  I was only just looking at it earlier today too!  I thought there was a fault with my internet but everything else is working fine!!  I have got as far as sending them my pics but that's it and that's as far as I'm going to go...thank you for saving me ?249, money I need for my imminent new arrival...can't believe another female would basically get an expectant mother to pay out this kind of money knowing it's actually a scam!!  I'm so so angry!  If I knew where to get her, I'd fly down to London and show her you don't mess with a pregnant mother!  Too many hormones flying around lol :) xx
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: Oriana on 23 January 2012, 09:17:56 pm
GlasgowGirlxx, the website of Ambercompanions.co.uk (http://www.ambercompanions.co.uk/) is still on. At least I can still see it. Anyway, I am so happy you didn't fall for a scam, pregnant or not it makes no difference to them. These people have no moral or consciense.  Money does not stink said Roman emperor Vespasian to public urinal tax.
Please calm down and give birth to a healthy baby.
If you still intend to put on stockings, please take a look at Pamfan (http://www.pamfan.com/) for pregnant and lactating WG. Good luck!

Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: xw5 on 23 January 2012, 09:27:28 pm
Sadly, I can see the scam site too.

Hooray for not paying them.
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: frank on 27 January 2012, 01:30:05 am
hi all, I was thinking of becoming a male escort and phoned an agencies add on a paper. Like I've read on many comments it sounds too good to be true. the agency is called Silent Partner. the web site is advertised as www.silentpartner.co     thats not a type error it is .co    They are looking for ?290 up front and have called be back to book me for 2 nights this weekend. this all happened today. They do have a web site here and the phone no.s match but are registered to a co. called telecommunications in london. Has anyone used silent partners escort agency for work or should I run a mile or at least insist on paying them on monday after meeting the clients. they prob say no but at least my money would still be in my pocket. Is this normal practice for an agency. They have text me a bank account to lodge the money to in the morning. all advice much appreciated. thanks a mil.
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: amy on 27 January 2012, 01:35:08 am
Frank, I have merged your thread in with this one since it specifically concerns scam agencies which this one is, as it has not only asked you to give them money before you have earned any from work they have found for you but they have apparently led you to believe that there is escort work available for straight men (which there is not).

I could just as easily have moved it into this thread (http://www.saafe.info/main/index.php?topic=1242.0) and I suggest you read them both.
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: denny on 08 February 2012, 07:11:21 pm
Hi i have been asked for 245 pounds to join an escort agency called NBAinternational, does anybody know of this company or are just scammers like the rest
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: amy on 08 February 2012, 07:17:22 pm
Hi i have been asked for 245 pounds to join an escort agency called NBAinternational, does anybody know of this company or are just scammers like the rest

Yes, they're a scam - anybody who wants you to give them money without them getting you any work first is likewise.

If you are a straight man hoping to escort women (and it isn't clear from your nick, so apologies if not) the only people who are going to claim there is work for you are scammers. Read this thread (http://www.saafe.info/main/index.php?topic=506.0) too.
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: lolaxzx on 21 February 2012, 06:36:29 pm
hi I have been looking into some escort recruitment and have had an agency offer me work. But then they say I have to pay 200 pound one off membership fee is this normal or a scam? I want to make money not give money out. Help!!!
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: Mellow on 21 February 2012, 06:45:50 pm
I'm sure there are threads about bogus/rip off agencies and someone else can tell you where they are but

golden rule - do not pay any money upfront to an agency - this will be a rip off
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: lolaxzx on 21 February 2012, 07:05:16 pm
thanx :)
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: xw5 on 21 February 2012, 07:12:51 pm
Merged into the main topic :)

As you can see, there are lots and lots of scams (at least two bunches of scammers are behind many of them - they just keep changing their name) but as she said, the test to see if it's a scam is very simple: if they want any money whatsoever (or for you to be naked never mind sexual) before you have cash in your hand from a client, it's a scam.

Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: Pammiewx on 20 March 2012, 10:26:53 am
Hi there!
My names pammie and I'm 29 I have looked into escorting for a long time now and have decided yes it's for me, it is the social side though not sexual side.
I have been contacted after sending an email by this company (Nba international) and its to advertise myself, I am a lesbian and I am wanting to go down the female escort route, just for females.
Has anyone else done this? I would love to go it alone and not have to use advertisers so any help with that would be hugely appreciated too, thanks loads in advance
:0) xxx
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: xw5 on 20 March 2012, 10:51:25 am
Hi. It's been long enough since we had a 'non-sexual escorting' query like this that I can't spot the big joined up thread on this to merge this one to it, but I am certain they will be a scam. The markets for non-sexual escorting and escorting women are too small to support any genuine agency: trying to do both would be commercial suicide. Real agencies make all their money finding people work, but this bunch will be wanting to charge you money, because it's the only way they'll make any.

You could try advertising in the lesbian media, but I suspect that will cost more than you make and most of the enquiries you will get will be from women asking how they can do escorting too.

Sorry. If you are happy being sexual on a webcam, you could make money.

Ah, the third listing on Google for 'nba international esorts' is the 'big scam agency thread' here. Yep, that would be ?250 you'd never see again.

Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: Pammiewx on 20 March 2012, 10:57:11 am
Hey
Thanks for reply I can't seem to reply eek
Yes I was thinking about possibly advertising in the lesbian magazines and actually is on par with the price of nba,
Urgh so don't send the money to them then...
Is there any help for me about getting into escorting on my own? I just seem to be at a dead end wherever I look :0(
So difficult and I'm really wanting to start up and get into this
X
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: Pammiewx on 20 March 2012, 10:58:36 am
Ahh found my post... Doh!
So as I've said in the other reply any help :0( I seem to be hitting brick walls all over the place :0(
X
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: xw5 on 20 March 2012, 11:09:05 am
Yes, searching for previous mentions of the scam meant I found this thread.

It's a bit like asking us to find you a unicorn and then being disappointed that we cannot! :) Some brick walls are there to stop people being hurt.

Many people would love there to be a larger market for non-sexual escorting and/or escorting women, but the reality is that both are tiny on their own and the combination of the two must be microscopically small.
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: Pammiewx on 20 March 2012, 11:15:39 am
Hey,
Thanks again for reply :0)
Yeah I can imagine its a niche market :0/ but I'm going to keep trying ;0) "I will find that unicorn" hehe.
Maybe just try and advertise privately aka magazines gay bars etc
I just wondered if anyone had come across escorts for females? Sexual and none sexual?
X
Thanks again
X
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: EmilyJones on 20 March 2012, 11:27:48 am
So as I've said in the other reply any help :0( I seem to be hitting brick walls all over the place :0(

Don't worry - the non-sexual escorting scam, often combined with the 'market your services to women' scam, is hugely popular and obviously very profitable for the scammers, so you're definitely not alone in wondering whether they're genuine or not. At least you had the smarts to come and ask here before you started shelling out cash for fruitless advertising!

This has been said many times in this thread but a reiteration is always handy: If someone is looking to pay for company, they can get companionship PLUS full sex (bloody hours of it, and all sorts of services!) for actually not that much money, considering. In parts of the UK, for example, clients can nip into a brothel or an indie escort's incall flat to have a half-hour shag for about ?40-60. Often, if they're nice and polite clients and the escort has some time to spare, the client is welcome to hang around having a cup of tea and chatting for extra time after the booking at no extra charge. So why would any client want to go spending money on a woman who makes it clear at the start that she's got no intention of ever touching him sexually?

Generally, men already have plenty of experience socialising with women who are not sexually available to them. They don't need to pay for that. :) And female clients, although a tiny market, are going to have the same attitude.

There are very few people out there who are so repulsive and have such hideous personalities that they have to pay someone to hang out with them. Most people have plenty of friends and do not, therefore, pay for social companionship. You can go to any bar and look at/chat to beautiful women for free. You can go on any dating or hookup site and go on awkward first dates for free, too, and you might even get laid for free at the end of it! That's why genuine, non-scam social escorting agencies don't exist. Sex is, frankly, too cheaply available to those who are happy to pay, and everyone already knows tons of people who don't wanna shag 'em.

The sex industry is VAST and there is money to be made although there are already a lot of very smart, industrious sex workers (and thousands more lazy and/or part-time sex workers, like me ;D) hoovering up the profits so there actually isn't a fortune to be made even if you do every sexual service in the world. Making money in this industry requires a lot of effort. It can definitely be done, but you need to be very good and there will be a lot of sex (whether in person, on cam or on the phone) involved. And there are barely any female clients. I hear lots of people talking about the one or two bookings they've done that involved a female client, but they are usually part of the couple and the bookings frequently involve the wife/girlfriend getting upset and/or angry, and I've never had a genuine woman call me (although we all get tons of fantasists pretending they have a hot bi girlfriend who wants to be 'surprised', of course). If anyone markets sexual services to women, I think they'd be lucky to get 5 female clients a year, judging from what I've seen and heard. Even 'straight male escorts' would need to suck some willy if they want to make a proper income.

Hope that makes it clear why you should never give money to anyone who says they'll line up clients who want to pay you to talk to them in a totally non-sexual way. :)
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: EvaBeeva on 21 March 2012, 11:47:18 am
I used to know a girl who only did girls.

She didn't make a huge amount and this was before the recession started.

I've noticed she's since stopped advertising in her usual places. 
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: Sensualtouch on 10 April 2012, 04:23:04 pm


.....www.selectcompanions.co.uk

They offer a travel companion service around uk and beyond. They seems ok until they mentioned if accepted which we highly think you will be ( they've nenpver seen a picture of me) a registration fee of ?250. Even as I write this email I'm thinking ummmmm a bit iffy.

Just wondered what others thought?

Sofia x
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: La-lique on 10 April 2012, 04:43:09 pm
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Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: lady c on 10 April 2012, 04:58:48 pm
its a scam they nearly had me and before i signed up i googled reviews and it said scam scam scam...be careful i emailed them telling them so but they never contacted me again ha.. mine was called crystal i think but u never know they might change their name often..
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: Sensualtouch on 10 April 2012, 05:07:38 pm
Thanks girls I thought as much I mean me pay to possibly get work it's not right she tried to justify it by saying if I worked for an agency they would take up to 30/40% of my earnings. I said I had not wish to work for an agency. Mainly because travel companion agencies don't really exist. I think they are just scammers. Thanks for the advice.

Sofia
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: tania marina on 15 April 2012, 07:12:38 pm
an agency asked me for a front fee 100 ? . it is insisting really to be paid in front and before the date. i dont know what to do. I am thinking it is a fraud but their is always what if? i dont know them.... any advice?
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: xw5 on 15 April 2012, 07:27:02 pm
Scam, along with every other 'agency' that wants any money whatsoever from you before you have cash in your hand from a client.

There's a thread here with loads more examples of them, let me see if I can find it...
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: cindygirl4real on 02 May 2012, 01:59:56 am
hello,
Please i am about to register in an escort agency, but i would like to confirm the name to know if they are scampers. ( SELECT COMPANIONS) that is the name of the escort agency. please can any one confirm for me if they are for real. thank you. :-\
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: cindygirl4real on 02 May 2012, 07:18:02 am
am still waiting for replies pleaseeeeeeee :(
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: janitor on 02 May 2012, 07:20:02 am
I have only had a quick look as I am on my way out, but look at it from a customer point of view for a minute:

Where are the staff so you can see who you want to book?
Where are the details/prices?

That alone screams scam.

If you sign up and they ask for many up front for ANY reason, no matter how legitimate sounding, you can kiss that money goodbye.
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: EmilyJones on 02 May 2012, 07:54:22 am
am still waiting for replies pleaseeeeeeee :(

I'm afraid your posts were made at 2am and 7am UK time, so there wouldn't have been many members about. Please be patient and allow at least 24 hours for responses; nobody is being paid to answer any questions here, we all contribute because we want to help so we may need a little time.

If you sign up and they ask for many up front for ANY reason, no matter how legitimate sounding, you can kiss that money goodbye.

This. Also, there's a main site article here: http://www.saafe.info/ (hover over "Information for Escorts" and look for the "Scam Agencies" article) which outlines all the main types of agency-related scams that you need to look out for.
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: xw5 on 02 May 2012, 08:07:19 am
am still waiting for replies pleaseeeeeeee :(

I know they're putting pressure on you to pay up, now - that's because, like every other 'agency' that wants money from you before you have cash in your hand from a client, they're a scam. You'll find other mentions of them in this thread.

See the non-existence of non-sexual escorting market if that's what they're telling you too.
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: Idiot99 on 04 May 2012, 07:03:45 pm
Select Companions UK. Have a suspicion that this is a scam. Asks for general details, Age, Height, Interests.  Then asks for photos and will survey clients. Get a call a day or so later from "Ellie" saying that 5 clients are interested. Asks for ?249 paid into either a LloydsTSB account or Nationwide.  Payment to be made to jobstoday.  States rates will be ?120 for minimum of 3 hours per client cash in hand and travel expenses up to 30 miles..  Then an email with a link to "your page" on their website. Then nothing.....
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: amy on 04 May 2012, 07:07:36 pm
Select Companions UK. Have a suspicion that this is a scam. Asks for general details, Age, Height, Interests.  Then asks for photos and will survey clients. Get a call a day or so later from "Ellie" saying that 5 clients are interested. Asks for ?249 paid into either a LloydsTSB account or Nationwide.  Payment to be made to jobstoday.  States rates will be ?120 for minimum of 3 hours per client cash in hand and travel expenses up to 30 miles..  Then an email with a link to "your page" on their website. Then nothing.....

Any site which asks for payment up front is a scam - the nuts and bolts are irrelevant. This one's been mentioned before, if memory serves - I believe they're one of the many 'but of course there's a market for straight male/social only escorts!' subgroup.
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: pevonia on 10 May 2012, 02:46:54 am
Hello everyone.  Can I first say how wonderful I felt when I accidently came across this site. I have been doing research into this industry and I am lost.
Can I be straight and honest.  I want to do companion escort  but without any sexual contact.  I enjoy speanding time with people and listening to people, solving problems, having a laugh and really creating a good atmosphere.I am aware it is important to have the man or woman feel very specia, this is my good points.  I am a very good listener and I have disclosure Scotland.  I am not sure where to start.  I live in Glasgow but must emphasise this would be a non-sexual companionship meetings, and need to feel I have went to a reputable company. .  Can you offer me any advice.  Does such worl exist.  I have a part time job worling in social services. and to be honest I would enjoy very much meeting either a man or woman for chats, theatre, meals etc.... I hope you can reassurre me, and point me in the right direction.  I livReagrds Pevonia
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: pevonia on 10 May 2012, 03:21:41 am
M any thanls for your honest opinion.

I must be quite nieve.  trying to earn some extra income .. Bacl to the grindstone

cheers
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: Lady_Lust_XXX on 03 June 2012, 11:55:36 am
Adorabelles
Beautiful Adults
Candy Escorts
Companion Fever
Companion Work
Delightful Stars
EscortOpia
European Escorts
Evening Encounters
Graceful Partners
Lovely Liasons
Manstrokewoman
Model Couples
Partner You
Holding Hands
Diamond Companions
Date Angels
Delightful Companion
Select Media Ltd
Mayfair Marketing Ltd
Evolution Business Associates Ltd
Real Promotions Ltd
Marketing and Promotions Ltd
Anvil Media Ltd
Express Media Ltd
Direct Media Ltd
Greenway Marketing Ltd
Blue Media Ltd

Don't fall for any of their lines 'pay upfront' ................ if they ask for this it is definitely a scam.
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: amy on 03 June 2012, 12:04:04 pm
'Listed' and 'being investigated' by whom, LL? Can you elaborate a bit - is this something to do with the Suffolk Trading Standards post above?
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: Lady_Lust_XXX on 03 June 2012, 12:26:29 pm
Yes Amy, thanks for joining up with other thread, did not see it.   :-[  Didn't want anyone to fall foul and lose money.
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: bigted on 07 June 2012, 02:32:37 pm

Hey. I signed up with ideal escorts and recently cancelled (male escort). They are still trying to get monthly membership payments and when I tried to contact them there was no response :FF. In my opinion they are complete frauds. Stay away.
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: Siren999 on 08 June 2012, 12:15:52 am
Mrs h...
I have had dealings with the company and I unfortunately spoke to someone who I took to be genuine and real. I was completely suckered in by her niceness and paid the fee. I have never receieved a booking and obviously lost my money. I think yourself and anyone else you may know of....or anyone else who has paid or been asked to pay, ralley together and get it dealt with. Enough is enough. And anyone else who is experiencing what I am will feel the same. Please email me direct ladies it's fairybabe004@hotmail.com
We will try as a group to put the pressure on and see where it gets us. I also think its worth bringing some of the scams to the surface using one front man and annonomous back up. Someone like watch dog or an ombudsman. Email me please.
X
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: Siren999 on 08 June 2012, 10:06:02 am
Please email me. This needs to be tackled! Read my first post. Time to organise something! Hope to hear from you guys soon x
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: amy on 08 June 2012, 10:34:56 am
Please email me. This needs to be tackled! Read my first post. Time to organise something! Hope to hear from you guys soon x

Siren, this is being tackled already by Suffolk Trading Standards (and quite possibly others), as you will see if you read a couple of posts a little way up the thread, originating from this request for information here (http://www.saafe.info/main/index.php?topic=4039.0). However, if people are still determined to throw their money at total strangers and random companies on the strength of a telephone sales pitch and without doing any checking beforehand, there's little anybody can do to stop them, and that is how these operations have been going for so long.

I suggest you contact STS if you wish to help in any continuing action against the scammers. As ever, SAAFE do not recommend anybody sends personal details or any possibly identifying information to random people from the internet.
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: NewGirlHere on 13 July 2012, 02:44:46 pm
Elegant International escort agency posted their ad on ozadz.com few days ago offering well paid jobs for escorts. called them up, they booked me for overnight appointment, said client pays 5000, and i get 4000 the next morning in their office in central london. I am totally new to the industry, and now realise how stupid i was. the next morning when i was on my way to the office ''the boss'' texted me saying police has raided the agency and they can not pay the fees. please someone help me! i don't know what to do and how to get the bastard. please
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: Dani on 13 July 2012, 07:18:47 pm
Do they actually have an office?  Have you been there before?  If not I do not know what you can do.  This is unfortunately one of the many scams around and there are lots of different varieties but they all end up with a girl having sex and not getting her money the next day or later the same day.  I am sorry you got caught out but please always remember one thing.......
If it sounds too good to be true then it is.  ?5000 for one night?  I am sorry but just about no one gets that sort of money especially someone who has not built a great reputation and even loads who have still get nowhere near that.

Put it behind you and remember one other thing.  NO PAY = NO PLAY.  Money upfront all the way. 

I know the thought of all that money probably seemed to good to resist but they rely on others greed (we all suffer from greed in one way or another) to get the better of them, so they do not bother doing checks as the pound signs are just too good.

Never allow anyone to touch you before payment has been made.  Also read through the main site and then read it again as it has lots of info you will find helpful if just starting out.
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: Ramo on 16 July 2012, 05:18:10 pm
Agency no92 escorts - thought I'd warn ppl about this agency - I know someone brought it up before, after my email convo - def a scam - here convo for you to see.  :FF


What is your problem??

you've said your bit and I, mine.  Go away!!

> Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 10:33:18 -0500
> From: info@no92escorts.co.uk
> Subject: RE:
>
>
> Yawnnnnnnnn
>
>
> Quoting Matthew:
>
> >
> > Hi Astrid,
> > If you heard it all before then you know the game and how the
> > industry works. Thank you for your reply, most appreciated and
> > shows how very unprofessional you are! An agency I would not like to
> > work for.
> > Regards
> > Matthew
> >> Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 08:31:58 -0500
> >> From: info@no92escorts.co.uk
> >> Subject: RE:
> >>
> >>
> >> Yawnnn, I have heard it all before.
> >>
> >>
> >> Quoting Matthew [removed]:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Hi Astrid,If it requires paying fees up front, then I will not be
> >> > registering, as an agency you should be making money of the client
> >> > and not your workers. i am happy to pay commission once the job is
> >> > done or registering fees after the first job but that is all. I hope
> >> > this does not cause an inconveniences.RegardsMatthew
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 06:51:04 -0500
> >> >> From: info@no92escorts.co.uk
> >> >> Subject:
> >> >>
> >> >> Hi
> >> >> We had a client asking to hire you.
> >> >> I can only give your contact details if you are a full member.
> >> >> Do you intend on registering with our agency?
> >> >> Regards
> >> >> Astrid XXX
> >> >> www. no92escorts.co.uk
> >> >> 08724261304



And btw - have found this thread very helpful :)
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: Hazel_67 on 20 August 2012, 10:37:24 pm
Hi girls,

I'm considering joining an escorting company called premiere events.  I recieved a phone call tday after initally contacting them mainly out of cuirosity.  I am very new to this so I'm very unsure as to how it all works, the girl I spoke to has assured me that I have several matches in my area after I answered all of her questions however she then went on to explain that I pay a membership fee of ?300 for 3 months minimum and so it increases for 6 months to 9 months membership. 

I would really appreciate a bit of advice as I'm unsure of the protocol with escorting agencies, is this the norm? I am a student who is struggling for money so ?300 is alot to me at the moment and I'm terrified of paying this noney and I dont get any jobs? The lady I spoke to assured my she could have me booked out this weekend and its double time as well because it is a bank holiday however it all seems to good to be true and I cant help but thinking how many other girls are promised unlimited opportunitys to earn money and once they have paid their intial ?300 can be left high and dry so to speak? the agency is called premiere events and its a members only website from what i can gather.

Any advice or information would be really appreciated xx
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: River on 20 August 2012, 11:34:46 pm
Hi Hazel.
Real world agencies get a cut from the fee paid to you by the client.
After you have been paid in full by the client, and done the escort job
(in that order  ;))  you pay the agreed % of the fee, to the agency.

Where they ask for an up front fee there is no job, they make their money from you.
It is 100% a scam.
You pay and never ever get a job.
Or hear from them again.

Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: Hazel_67 on 20 August 2012, 11:52:50 pm
Hi Jodie,

I appreciate your advice thanks, I thought it seemed to good to be true, I had a look on heir website however you need to be a member to see any real information.

So basically the set up is all wrong? And for someone as in-expeienced as myself this is too tempting, I'm glad I investigated before handing over my cash as I was seriously thinking about it!
Do you have any advice as to telling which agencies are a scam or not? I take it I shouldnt be paying for anything upfront? xx
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: amy on 21 August 2012, 12:02:03 am
Hazel, if you read the rest of this (lengthy) thread there is a lot of information, plus a comprehensive article on the main SAAFE site (http://www.saafe.info/).

Basically if they want you to give them money before you have met any clients and been paid by them, it's a scam. If you are seriously considering beginning sex work, the main site articles are by far the best way to start equipping yourself.
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: Hazel_67 on 21 August 2012, 12:22:14 am
Thanks Amy x
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: River on 21 August 2012, 02:01:52 pm
I appreciate your advice thanks, I thought it seemed to good to be true, I had a look on heir website
however you need to be a member to see any real information.
So basically the set up is all wrong?

Do you have any advice as to telling which agencies are a scam or not?
I take it I shouldnt be paying for anything upfront? xx
Hiya Hazel.
I had a guess when googling the name and found an agency
which had details of the escorts hidden unless you join.
I guessed it was the one you were talking about.

How to spot a scam escort agency
These are agencies who scam money off escorts or wannabe-escorts.
Rather than connecting escorts with clients and subsequently being paid a % of the fee,
they manipulate the escort into parting with money under the guise of:
Registration fee, Marketing/advertising fee, Admin fee.

There are some major red flags:
1 The website requires people to register before they can see details of the escorts.
Why on earth would any legitimate Escort agency put up a barrier between the client and the escort? No punter will join just to look at the escort details; why would they when they can peruse any number of legitimate agencies* where escorts are readily available?
Reason ? The site is not for potential clients, it's target is wannabe escorts.

2 Their website does not promote / feature / display specific escorts they supposedly have on their books,
to potential clients.
Which for any legitimate agency* is where the only money comes from.
Instead the websites of scam agency's are mainly slanted towards people joining them as escorts,
often hinting that 'no experience is necessary' or 'newcomers welcome'
Inducing people to become prozzies is illegal in uk law, but this is ironically one law they are not breaking --- BECAUSE THERE ARE NO ACTUAL CLIENTS.
other than you, the escort or as they describe you in all good con rackets: 'The Mark'

3 They request you to pay an UP FRONT REGISTRATION FEE.
Which is actually the only money involved in the whole cycle.
Not good as it's your money.

4 You are specifically NOT EXPECTED NOR REQUIRED TO HAVE SEX WITH THE CLIENTS, EVER.
"All our up-market professional clients seek an engaging Companion for social engagements, such as the theatre, a meal, or a work function.
- Escorts who suck willies also do social engagements too.
Why would a client book a 'no-sex' escort when he can hire any escort, have the same fun social experience
 And still have the option of sex with her later, if he fancies it?
The market for no-sex escorts is almost non-existent.
 If you want to be an escort you will suck willy's 99% of the time ? FACT!



*Legitimate in as far as they advertise escorts and arrange for the escort chosen by the client to visit him, for a % of the fee. In legal terms, this is illegal but only the agency is breaking the law.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Other than this, I'd suggest you take a look over the threads here, using the Search facility to look up "agencies", "scams" and "starting out"
The site specifically prohibits agencies being promoted or recommended in forum posts,
basically because the are illegal operations. But various members may recommend agencies to you via PM's.
Oh, I forgot to mention, the site has an awesome main page with a tab marked:
Information for Escorts This is probably the best place to look at.

I hope that helps a little.
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: Vivoom on 21 August 2012, 02:19:25 pm
Hi, I have just received a call from this agency. Has anyone heard of thee before? Any feedback welcome they say they are a no sex agency and I can just socialise with women if I want??
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: janitor on 21 August 2012, 02:31:09 pm
I havent time to look for the site, but answer these two questions

Do you need to be a member to view the mugs escorts you wish to book?
Have they asked for money yet? if not see if they do  before any booking materialises,
if the answer to either is yes, read the scam agency thread below and forget them
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: Vivoom on 21 August 2012, 02:47:46 pm
No there is no fee. They said you get ?380 for max 4 hours work. And yes you have to have a log in. But they do have info up of male and female escort of the month?
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: Vivoom on 21 August 2012, 02:51:33 pm
Www.premierevents.biz
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: janitor on 21 August 2012, 02:52:41 pm
So its not this place then http:// premierevents . biz ?

Which has in its terms
3.14. You may terminate your membership at any time, for any reason, effective upon receipt by us of your written or email notice of termination to the details given above. In the event of such termination no refund of monies paid will be given.
 3.15. We shall be entitled to terminate your membership forthwith and your access to the Service in the event that you are in breach of any term of this Agreement. Notice of termination will be sent to you at the email address you provide in your application for membership or such other email address as you may have later provided. In the event of termination pursuant to this clause, no refund will be given. Our right to terminate this Agreement shall include, but not be limited to:
If you fail to make any payment to us when due.

In that case, as there is no money to loose, you have notnhing to loose apart from having your details hidden so your unlikey to get any work  :)
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: janitor on 21 August 2012, 02:55:01 pm
Looks like  I was right then, I stand by my above comments, read the scam agency thread, spot all the similar signs with this outfit? Forget them or play a long a bit wasting their time if your bored, but DO NOT hand over a penny.
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: Mugged on 22 August 2012, 02:27:52 pm
I too have just had a phone call from Premier Events http://premierevents.biz/ from a very smooth talking woman who sounded exactly the same as the woman from Client Connections where I was stupid enough to hand over money for registration on the promise of bookings.  I have just tried to log into the profile they apparently gave me and unable to do so???
I suspect it's the same company just another rip off.
I just hope that this thread is searchable and read by others who are tempted due to financial problems, never hand over any money even in moments of desperation.
 :-*
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: charmers1585 on 11 October 2012, 02:22:29 pm
Hi

I am completely new to this and this morning have paid ?149 to a company called femalerecruitment.com. They told me it was for my profile fees etc. Upon googling them I am concerned as to whether I have been scammed? I do have a profile on their site but this includes no photo of me. Have I been really gullible, I did have a good look through their site etc before and it all seems so real. They have told me I have a booking for Saturday but the ?149 had to be paid first so I did figuring I will make my money back then. Now I am just worried. Can anyone advise please, I would be so appreciative.
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: xw5 on 11 October 2012, 02:42:28 pm
You've been scammed.

Let me find the thread with more victims of this sort of scam... If it's any consolation, most of them paid more.
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: naughtyjas on 13 October 2012, 07:45:51 am
I came across a newspaper report about a woman who has just been convicted for running a scam agency.  It is very sad that so many people fell for it.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2216889/Conwoman-raked-1-9m-thousands-people-charging-250-join-bogus-escort-agency.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2216889/Conwoman-raked-1-9m-thousands-people-charging-250-join-bogus-escort-agency.html)

If it's okay with the mods to post it here? 
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: EmilyJones on 13 October 2012, 09:10:52 am
I should think it's fine to post that link as an extra bit of evidence to show that scam agencies exist and need to be watched out for very carefully. It includes a bit about her MO - asking for an up-front "administration fee" - which is helpful, too. Glad to hear that con artist got caught, too. I find the idea of earning a living by scamming others to really be the lowest of the low. Scammers always think they are SO much smarter than everyone else... til they get sent to prison!
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: xw5 on 13 October 2012, 10:26:51 am
Sticking
Quote
"Claire Miller" escort agency
into a search engine produces a variety of better results.

It looks like this was one or more of the 'become an escort or chauffeur or film extra or etc' sites that try for multiple markets. So, yes, look at the numbers who fell for it and think of all the sites she wasn't and isn't running. One scammer down - and hooray for the police taking an interest - more to go.



Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: ana30 on 15 October 2012, 12:10:08 am
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2216889/Conwoman-raked-1-9m-thousands-people-charging-250-join-bogus-escort-agency.html?ITO=1490

i wonder if there's a thread on this agency on this site.
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: nimfulja on 11 November 2012, 12:16:07 pm
Hi everyone!
 Can somebody give me any information about Elegance 4 Her escort agency. I'm about to sing up with them but would like to know bit more.
Many many thanks!!!
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: amy on 11 November 2012, 12:26:54 pm
Hi everyone!
 Can somebody give me any information about Elegance 4 Her escort agency. I'm about to sing up with them but would like to know bit more.
Many many thanks!!!

Yes, they're a scam - just as is anyone else who tells you there's work for straight male escorts. Have a read of this thread, and also the Straight Male Escorts one further down the page.
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: princess_ on 11 November 2012, 03:59:16 pm
Hi

I am looking for some advice on whether any body knows if Scarlets World Escorts (http://scarletsworldescorts.co.uk/) is a scam?

my boyfriend signed up to them about 4 months ago and paid a sign up fee of ?350 he was told he had two clients wanting to book him but had to pay a deposit of ?1500 which he paid! he has heard nothing since and keeps getting fobbed off when he calls them.

Do you have any advice on what to do if this is a scam?

Thanks
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: Lady_Lust_XXX on 11 November 2012, 04:43:15 pm
Sorry to be the one to pass on the bad news but if ANYONE has to pay ANY AMOUNT OF MONEY to an agency IT IS A SCAM. 

I think you will have realised that now though if you have read the rest of this thread though.

Sorry your bf has been fleeced for such a large amount of money but dont expect to see any of it again.  :(
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: xw5 on 11 November 2012, 04:46:08 pm
It wanted money in advance, so yes, it was.

It pretended there was a significant market for straight male escorts, so yes, it was.

It wants money off clients just to see who's available, so even if it weren't, it'd be crap.

Normally, victims lose nearer to the ?350, but they must have thought he was particularly gullible to ask for ?1,500 on top of that. It's almost certainly vanished, but it would be worth talking to your local Trading Standards department. How did he pay? How did he find them? If it was via an ad, tell whoever published it.

Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: princess_ on 11 November 2012, 04:58:32 pm
Thanks for your responses...

The reason he paid so much money upfront was because his friend told him about the agency and said he had signed up and had 5 bookings within 6 weeks so it seemed trustworthy.

He paid the money into their bank account which has the account name ' J L C Marketing'

Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: Lady_Lust_XXX on 11 November 2012, 05:04:03 pm
I hate to ask but was this 'friend' trustworthy?  He couldnt be part of the scam, could he ?

I've never heard of a guy getting ONE booking from an agency never mind 5 in 6 weeks.

Sounds very suspicious to me though normal for agencies.
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: joehannis on 15 November 2012, 11:11:13 am
has anyone heard of deep blue escorts? i want to know if they are a legit company they have a company reg number, which links to a larger deep blue media group, which on their site they claim to be a part of. But i am still not convinced. can anyone help?
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: strawberry on 15 November 2012, 11:14:37 am
Quick google and there you are;

http://www.canyoutrustthem.com/index.php?go=details&id=27039


If they require a large upfront fee, then they are a scam.

Looking at their own website it seems they think there is a market for straight male escorts, this also screams scam (or at best wasting your time).
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: MissPretty on 18 November 2012, 07:31:39 pm
I did fall for smething like this for 250 pounds and never got a single job they promice me i would get jobs from 600? i just had start escorting so i fall for it.
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: SarahJane on 21 November 2012, 02:08:27 pm
Hey guys,

Im new to this, after a friend started escorting and found it quite rewarding i thought i would have a look into it and maybe give it ago? I have signed up with a agency called Diamond UK, and have paid them 190 pounds to set up my profile and get things started. I am feeling increasingly concerned now i have done this i have been very stupid and naive and may have been conned out of this money and they may have no intention of doing anything with me? Does anybody know anything about this agency or have experience working with them? Need answers ASAP so i can figure out what to do! :/
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: EmilyJones on 21 November 2012, 04:29:20 pm
Hey guys,

Im new to this, after a friend started escorting and found it quite rewarding i thought i would have a look into it and maybe give it ago? I have signed up with a agency called Diamond UK, and have paid them 190 pounds to set up my profile and get things started. I am feeling increasingly concerned now i have done this i have been very stupid and naive and may have been conned out of this money and they may have no intention of doing anything with me? Does anybody know anything about this agency or have experience working with them? Need answers ASAP so i can figure out what to do! :/

If anyone asks you (the escort) to pay them cash up-front, they are 99.99% likely to be a scammer. I'm afraid you've almost certainly lost your money. Read through this whole thread from start to finish to get a good idea of how scammers tend to operate.

Escorts must always take cash up-front from clients, in order to avoid being ripped off, but no genuine agency takes money from escorts until *after* the booking has taken place. Escorts are, unfortunately, the ones who have to constantly be on their guard!
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: strawberry on 22 November 2012, 08:34:44 am
I think I've found the Diamonds site, and it's not very impressive.

An agency is supposed to provide back up and arrange bookings for you, how can they do this when they are covering the entire country?They also say their Escorts are "hand-picked". No offence to the people with profiles on there but it just looks as if they take anyone on who is willing to fill in a form and pay their upfront fees. They look to me like an advertising site and unless they come up in a google search for your area you are going to get nothing from it, without your own phone number relying on them to field enquiries I suspect you won't even get that.
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: cristina2913 on 30 November 2012, 05:26:51 pm
Hi I have decided to join the Escort industry as I need to pay for my Masters Degree somehow.

I have been browsing around the net but I am not sure who to trust, everyone asks for Membership fees, professional pictures,etc...
Is this normal?
I do not fancy getting mugged off and ending more broke than I already am!

Anyone can forward me any good agencies?
I would like to start doing "Companionship" at first just to break the ice a little.

I need a mentor

Lost little Lamb :D
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: xw5 on 30 November 2012, 06:03:26 pm
I've moved your question here, because

a) Anyone asking you to pay before you have cash in your hand from a client is a scammer

b) Because there is only a tiny market for non-sexual escorting, all the 'agencies' pretending otherwise are scams.

If you don't think you can have sex for cash, start thinking of other ways to make money. If you could, have a read of the main saafe.info site and a browse of threads here. Anything you're still not sure about, ask away.
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: pandora on 25 January 2013, 04:27:48 pm
I got the usual spiel from someone claiming to have 25000 hits a month on his site looking for escorts in Kent.  Wading through the diatribe, (I was a bit bored), he then asked me for a one off fee of ?199 to advertise on his amazing site. Obviously no chance.

Supposedly on the first page of google, "if I google escorts gravesend (im in Maidstone)", I load up a page covering the whole of Kent with  one fake lady, one agency and an army of "male escorts". 

His site also manages gentlemen4u, where for the minimal sum of 9.99 a mth you can have thousands of women booking you for social functions for ?100 an hour.

If you are bored in the snow and I am, have a look at [removed] escort.  I am rushing to book him, hysterical!!! And no cock pic either.
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: Aliya on 25 January 2013, 04:57:43 pm
Lol. Just checked him out.   ??? ??? ??? Claims to have many years of experience.....   ;D do let me know how you get on. Might book him also.....
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: Dani on 25 January 2013, 05:03:24 pm
I got this as well and I am in the East Midlands :FF

As for Mick I love the fact he is ?50 an hour for the first two hours and then ?100 an hour for extra hours.  I am sure if women did pay for escorts then he would be just as busy as everyone else as we have found that in this job everyone like something different.
For me he would not be eye candy for someone else he might well be.  Same as I do not appeal to everyone but I do appeal to some.

i do feel sorry for these guys though as they have been royally conned but still pay out each month in the hope they will get just one woman pay them for sex.  Think how much they pay each month and even if one woman did book they would still have lost money.  I think it might just be they live in hope they will be able to tell their mates a woman did pay them.  I cannot think of any other reason these guys would keep on paying to advertise when there is just no work for them.

If I was paying I would want it all to be about me and would not even want to see their cock (I see enough during the day) as I am bloody selfish and most guys are not capable of that.  Its rare to find a guy who will spend all night making a woman happy with no thought to their own needs and I doubt these guys are any different even if being paid.  Pity as one or two looked rather tasty. 
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: amy on 25 January 2013, 11:39:39 pm
For me he would not be eye candy for someone else he might well be.  Same as I do not appeal to everyone but I do appeal to some.


I've only got my phone with me and  have no idea who the man mentioned is, but whilst I'm sure the site is well worth flagging up, I've removed his name from the earlier post. There is no need to be cruel.
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: Kayci on 29 January 2013, 04:53:49 pm
Hi everyone, anyone had dealings with this 'agency' or got any info on it? Friend of mine is thinking of joining (promising that of people in agency is making 400+ a day from credits and phone is ringing off the hook...  Etc etc).  Ive done a google and found a post on the forum we dont mention here and advises the person behind the agency has been done for fraud / drugs (newspaper acticle about it).  He is asking for 2000 to join and telling her he has clients such as [removed] and so on. 

Any info / advice on this agency would be great.  Ive told her its BS to pay upfront and he saying he has such and such as a client.

Thanks in advance.  X x
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: Cat_BBW on 29 January 2013, 04:57:38 pm
Any agency that asks you to pay upfront is a SCAM.

Full stop.
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: amy on 29 January 2013, 05:01:54 pm
Any agency that asks you to pay upfront is a SCAM.

Indeed it is, and I've merged it into the main thread. Just for the record (and for the benefit of newer members) we don't discuss any other forums here - there isn't one or two in particular who get special treatment. I've also left the 'agency' name alone, since it's clearly a crock of shit.

I don't know who [removed] is (and outing punters isn't exactly sensible behaviour from any pimp, even a non-scam one), but given that you're mentioning 'credits' Kayci does this mean that this outfit has something to do with Adultwork? If so, I'm pretty sure this is a breach of their Terms of Use.
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: Kayci on 29 January 2013, 06:06:51 pm
Hiya, sorry when i said [removed] i meant a certain popstar.  Also the credits thing he is telling the person i know that she will make that from PG / movies (through his group page traffic).  Also i wasnt going to mention another site just said after i googled the agency name and found a post about it.  He asked for the 2000 upfront to advertise her on google (front page when searched).
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: amy on 29 January 2013, 06:33:24 pm
Well I'm still none the wiser, but I'm assuming that others would be able to identify this man from the information given so I've removed the reference.

Anybody with enough determination can get on the front page of Google depending on what people are searching for (if I searched for Amy Vergnes In Scarborough I'd be right at the top too, but I doubt many people are going to do that) and how hard they're prepared to work at it. There's a bit of luck involved too, but giving some random tosspot 2 grand certainly isn't necessary :).

Like everybody else says, if he was that convinced about how much money your friend was going to make him, he wouldn't need it - Google is FREE. Plus the fact that the only thing that can be found by searching for the agency name is a random forum post ought to be enough to convince her how great his SEO skills are, if nothing else.
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: Fallen Lucifer on 29 January 2013, 07:12:48 pm
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Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: xw5 on 29 January 2013, 07:55:16 pm
I haven't heard of this 'this is why we need the money' before but...

Any agency that asks you to pay upfront is a SCAM.

Full stop.

.. still applies.
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: strawberry on 30 January 2013, 12:31:32 am
I recently spot a website, they said I need to pay 250 to just build a profile for them, of course only member is allowed to log in.
So I can't actually see if there is anything in it, after she told me my profile had 7 hints in one night, and ask me for money, I said if i have no money now,and you are sure I can make money for you, why can you let my profile be there,and once I got booking I pay you back.
since then I have not heard of her again...

do you think they are fake agency?

it's kind of confuse and make me mad when I have absolutely no client at all. :FF :FF :FF :FF :FF :FF :FF :FF

Hits mean nothing. You might need 200 or 2000 hits before you get your first booking and I'd say it's at least the first number but more like somewhere in the middle. I get cross when certain little known directories tell me how many 'hits' my profile has had (usually in the range of 10-20) that month, I know the major players will net me that in one day, never mind a month and without knowing the conversion rate, or who's actually looking that figure is actually worthless.
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: xw5 on 30 January 2013, 08:21:44 am
This one's just a variant of 'we have this rich client wanting to book you... once you pay us lots of money first'.
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: chloe270185 on 04 March 2013, 05:45:15 pm
Hi, i have jus signed up 2an agency called Dukes of Daisy, i would like to think that it is a legit escort agency &was just wondering if any of u had heard of it, u can find it on google &i can view my profile as it is up and running now. would reali appreciate all your thoughts.
Thanku Chloe xx
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: ana30 on 04 March 2013, 06:00:56 pm
Quote
Can I offer sexual services or "extras"?

No, we are strictly a non-sexual escort agency and our clients are looking for companionship only. Our companion escorts do not offer sexual services or "extras".

(copied + paste from their website)

Is this another banner to cover up their ass ( legally speaking) or are they for real one of those er..."companionship only" agency?
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: Dani on 04 March 2013, 06:04:02 pm
Looking at it I doubt very much it is going to get you any work.  I bet you had to pay a fee to join didnt you? 
Just to let you know there is NEXT TO NO work for non sexual escorts and this site looks absolutely awful.
I also googled male escorts and female escorts and could not find the site anywhere in the first few pages so clients wont either.
One other thing you do know this website was only put up this year dont you.  SO I doubt very much they have a good client base as they are new hence the copyright 2013 at the bottom of the site.

If you want to be an escort get a profile on Adultwork.  Read the main saafe site as well as this forum.

I honestly cannot see any guy booking from this site at all as it is tacky and just awful. 

Seriously you can make a free website on your own and then put it for free on lots of advertising sites like punterlink etc where not only do you get all of the money you earn (agencies always take a cut) you also get to pick and choose who you see.

I will say though that this site comes across as saying non sexual meetings and there is next toi no work for that at all
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: ana30 on 04 March 2013, 06:05:20 pm
I would only join if I don't have to pay a dime.
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: xw5 on 04 March 2013, 06:56:40 pm
I hope you haven't paid them any money, because I have just moved this to the relevant topic - do have a read through it.
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: jennymyshe on 14 March 2013, 11:17:24 am
Hello everyone.. wonder if i can get any advice please.
There is a male escort agency which has been calling me calling me for the past three days, immediately after my registration on one of the adult work website.
They claim  to have ready clients to pay me 150p/h, and have already marketed my profile. The fee required is of 199 per annum.
The name of the agency is : http://www.  lovelymelodies.co.uk/ Tel: 0203 397 3748
Based in Company Number-  04563356   
                 
   Address- LM Services                       
                   2 Fell Walk   
                   Wellingborough   
                   Northamptonshire   
                    NN8 5ZU     

Is there any website where i can insert the Url of the agency and check it straight away?
Thanks a lot





[Link edited]
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: Nameless on 14 March 2013, 11:20:34 am
Have a good read of this thread.  Any agency asking for upfront money is scamming you, and telling you tall tales of all the bookings you will get to try and lure you in.  Its simple there is no demand for male escorts unless you are willing to see men, even then it is a very difficult market.

Don't be fooled they are trying to rip you off.
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: jamjar75 on 25 March 2013, 09:17:38 pm
This company MUST be avoided at all costs!
They are a fraudulent company who promise the earth and deliver nothing.
After numerous telephone calls made they've taken my ?200 and will now
Not answer my calls.

Stay away from these fraudsters!
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: sofia on 08 April 2013, 09:47:25 am
Hello there, I have been offered work with Silent Partner in London. I haven't heard from them before, does any one had work with them?
I will really appreciate any comment.

Thank you  :)

Sofia
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: xw5 on 08 April 2013, 10:45:16 am
We don't do recommendations for agencies except via private messages (and be aware that positive ones may be shilling!)

The only thing I can find with that name is a 'companion agency' scam, so I've merged your post with this one which mentions them at least once...
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: sergiou on 08 April 2013, 11:41:41 am
I need to warn other men, DO NOT fall for the scam escorting site www.lovelymelodies.co.uk. They took my 200 pounds and vanished. The lady Melanie sounded so convincing. I fell for it. Foolish. Now their phone is disconnected too.
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: jennymyshe on 09 May 2013, 11:25:42 pm
I was called today by a guy saying he is recruting people from an agency ... they are a new agency. I asked for the name of the agency and he said he wanted to meet me for a chat. He seemed nice and talkative, however when he asked me to meet for coffee with me, i replied that it should be in a public place, and he hang up. If his bactery died or phone went wrong, he should have called me back,,, but he did not.
After 45 min, the same number called me but on my other nr..  as i have another profile with different proposals, and when i answered this time was a lady, and i told her straight away sorry wrong number.
07984-514*** / Nothing major and no need to alert anyone, just i thought would be good to know if the guy is calling someone of you too.
Thanx.com/
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: mandie on 28 May 2013, 05:33:44 pm
 ;D hi I am trying to start as an escort and have been scammed already by melody bloom and would like to know if female recruitment is ok to start with? thanks ladies 
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: xw5 on 28 May 2013, 05:47:23 pm
If it's the one I am thinking of, it's another scam, along with every other 'agency' that pretends that there's work for non-sexual escorts and/or wants any money upfront before you have cash in your hand from a client.

If you bought into the former, there's a thread on the subject where you will find other victims' stories.
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: mandie on 28 May 2013, 05:51:01 pm
thanks so much last thing I need is to lose even more money  :FF will look for the thread
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: xw5 on 28 May 2013, 06:00:59 pm
I've merged your post with it :)

If you want to do escorting, there is lots of advice here and on the main SAAFE.info site, but it will involve being sexual with men.
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: mandie on 28 May 2013, 06:21:28 pm
thank you very much! would have been gutted if there was no sex lol I will read through all the posts and start up on my own thanks again wish I had found this site sooner would have saved me ?299.00  :'(
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: Lil Lolita on 30 May 2013, 10:10:02 am
Sadly, I made this mistake a good few years ago when I got back into escorting. I very stupidly believed as well that clients would only pay for dinner and that was it (how stupid was I). Willy nilly handed over ?200 for "insurance", never got one booking. There are sadly so many scam agencies about, but I would never ever go to one that asked me to hand over ANY money. The one I am with now never did, and I am very happy with them (apart from one of the workers, but I believe he has been spoken to).
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: lollipop on 02 July 2013, 12:58:34 pm
Hi

Does anyone know of any legit company's/websites for social companions. I looked at elegant companions but it seems to be a scam....

xx
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: Duras on 05 July 2013, 05:54:05 pm
hi all, I was thinking of becoming a male escort and phoned an agencies add on a paper. Like I've read on many comments it sounds too good to be true. the agency is called Silent Partner. the web site is advertised as www.silentpartner.co     thats not a type error it is .co    They are looking for ?290 up front and have called be back to book me for 2 nights this weekend. this all happened today. They do have a web site here and the phone no.s match but are registered to a co. called telecommunications in london. Has anyone used silent partners escort agency for work or should I run a mile or at least insist on paying them on monday after meeting the clients. they prob say no but at least my money would still be in my pocket. Is this normal practice for an agency. They have text me a bank account to lodge the money to in the morning. all advice much appreciated. thanks a mil.
.    They are scammers...it is answering a lady very old I can notice..who is saying that you will be paid minimum 4 hour with 150 pound per hour that means minimum 600 pounds plus they will pay you for the taxi in London....with lady will pay you 600 pounds? That s bullshit....the story is very nice and beautiful but when you ask about scammers she is saying that she cant notice any scammers around...than she ask you very polite where are you from ,to know who she is dealing with....very clever ,,,,very clever....Avoid Avoid they are scammers like all.....they ask you to pay in advance 250 pounds for a web page maintenance ,a year ,,,witch is to belive....the amount of the money is very inteligent chose ....to be payed ..I am woundering if you pay and go to the job what you gone a find to that adress....lol....lol.
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: samantha1983 on 09 August 2013, 12:27:53 pm
Hi im thinking of becoming an escort and have spoken to an agency . I have sent pictures and received a call from them who explained about them and would be happy for me to work for them if I was as intrested.  They werent pushy and the gentleman was very professional . They have asked for a fee of ?190 to work through them they find the clients etc . Is this normal ? Can you also explain what in call and out call mean please?

Any information about the business what be so helpful

Thank u
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: amy on 09 August 2013, 12:34:12 pm
Hi im thinking of becoming an escort and have spoken to an agency . I have sent pictures and received a call from them who explained about them and would be happy for me to work for them if I was as intrested.  They werent pushy and the gentleman was very professional . They have asked for a fee of ?190 to work through them they find the clients etc . Is this normal ? Can you also explain what in call and out call mean please?

Any information about the business what be so helpful

Thank u

Firstly, the 'agency' is a scam - never, ever contact them again and don't send them any money. We don't recommend agency work here anyway, but no genuine operation (however crappy) would ask you to give them any payment upfront - you work, you get paid, you give them their cut is how it works :). If they told you you can be an 'escort' without having sexual contact with men, that's a lie too.

If you honestly don't even know what the basic terms mean, you really need to read the main SAAFE site (http://www.saafe.info/) before you find yourself in really hot water - the scammers (and their pals running the genuine but awful 'agencies') can smell naivety and desperation a mile off, and will take advantage in any way they can and that's before you've even met a punter. Deciding to start working at a job without actually knowing anything about it or how to do it isn't something many people would recommend for any occupation beyond shelf filling and there's a lot to learn, but we're all here to help.

And welcome to SAAFE!
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: samantha1983 on 09 August 2013, 12:44:04 pm
Thank you for your advice

Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: xw5 on 09 August 2013, 01:03:21 pm
It's unusual for a scam to start talking about incalls - normally they go on about being taken to dinner etc - but yep, they want money upfront = they are a scam.

Feel free to name them.
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: Natsumi_Nakamura on 27 August 2013, 03:27:38 pm
Hi!I am also a newbie,looking for starting in Escorts work,and i have exactly the same problem!Crystal escorts tried to get my money.Honest,don't know where to turn to,as all agencies seem to ask for fees,and sometimes,even expensive ones!Any advice?I work as an independent escort,but i am not being successful,since i get a lot of phone calls but then those who call,never show up,and are complete time wasters...what to do??Please help!
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: Natsumi_Nakamura on 27 August 2013, 03:47:04 pm
I'd say the worst one,even though all scams are awful,is CrystalEscorts!A woman calls you up,everytime,using different phone numbers.Asking for your money,promising you a working place.Making things look pinky,blah blah!"Oh,you will have a lot of bookings by what you are describing yoursef to be,so don't waste your time,and pay us the fee as soon as possible,and you will get to start in two days!"
Nah!I've seen too much of this.I didn't fall victim of it,because,due to my life circumstances,I became a very cautious person.But I advise you,ladies.Please,please,don't fall for this!!!If the person on the other side of the line tells you the name Crystal Escorts,just tell her/him to bugger off!!
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: Lil Lolita on 29 August 2013, 08:11:01 am
I'd say the worst one,even though all scams are awful,is CrystalEscorts!A woman calls you up,everytime,using different phone numbers.Asking for your money,promising you a working place.Making things look pinky,blah blah!"Oh,you will have a lot of bookings by what you are describing yoursef to be,so don't waste your time,and pay us the fee as soon as possible,and you will get to start in two days!"
Nah!I've seen too much of this.I didn't fall victim of it,because,due to my life circumstances,I became a very cautious person.But I advise you,ladies.Please,please,don't fall for this!!!If the person on the other side of the line tells you the name Crystal Escorts,just tell her/him to bugger off!!

Natsumi, these were the exact same little shits that ripped me off! I had the exact same false promises and how I needed to put down ?250 as "insurance" just incase I spilt coffee down a clients clothes etc. Oh how vulnerable I was back then and how I wish I had found SAAFE sooner! :(
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: sandi12 on 04 September 2013, 11:37:02 pm
Obviously it's clear that everyone is saying "if they ask for money they are a scam".

I got in touch with Escorts X (www.escortsx.co.uk) and they were looking for ?365 for public liability insurance... I take it this is just a scam?

If anyone knows anything about them I would be grateful to hear.
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: amy on 04 September 2013, 11:41:31 pm
Obviously it's clear that everyone is saying "if they ask for money they are a scam".

I got in touch with Escorts X (www.escortsx.co.uk) and they were looking for ?365 for public liability insurance... I take it this is just a scam?

If anyone knows anything about them I would be grateful to hear.

See emboldened sections for what we know about them :).
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: xw5 on 05 September 2013, 08:43:25 am
The list of excuses scams come up with for wanting the money are endless, but yes, they are yet another not very literate scam. If you want to amuse yourself by wasting their time, ask to be emailed a copy of the insurance policy they say they want you to pay for...

Other signs: they pretend there's any significant market for non-sexual escorting, and the site is all about attracting victims rather than allowing visitors to book anyone.

Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: strawberry on 05 September 2013, 09:05:50 am
The list of excuses scams come up with for wanting the money are endless, but yes, they are yet another not very literate scam. If you want to amuse yourself by wasting their time, ask to be emailed a copy of the insurance policy they say they want you to pay for...

Other signs: they pretend there's any significant market for non-sexual escorting, and the site is all about attracting victims rather than allowing visitors to book anyone.

I was thinking of this too, ask them for their insurance policy details. ;D

Is it illegal to ask for money for insurance that doesn't exist?
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: sandi12 on 05 September 2013, 10:21:56 am
Great. I'll give that a go.

Also, surely because you'd be self-employed you'd be subject to your own liability insurance rather than theirs?
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: aaa on 16 April 2014, 11:25:37 pm
Hi,

This is my first post and im just getting used to this sie atm.

I was wondering if anyone can help or advise me please. Basically I joined a none sex escort agency in july 2013. They said they had many clients and had booked me a job. So I thought great. Anyway, I paid them 275 as an advertising fee. After the payment was made this company have never been in touch. They cancelled my first booking. I have eang them so many times and thry keep fobbing me off  ive spoken with a lot if their staff and even their director, who was so rude to me. I feel like they dont care now they have my money. I asked to cancel the advertisment which they did but refuse to give me a refund therefore I asked to be put back in their books which they did ( after a long process) yet ive still not had one booking and my year fee expires this july. This company is a joke and im just so upset I fell for it. Do I have any legal standing? What can I do? I just want my money back. im not sure If I can mention their company name on here but I would love to just to warn others.

Any advice or help would be great.
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: aaa on 17 April 2014, 12:01:57 am
Hi I am new to this site.

I joined an agency in july 2013. So far they have taken 275 and not given me any work  they are rude and keep fibbing me off. I just needed some money at that time as I lost my job. Almost a year on and ive heard nothing. Please help and advise. What should I do? Im still struggling financially and im exhasted with their couldnt care less attitude. Can someone help? Do I have a legal standing?
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: BJC on 17 April 2014, 01:16:55 am
Hi,

This is my first post and im just getting used to this sie atm.

I was wondering if anyone can help or advise me please. Basically I joined a none sex escort agency in july 2013. They said they had many clients and had booked me a job. So I thought great. Anyway, I paid them 275 as an advertising fee. After the payment was made this company have never been in touch. They cancelled my first booking. I have eang them so many times and thry keep fobbing me off  ive spoken with a lot if their staff and even their director, who was so rude to me. I feel like they dont care now they have my money. I asked to cancel the advertisment which they did but refuse to give me a refund therefore I asked to be put back in their books which they did ( after a long process) yet ive still not had one booking and my year fee expires this july. This company is a joke and im just so upset I fell for it. Do I have any legal standing? What can I do? I just want my money back. im not sure If I can mention their company name on here but I would love to just to warn others.


Any advice or help would be great.

Aaa- long answer cut short, you've been scammed. There's not an awful lot you can do, forget about your 275 cause I doubt you'll see it again.
Chalk it up to experience, and if you choose to approach another agency for work do your homework first this time!

Claire x
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: RR on 17 April 2014, 02:29:47 am
Hi I am new to this site.

I joined an agency in july 2013. So far they have taken 275 and not given me any work  they are rude and keep fibbing me off. I just needed some money at that time as I lost my job. Almost a year on and ive heard nothing. Please help and advise. What should I do? Im still struggling financially and im exhasted with their couldnt care less attitude. Can someone help? Do I have a legal standing?

If you paid it via credit card you may be able to claim it back under s75 of the CCA.
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: Always Think on 14 June 2014, 01:17:49 pm
anybody registered with Vivid Pink Escorts / VIP Escorts / Silent Partners Agency
All advertised in the Star newspaper

Take your registration fee and then you cannot get hold of them

Espically Vivid Pink they advertise in The Star Free Registration
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: Caledonia on 14 June 2014, 10:14:52 pm
anybody registered with Vivid Pink Escorts / VIP Escorts / Silent Partners Agency
All advertised in the Star newspaper

Take your registration fee and then you cannot get hold of them

Espically Vivid Pink they advertise in The Star Free Registration

If you have a read through this thread you will see that any Agency that asks for money upfront is a scam.

Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: miss_t on 02 August 2014, 10:31:22 am
Hey,

I am going through a rough patch financially so I thought I'd try Escorting - but I don't want to do anything sexual.

I found a few sites that do Companion only escorting, 2 of them have said they are not recruiting at the moment, however Silent Partner (silent partner.co) said they were. Fortunately I found this site and quickly realised that they are scammers, but I just wondered whether there is such a thing as Non-sexual escorting because it took me an entire day to find 3 companies and 1 of those turned out to be a scam.

Thanks
T
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: xw5 on 02 August 2014, 10:36:06 am
No, it only barely exists.

I am surprised it was only one out of three that's a scam, TBH.

When I am not on a phone, I will merge this with the main 'forget it' thread.
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: KimberlyC on 02 August 2014, 10:38:50 am
I am sure that someone occasionally pays for non-sexual companionship. But it is so rare as to be about impossible to find. If you advertise as an "escort" and don't offer sex, you will probably never get any clients. If you do get clients, the odds are high that they'll still think they can expect sex.

There are plenty of things you can do for money that don't involve sex. There are even people who pay for companionship: for example elderly people who would like someone to come over and read the paper to them, help with light housework, and otherwise keep them company. It certainly doesn't pay very well, but that's the way it is.

Do not attempt to be a non-sexual "escort." You'll be wasting your time. Especially do not pay money to register with any agency that claims to do this sort of thing. It will be a scam.
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: miss_t on 02 August 2014, 10:56:47 am
Thanks your advice ladies! x
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: Candy on 02 August 2014, 02:01:42 pm
Any guy would rather pay for normal sexual escort if he had to take het for exxample for meeting - with having the chance of fucking her. Althoutgh they might be some agencies but must be very rare and must have skillks that offer companion and acters for funeral and other.
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: KimberlyC on 02 August 2014, 02:17:59 pm
Yep. He'd just look for a "high class" escort that looks like she scrubs up well and won't embarrass him.

I think the idea that men want to take a total stranger to "functions" is a bit absurd. I'm sure it happens but it's certainly very rare. "Hi! Here I am with a woman I obviously don't know very well! You may have seen her profile on Adult Work...."
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: SA on 04 August 2014, 12:47:53 pm
Hi All,

you probably already know this but this agency is a scam

Diamond uk

The scammer calls himself Simon. Tries to steal your money and pretends he will put your profile up on his website and get you work.

Simon - Diamond UK [removed]

Simon
Diamond UK
[removed]
www.  diamonduk.info



[contact details removed, link made non-clickable]
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: amy on 04 August 2014, 01:00:16 pm
Having had a brief look, I'd class the above as somewhere between an exceptionally shite advertising site and a half-arsed attempt at an agency by somebody who hasn't got a clue how these work or what they're doing - nobody can guarantee any ad will bring work in, but yes, this is about as appallingly inept as it gets.

We won't be sending their site any traffic from here, either :).
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: blessing1 on 01 October 2014, 11:30:50 am
Hello there, can any one help me please and advice me which is best nonsexual agency to  register with?
i have registered with 3 now they all promised me bookings i paid membership each 300 pounds but i haven't heard from them every time i call them they say no booking. please advice me .thanks
blessing
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: BibiofLeeds on 01 October 2014, 11:53:13 am
There isn't really any such thing as a non sexual agency love and I'm afraid if you have been asked for money to join one it is a scam.Never ever pay to join agencies that is not how agencies get ladies to join their books.
Aside from that men very very rarely pay a woman to just socialise with them by its nature escorting generally involves you to be sexual with the client.
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: xw5 on 01 October 2014, 12:04:44 pm
Yes, I am afraid you have been thoroughly scammed, quite possibly by the same people operating under different names.

About the only comfort is that you're not the only one to fall for it, as a look through the thread I have moved your post too will reveal.
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: blessing1 on 08 October 2014, 09:27:17 pm
thank you very much for all your replies. :FF
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: blessing1 on 08 October 2014, 09:33:06 pm
Any idea please what agency i can join as an escort?  i have never done it but i am badly in debts .iam  25 years old studying  at university and single mum of 3 little ones. would appreciate any help.
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: BibiofLeeds on 08 October 2014, 10:00:22 pm
Any idea please what agency i can join as an escort?  i have never done it but i am badly in debts .iam  25 years old studying  at university and single mum of 3 little ones. would appreciate any help.
If you want to do sex work why do you have to have an agency?Can you not be an independent?
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: blessing1 on 08 October 2014, 10:10:30 pm
What is the way forward please i very new to all of this but iam determined to go for it so long as iam safe. thank you very much. sorry i said agency its because i thought thats where i have to go.
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: xw5 on 09 October 2014, 12:29:51 am
Are you prepared to be sexual with random men you've just met? If the answer is yes, then start with the main SAAFE site (http://www.saafe.info/). Feel free to ask here if you still have any questions after that.

If not, you need to forget escorting.
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: abangalf on 30 January 2015, 08:59:30 pm
Hello Guys! I'm currently interested into being an escort and have been talking to an escort agency for about a week now.
It has progressed that I have to give them a ?200 registration fee. I just want to know if it's a scam or not since I really am need of money.

This is the website.

jewelsoflondon.net

Thank you for any help.



[Link edited to make non-clickable]
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: mature helen on 30 January 2015, 09:08:42 pm
Never worked for an agency always been indie but paying to be registered with an agency is a scam as far as I'm concerned.
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: abangalf on 30 January 2015, 09:30:12 pm
Thank you for the advise there. Also, diamonduk was a damn obvious scam website as the guy who called me immediately asked for a starting fee.

This one is a bit different though since i have my profile made already it just needs to go live. So is there anyone whos familiar with the site at all please inform me. /
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: Midsstudent on 30 January 2015, 09:30:21 pm
I have worked for several agencies and the legit ones never ask for money upfront. They can make plenty of money off of selling you, they don't need a down payment if they are really bringing in bookings. Go indie is my advice.
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: Lady_Lust_XXX on 30 January 2015, 09:46:59 pm
NEVER pay an agency money, for after you do they will disappear and never answer their phones .... And you will NEVER get any work from them either.
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: abangalf on 30 January 2015, 10:00:52 pm
Alright. Looks like i wont be scammed thanks to you guys.
 Any advise on going indie and where to start?
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: alice842 on 30 January 2015, 10:13:27 pm
Hello Guys! I'm currently interested into being an escort and have been talking to an escort agency for about a week now.
It has progressed that I have to give them a ?200 registration fee. I just want to know if it's a scam or not since I really am need of money.

This is the website.

jewelsoflondon.net

Thank you for any help.



[Link edited to make non-clickable]

Any agency that asks for a joining fee is a scam (this applies outside of the adult industry as well) also several things on their website I noticed were a) spelling mistakes, b) claims of being one of the largest/most successful agency in the UK (never heard of them..) and c) not much info about what the escorts offer - if you look at some of the profiles it doesn't even say if the escorts are gay/straight/bi or what services they offer apart from 'hand holding' - why would any clients want to book if they don't even say what services are offered? It's either a scam or you won't get any bookings from them anyway.

Because escort agencies are illegal (they make a profit from someone else's sex work) there are no laws or guidelines that they need to adhere to. Anyone can put up a crappy website and claim to be one so do be careful and never trust an agency again - even a successful well-known one won't care much about your best interests, just their cut of the money.
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: amy on 30 January 2015, 10:22:33 pm
Alright. Looks like i wont be scammed thanks to you guys.
 Any advise on going indie and where to start?

Abangalf, I've just sat and watched as you read through at least some of the huge Straight Male Escorting thread plus two others that you could only have found by searching for similar keywords. The advice to posters on these threads is nothing if not clear.

Given that there is only one likely reason for you to have found these particular discussions, are you still asking or have I misunderstood and you just mistakenly came across them on the way to this thread? (http://www.saafe.info/main/index.php?topic=9442.0)
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: xw5 on 31 January 2015, 01:05:23 am
.. have been talking to an escort agency for about a week now.
..
jewelsoflondon.net

For anyone considering this bunch, regardless of whatever they say on the phone, as far as their terms and conditions are concerned, it's not an agency, it's a directory: you're paying several hundred pounds to advertise on the site. You can, unlike some scams, see the victims without being one yourself.

But what Amy says is, as ever, right: the SME thread tells you all you need to know about how much work you would get... wherever you advertise.
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: abangalf on 31 January 2015, 06:41:26 am
Amy thanks for your response, all of you have been very helpful.
Yes i have been reading the other straight male escorts as well but have pput up a post so that i get immediate replies while i lurk the forum and I did.

I am in need of money thats why i want to escort part time.
I will keep lurking the site for answers before i post again.
Your help is greatly appreciated.
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: amy on 31 January 2015, 08:42:15 am
Amy thanks for your response, all of you have been very helpful.
Yes i have been reading the other straight male escorts as well but have pput up a post so that i get immediate replies while i lurk the forum and I did.

I'm not quite following this but if you're saying you're happy to do men and realise there's no point hoping for female clients, then you should read the thread I linked to above. It's certainly the only way you'll ever get any work.

I am in need of money thats why i want to escort part time.

You had ?200 to give a scammer a few posts up the page, so that ought to start you off :).
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: abangalf on 01 February 2015, 08:46:36 am
Yes, i am happy to do male clients but would also like it if there are female clients you know! And i dont have 200 thats why i couldnt pay them.

Oh well, thanks for saving me, this forum is such a big help.
I will host a domain and hopefully be able to use saafe to promot it?
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: amy on 01 February 2015, 10:39:06 am
Yes, i am happy to do male clients but would also like it if there are female clients you know!

Well I'm sure there are lots of things we'd all like which aren't going to happen, but that's life.

YOh well, thanks for saving me, this forum is such a big help.
I will host a domain and hopefully be able to use saafe to promot it?

It's not quite clear what you mean here, but if you've decided to start up a hosting business which allows adult sites instead then you've got a far better chance of building a steady business than you ever will as a prostitute.

When you get your server, prices and website organised please do feel free to post an ad in the Spamming section. If it's any help, hosting costs me about twenty quid a year.
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: dboy1234 on 11 May 2015, 05:34:13 pm
Hi guys, im a student and i applied for plenty of jobs to get for the summer. I received a text saying ring me after 3pm, this is regarding a job. So i did. It turned out to be a guy running an escort agency, he told me how much money i would make and i could start today, so i have a few questions to ask:

He said i need to send him pictures of my face and body, which i'm happy to do, but is this a normal procedure?
He said he will take 25% commission and i will have to pay ?80 security fee. I asked him about the security fee and he said, Ill ring you at 7pm after you have sent the pictures to speak about it. Im assuming i will have to pay the ?80 first, and i am really hesitant on doing so because it could be a scam.

Thank you in advance guys!
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: amy on 11 May 2015, 05:44:43 pm
Don't send anybody face pictures, and don't give anybody any money until they have found you some work and you've earned some. The commission is ordinary, the 'security fee' is bollocks.

I'm only guessing, but if this man has told you you will get female clients or 'social' (non-sex) bookings (or anything else other than that to get work as a prostitute you'll need to be sexual with men), then that's all the proof you need even without the ripping off.
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: dboy1234 on 11 May 2015, 05:51:42 pm
Don't send anybody face pictures, and don't give anybody any money until they have found you some work and you've earned some. The commission is ordinary, the 'security fee' is bollocks.

I'm only guessing, but if this man has told you you will get female clients or 'social' (non-sex) bookings (or anything else other than that to get work as a prostitute you'll need to be sexual with men), then that's all the proof you need even without the ripping off.

thank you, I was jut about to send him face pictures. He also wants a description of me. He initially said i'd be working with a male but when i said i prefer a female, he said, ok done, immediately.
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: amy on 11 May 2015, 06:06:17 pm
If you were hoping to get work as a straight male escort (and male/female adults are men and women) you're wasting your time - all these people want to do is take your money and laugh at how gullible you are.

I'd suggest reading this thread (http://www.saafe.info/main/index.php?topic=408.0) while you work on your Plan B.
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: naty.oliveira on 20 May 2015, 04:16:25 pm
Recently I have decided to become an escort. I'm a 20 year old student. I was working in a shop earning 6.5 an hour and that was only consuming me, my time, and not paying my bills.
I am trying to raise money for my uni fees but with a regular job its being impossible even to feed myself properly.

So after much thought, I decided to get into this industry. But, I don't where to star and I don't know where to advertise myself. A friend of mine earns 5000 minimum per night (I know its not realistic). She's a model like me and extremely beautiful.
I am currently studying drama and economics, speak 4 languages fluently. I have proper education and dress up very classy.
I was thinking the best would be to have max 4-5 regular clients, more than that I think I wouldn't feel right.

Where can I go and what can I do to start? I have applied for this website called Elite Travel Girls today and I'm still waiting for a reply.

xx
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: Midsstudent on 20 May 2015, 04:21:36 pm
If you read http://www.saafe.info/ that will give you all the info you need.
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: xw5 on 20 May 2015, 04:41:39 pm
I merged your post with this one on the basis of seeing their refund policy ('ha ha ha' would be the three word version) but looking a bit more closely suggests that they might not actually charge you, the bait, for joining. I still don't think anyone gets much work from it though and most of the places promising ?lots are scams.

Where's your friend finding clients?

If she is actually getting that much, rather than just bullshitting, then the easiest thing to do would be to suggest she ask clients if they'd like her to bring a friend (you) for only an extra ?lots a night. If you are both bisexual, then you can spend much of the time being paid ?lots to be sexual with each other and if you're not, it's easy enough to fake...

Oh, yes, definitely read the main site.
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: anastasiastarr01 on 13 July 2015, 02:39:21 pm
Hi everyone,

I recently signed up to a non-sexual escort agency and I fear I may have very much fallen for a scam. I'm mainly concerned as they put my escort name at the top, but at the bottom of my bio my real name is there!! On top of this, I received a phone call from a different escort agency about registering with me - and I have no idea how they got my contact details and I'm guessing the original agency gave out my details, and this is a breach of contact.

I tried contacting the first agency for them to cancel my membership and remove my profile, but they haven't responded and I'm feeling very concerned, on top of the second agency that rung me being militant about my request to withdraw my application.

At this point, I just want to get rid of all my information online, especially where my photos and real name are!

Suggestions?

Thanks
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: xw5 on 13 July 2015, 02:50:56 pm
Yes, you have.

Once you've fallen for one bunch of scammers, others - often the same bunch using a different name - will see you as easy pickings. People do fall for the same thing multiple times.

I'm slightly surprised that the first lot won't remove your details, but it's possible that only you / very few others can see them: 'profiles' are often limited to 'other members'.

Which bunch was it?
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: anastasiastarr01 on 13 July 2015, 03:00:46 pm
I'm surprised too....I'm really hoping they're just being slow but do delete it at some point... I'm so paranoid now as there is no membership, it's completely public.

The agency was dukesofdaisy.com & the second was elegant-escorts.com


[link made non-clickable]
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: Naked Chef on 13 July 2015, 10:50:09 pm
Did you pay them any money?

I think it it most likely a scam. I got involved with one who claimed to be a "non-sexual escort" service and they wanted ?300 for the administration of creating my profile. Thankfully I realised it was a scam before paying them anything!
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: anastasiastarr01 on 13 July 2015, 11:10:23 pm
I did unfortunately, however I'm thankful it was only ?20. At this point I'm just praying they will take my personal information down....
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: Ngirozi on 14 July 2015, 06:23:35 pm
Hi beautiful people. There are agencies operating under the following names "elegantescorts.net" or elegant companions. They do not exist. Offering "non sexual escort service vacancies,they will encourage you upon your application to join immediately. Days later they will tell you several interests are after you and that you are going to make a lot of money. This is when they will request you pay advertising and mediation fees of up to ?350, which a witch operating under various names will assure you is NOTHING compared to how much you will make the following week after you have just TWO dates which she " has lined up". After paynent they send you a bogus contract. Once it clears,she will disappear. And a male companion of hers will call to say "date cancelled" and that's where that story ends. Now many may roll eyes and think "who'd be stupid enough to pay". A great many desperate women whose circumstances are such that risk taking overules logic. Putting it out here so that no sweethearts are conned by these sons of b******. I was naive to the utmost highest degree and paid a hefty price.
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: xw5 on 14 July 2015, 07:53:55 pm
I'm surprised too....I'm really hoping they're just being slow but do delete it at some point... I'm so paranoid now as there is no membership, it's completely public.

The agency was dukesofdaisy.com & the second was elegant-escorts.com

The first is moderately up front about the fact that it's really an ad site. As there's minimal demand for non-sexual escorting, the ad fees are going to be virtually all of their income.

The second is in Spanish because it's Mexican.. If it was -companions, they look a lot scammier.

On the plus side, they should take your details down after three months. If you tell them you intend to break their T&C, they may do it earlier.
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: alice842 on 14 July 2015, 10:55:28 pm
I think it it most likely a scam.

Any agency in any industry that asks you to pay money upfront is a scam.

If they are really an agency they will find you work and make their profit that way - there is no need for them to ask for an upfront payment for anything unless they are scamming you.
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: Beth10 on 28 July 2015, 10:58:50 pm
So glad I looked on here. Spoke to a woman today called Emily from elegantescorts.net.  She told me she had 3 interested clients and one wanted to meet me Saturday however she would need a ?340 advertising fee to get me signed up before I could go ahead. Something about this rang alarm bells in my head. I was told that they were a members club for millionaires which didn't seem to fit with their website. She didn't sound very professional and so I thought I'd do some digging. I found the identical site for Elegant companions and then googling more I found this thread.   Does anyone know of any reputable agencies?   I'd  be really grateful for some advice being new to this.   
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: Kay on 28 July 2015, 11:47:54 pm
Most of us would say avoid agencies and go indy.
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: xw5 on 29 July 2015, 09:43:09 am
Does anyone know of any reputable agencies?   I'd  be really grateful for some advice being new to this.

Non-scam agencies exist, but they all involve being sexual with men. As their income comes from this, agencies are usually less than fussy about who they will send your way.

So..

If you thought there's any market for non-sexual escorting, forget it. Anyone saying otherwise is just after your money.

If you are willing to do sex for cash, have a read of the main SAAFE.info site and let us know if you have any questions after that.
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: Aussie Male Escort on 01 August 2015, 03:41:37 pm
A caller this morning claiming to be from discreetescorts agency told me there was a female client wanting a 2 hour outcall tonight but I had to pay ?109.50 up front. I said I wouldn't be paying them anything until after the booking (as per the normal procedure for all legit agencies) and they said they'd give the booking to someone else (aka keep looking for an escort gullible enough to transfer ?100 plus to their fake ass agency for their make-believe booking scam). Another male escort had the same call and also realised it was a scam and called the number on the dicreetescorts website and was told it wasn't them making the calls. The number they called from was 0778890****
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: kamila on 10 October 2015, 01:06:33 am
Hello
Would like to know your opinion on this: escort agency director wants to "try me out" for a fee (a booking) before he can reccomend me to client.. Is that normal?
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: Mirror on 10 October 2015, 08:27:52 am
Hello
Would like to know your opinion on this: escort agency director wants to "try me out" for a fee (a booking) before he can reccomend me to client.. Is that normal?

This might be something some agencies do but you don't have to do it. 
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: Roxy101 on 10 October 2015, 09:02:51 am
Hello
Would like to know your opinion on this: escort agency director wants to "try me out" for a fee (a booking) before he can reccomend me to client.. Is that normal?

I wouldn't. That's completely unprofessional on his behalf unless he's going to pay you full price for your services. Otherwise it's just a sad, old man trying to not only make money off girls but also trying to get a free/discounted f***. Men like this make me mad. I've known people who have joined an agency and been told at the last second that they have to do this, and it always ends up the same way if they go ahead. It ends up being a Micky mouse run agency by a pervert trying to also get his end away.

In the long run it's up to you, but I personally wouldn't.
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: Midsstudent on 10 October 2015, 05:03:37 pm
Hello
Would like to know your opinion on this: escort agency director wants to "try me out" for a fee (a booking) before he can reccomend me to client.. Is that normal?

I wouldn't because it sets a precedent for your relationship with him and he might start expecting freebies. It's no wonder agencies are illegal, they're all so scummy. Everybody should go indie.
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: cheekyj on 12 November 2015, 10:34:51 pm
Hi All,

very new to this so apologies if this is a silly question.

I registered to be a non sexual escort and the agency is being a little vague. They've said after they took all my details and told me i had a booking that i needed to pay an advertising cost for a 12 month contract. When you sign up with an agency how do you know if once you've paid they wont run off with my money? Also is there a place online i can read reviews on agencies?

Thanks your advice would be so much appreciated.
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: xw5 on 12 November 2015, 10:41:59 pm
They will run off with your money! It's a scam because there's almost no market for non-sexual escorting.

I'll merge this with the bigger thread on this in a minute, but congratulations on not paying them. Which bunch was it?
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: makaveli on 02 December 2015, 09:08:47 pm
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[Edited to censor mobile numbers/name and remove bank details, merged with appropriate thread.]
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: 05lscarlett on 26 January 2016, 10:14:40 am
Hey, I have recently been scammed by premier escort! Do not go near it! I'm so annoyed at myself for being so trusting and stupid! After ha if read all the advice on here I know 100% that I've been scammed. I stupidly paid the "agency" ?280 of my own money for an "advertising fee" and that was meant to be their lower cost!! She told me I would earn this back in a couple hours! I'm so annoyed I fell for this, the woman on the phone sounded nice and told me that I had 3 men lined up for dates and even gave me their names, ages and the name of a nice restrarunt near me that they would meet me at. Her number was blocked which is a tell tale sign but I was so caught up in wanting this tale to be real that I fell for it! Does anyone know if there's a way I could get my ?280 back?! I'm a student and really needed the money and told her this, how heartless can people be?! I had really got my hopes up that this would be a way I could make some money, does anyone know of any non sexual escorting agencies that aren't scams?! Any help would be appreciated! Thanks!
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: BibiofLeeds on 26 January 2016, 10:33:33 am
Hey, I have recently been scammed by premier escort! Do not go near it! I'm so annoyed at myself for being so trusting and stupid! After ha if read all the advice on here I know 100% that I've been scammed. I stupidly paid the "agency" ?280 of my own money for an "advertising fee" and that was meant to be their lower cost!! She told me I would earn this back in a couple hours! I'm so annoyed I fell for this, the woman on the phone sounded nice and told me that I had 3 men lined up for dates and even gave me their names, ages and the name of a nice restrarunt near me that they would meet me at. Her number was blocked which is a tell tale sign but I was so caught up in wanting this tale to be real that I fell for it! Does anyone know if there's a way I could get my ?280 back?! I'm a student and really needed the money and told her this, how heartless can people be?! I had really got my hopes up that this would be a way I could make some money, does anyone know of any non sexual escorting agencies that aren't scams?! Any help would be appreciated! Thanks!
In all likeliness you won't get your money back love.And no there isn't any non sexual agencies about because escorting is basically a euphemism for sex work. Maybe once in a blue moon a bloke might book for a non sexual meet but this is as rare as rocking horse poo.Basically blokes are booking for nookie of some kind.
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: Riverprice on 14 March 2016, 02:01:20 pm
Heya, I was wondering if anyone had heard or was part of Blue Chips Escort agency ? I've bErm chatting with them but there is a fee(350 for the year, which you make it back in a booking ) just was a little cautious xxx
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: BibiofLeeds on 14 March 2016, 02:29:29 pm
Heya, I was wondering if anyone had heard or was part of Blue Chips Escort agency ? I've bErm chatting with them but there is a fee(350 for the year, which you make it back in a booking ) just was a little cautious xxx
No genuine agency takes a fee from you to be on their books.Its a scam.All that will happen is they will take the fee tell you about bookings and then these bookings will sadly cancel..because they never existed basically.You may as well send anybody 350 randomnly as anybody can promise you whatever.
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: Jazell on 19 March 2016, 07:15:27 pm
Hi I'm new to all of this but I'm in need of cash. I typed in "none sexual escorting" in to google and was able to apply to be an escort very easy.
I had a telephone call a day later and to cut a long story short they have said that they have a client for me but I have to pay for a years advertising fee which is ?395 per year. I explained that there's noway I could pay that so "Maddison" said that I could pay half for 6 months which would be ?200.

I have got the cash in my bank but it's my childcare money so I any afford to lose it in a big scam.

So basically I'm asking for anybody's advice on premier-escorts .co.uk.
Has anybody ever come across them before? Are they genuine? 
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: englishrebecca121 on 19 March 2016, 07:37:01 pm
NEVER PAY ANYONE

THERE WEBSITE IS fake as fu*k

look likr pics taken randomly from internet
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: Jezabel on 19 March 2016, 07:41:00 pm
Also there is no such thing as 'non sex escorting' I'm afraid. Any 'agency' that says so is lying.

To be an escort you will have to be intimate/perform sexual acts.
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: Jazell on 19 March 2016, 07:49:50 pm
So glad I didn't pay the money!! Can anyone recommend a good agency then please? obviously I'd of liked to have done the none sexual (well the way they sold it to me anyway) but I'll do what I have to do. I'm based in Nottingham but I can travel and tbh I'd probably rather travel.
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: englishrebecca121 on 20 March 2016, 01:58:40 am
agencys are rubbish set up and adultwork page x
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: Nova on 20 March 2016, 12:34:40 pm
You won't find much love for agencies here. Most of us are independents.
There are loads of threads on how to start out as an indie. Try some searches and see what you think.
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: Gracious on 22 March 2016, 11:33:26 pm
Why isnt this thread a sticky?!?!
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: Fabulassie on 23 March 2016, 09:10:23 am
If you would rather not have sex for money, then I really don't recommend it.
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: charliebabeyx on 15 April 2016, 02:32:59 pm
hello
i live in london and i want to apply to these websites but is it a real agency? they want id and everything
also does anyone else have any agencies for me which are real that i can apply to? to become an escort porn star or cam model in the uk and what fees do they have thanks.



[title edited to remove agency names - please don't post these here]
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: amy on 15 April 2016, 02:43:59 pm
We don't encourage agency work here, but people can PM you if they have any ideas.

The general advice for choosing an agency if you really want to employ one is that anywhere wanting to take money from you before you have done any work is a scam. That doesn't mean the rest are any good, though :).
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: charliebabeyx on 15 April 2016, 03:04:03 pm
okay thanks just need to see if these are real agencies or not x and need someone to help me get into something sex work type
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: Nia Hope on 15 April 2016, 03:10:28 pm
I know some good parlours in East London where I've worked from, agencies have always been a pain in the arse for me x
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: charliebabeyx on 15 April 2016, 03:33:52 pm
Could you send me some more information about these parlors if thats okay?
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: xw5 on 15 April 2016, 03:58:46 pm
I haven't looked at the second one, but the first one seems more aimed at getting the owner off than anything else - there's quite a bit about him joining in and more about what he personally doesn't like (women over size 16 and men...)
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: naina on 01 May 2016, 02:42:06 pm
PLEASE DO NOT PAY A PENNY TO PREMIER ESCORTS. THEY ARE A FAKE COMPANY AND I HAVE REPORTED THEM TO ACTION FRAUD. I HAVE LOST ?200. PLEASE BE CAREFUL AND NEVER SEND ANY PAYMENTS TO THESE SO CALLED COMPANIES. THEY TAKE ADVANTAGE OF YOUR SITUATION AND MAKE YOU THINK THAT YOU ARE GOING TO EARN LOTS. THE ONLY ONES THAT EARN ANYTHING IS THESE BASTARDS WHEN THEY RUN OFF WITH YOUR MONEY..YOUR BANK WILL NOT REIMBURSE YOU FOR THIS LOSS AS IT YOUR OWN FAULT. BASICALLY, DON'T GET CARRIED AWAY LIKE I DID AND BE SO NAIIVE. I LOST COMMON SENSE AND WAS CAUGHT UP IN THE MOMENT. REMEMBER, THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A FREE LUNCH. IF SOMETHING IS TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE, IT USUALLY IS. 'MADDISON' THE PERSON I SPOKE TO SEEMED SO NICE, BUT THESE PEOPLE ARE EXPERIENCED CON ARTISTS AND KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THEY ARE DOING. I WANTED TO SHARE MY EXPERIENCE AS I DONT WANT ANYONE ELSE TO BE A VICTIM OF THESE SCAMS.
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: kaizeris on 12 May 2016, 09:10:59 am
Hey there,

Just wondering if anyone had any experience with "BlueChip Escorts" agency?. They too good to be true or maybe Im paranoid.
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: xw5 on 12 May 2016, 02:30:49 pm
Scam.

As they're not open about there being a charge to the wannabe escorts, the way that only 'members' can see the ads and the 'I am a single Gent in my mid 50?s. Am I to (sic) old? / No you are not too old at all. We have escorts of all ages and races who are frequently booked by our clients.' in the FAQ are big clues.

I'm amused by the 'What happens if the (imaginary) client cancels at the last minute or doesn?t turn up? / You will still be paid your full booking fee in this unlikely event' answer, but it's more proof they're not genuine.

Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: Curvygal on 12 May 2016, 02:54:07 pm

I'm amused by the 'What happens if the (imaginary) client cancels at the last minute or doesn?t turn up? / You will still be paid your full booking fee in this unlikely event' answer, but it's more proof they're not genuine.

If only!  ;D
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: Aussie Male Escort on 26 May 2016, 02:11:12 pm
I've been contacted 3 times over the last year or so by a (presumably fake) agency saying they're  DiscreetEscorts and they have a job for me but I have to pay ?100 up front. They tried it on again the other day. Each time I said no, I'll pay your commission after the job, and each time they've come back months later to try again so I guess they're spamming these messages out to hundreds of escorts and catching out the unwary ie the jobs are completely fictional and they're just keeping the ?100. Their number is 0778890**** which brings up a few scam agency warnings if you google it.

I mentioned them in this thread in August last year.

Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: Dani345 on 02 July 2016, 03:02:05 pm
Hi  :)

I'm a 21 year old living and working in London but I'm looking to make some extra money as a non sexual escort. I'm wondering if anyone here could recommend a good legitimate agency or maybe some tips on how to get started? I strictly want to stick to non sexual work such as attending events and offering companionship on dates.

I'd also be more than happy to meet up with someone in London for a chat about all of this if you're up for it.

Thanks!  ;D
Dani
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: Fabulassie on 02 July 2016, 03:18:35 pm
I'm sorry to say that there's no market for this.

Any agency promising such is lying.

If you don't want to have sex for money, then a "normal" job is your best bet.

Perhaps Web camming.
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: BibiofLeeds on 02 July 2016, 06:09:41 pm
There is no such thing as a Non Sexual escort.Even if you go out with clients for dinner dates or the theatre they will be expecting some sort of sexy time as part of the deal.
The only agencies that would accept a non sexual escort onto theirs books would be the scam type of agencies that will ask for money up front.
If you have no interest in touching willies for money then escorting isn't for you.As well as webcamming you could consider phone chat but again you will be doing something sexual either talking dirty or playing with yourself for money.
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: TrashAzn on 02 July 2016, 06:28:16 pm
Nobody is going to pay you a ton of money just to hang out on a date with them. Even those rich sugar daddy types who you might hang around with at dinners and events as a companion are expecting sex as part of the deal. They aren't paying for your company they are paying for a fantasy. Some agencies will advertise it as just companionship but it's still implied and known that sex is part of the deal any that says you won't have to have sex with clients and they won't expect it is lying to you.
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: barbie88 on 02 July 2016, 09:03:12 pm
Like the other ladies said Hun there's no such thing all tho there are loads of scam London agencies around claiming there clients just want company then charging the girls hundreds to join these are just scams Hun .

You could could offer dom service only and state you don't have sex on the profile or you could just do webcam .

I had a few dinner dates over the the years but they always wanted sex after . Or you can try webcam Hun . X
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: xw5 on 03 July 2016, 09:18:35 am
Merged with lots of other examples.

If you want to go to events etc, you are looking for promotions work i.e. handing out samples or being drapped over cars, not hanging on to someone's elbow.
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: LexiWulf on 21 July 2016, 11:35:35 am

HI x
I have been looking for some social only escorting (what happens after the job is between me and the client *wink wink* )
I emailed a few and was instantly rejected due to being a larger lass.

i got a reply from camelotcompanions.com and had a lovely phone call with one of the two "receptionists"  and was told there is a signing up fee, which they offered to lower since im moving to the states in a  few months.

but im concerned, is it a scam? they want my money up front, in exchange i get paid 60-160 gbp an hour minimum 3 hour bookings all within 20 miles of my home, but i have to make my own way there and they dont take a percentage..?


anyone here had an experiences with them? they are emnt to be a uk company but a domain search shows it was set up neer new york?
could be a scam ro they paid someone form there to make the site i just dont know and dont feel comfortable putting money down when things are pretty tight for me when im a littler nervous about it being a scam!


dose anyone have any recommendations for social only (the kind where only social meetups are guaranteed) for a lass whos temporarily staying in surrey and could use the cash?

Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: Nova on 21 July 2016, 11:42:27 am
I thought this would be moved here.
Anyone wanting money up front is a con artist.
Welcome to SAAFE!

Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: mature helen on 21 July 2016, 11:43:27 am
Scam, never pay up front to join an agency.
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: amy on 21 July 2016, 11:46:08 am
Yes, I've merged it in here - I think this lot have been mentioned before :).

LW, 'social' escorting is a myth. If you're not prepared to be sexual with men for money (and this doesn't necessarily mean actual shagging - plenty of people don't) then 'escorting' is not for you.

I've said it before, but this is another reason that of all the stupid euphemisms we hear daily I think 'escort' is the stupidest ::).
Title: What companies are a scam help???
Post by: Kinnie86 on 08 September 2016, 12:58:11 pm
Hi there been contacted by blue chip entertaining and really worried as to if it is legit please can anyone help thank you .
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: xw5 on 08 September 2016, 01:08:36 pm
I've moved this to here - basically, any 'agency' asking for money upfront before you have cash in your hand from a client is a scam, no matter what excuses they give for asking for it.
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: Mimil on 12 September 2016, 06:52:17 am
I'd really appreciate it if someone could pm me some agencies/parlours in London. I've seen so many ads on Cl, Backpage etc. but I don't want to go down that route and end up in a bad situation. I am new to escorting (a few months) and have seen a few clients independently, but at this point I'd really prefer not to do it alone. I understand that an agency takes 30/40% for something I could do myself, I just need the consistency right now. I also prefer for someone else to deal with my bookings for me.

Title: Getting started...
Post by: Ivychameleon on 25 November 2016, 02:45:18 pm
Hi I would like to get into the industry though have no idea how to start...Diamond jobs international have asked me for ?250 my gut says run...any idea how I can get started please.
Title: Re: Getting started...
Post by: LadyOfTheNight on 25 November 2016, 03:06:35 pm
Please be careful its probably a scam, look at this thread:

http://www.saafe.info/main/index.php?topic=385.0

And read the main site www.saafe.info

Any other questions come back and ask.
Title: Re: Getting started...
Post by: Kay on 25 November 2016, 03:40:46 pm
Never pay an agency - they should be working for you. As LOTN says read all the site, not just the forum. Try and go indie, even if you can only do out-calls initially, or book hotel rooms for in-calls.
Title: Re: Getting started...
Post by: TrashAzn on 26 November 2016, 03:12:12 pm
Don't give anyone money up front for anything, an agency is a pimp operating through legal loopholes and you are giving them a cut of your takings for getting you bookings and in some cases transporting you. You don't work for them or owe them anything.
Title: Re: Getting started...
Post by: Lola xxx on 26 November 2016, 10:01:59 pm
I'm pretty new too. I've only been working over 2 weeks. The great thing I've learnt here is to not or be extremely wary of agencies. I'm takin big advice advice and just st working on building my aw profile and eventually image xxx
Title: non sexual escort service
Post by: Remirayne on 14 March 2017, 02:30:01 pm
HI everyone!

i have been reading quite a bit online about people saying non sexual escorts just isnt real and its a scam, but i have seen many other articles saying it isnt a scam, the problem is i havent seen anywhere reviews or credit backing these companies up that i have found
i was wondering if anyone knew about these particular agencies and if they really practice what they advertise

house of ladies (no fees at all, sign up, and have a skype or msn interview)
occasions (?20 background check fee and website fee, allow 7 days for processing)
companion directory (have not seen any fees listed for joining)

Thanks !

Title: Re: non sexual escort service
Post by: VoluptuousCurves on 14 March 2017, 07:24:09 pm
 :FF
Title: Re: non sexual escort service
Post by: mature helen on 14 March 2017, 07:34:39 pm
Cant help you as we are all prostitutes here. I cant believe in this day and age non sexual escorting along with straight male escort companies are still able to get people to part with their money.
Give them ?20 and see how much work you get... ;D
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: xw5 on 14 March 2017, 07:53:59 pm
Any 'agency' wanting any money from you before you have cash in your hand from a client is a scam, no matter what the excuse for it is.

Companion has been mentioned here before, possibly even in this thread. I can't remember where their 'please send the money' comes, but see paragraph one.
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: tazmanas on 11 April 2017, 10:14:56 am
hi, in my mobile i have this message:

HI VITALLY THIS IS YOUR REFERENCE NUMBER 7121770 PLEASE KEEP SAFE AND PUT WITH ALL EMAIL AND YOUR PAYMENT WE BANK WITH LLOYDS BANK ACCOUNT NAME DIAMOND UK HOSTING ACCOUNT NUMBER 289831** AND SORT CODE 30-99-97 PAYMENT ?380 BEST REGARDS SIMON LONDON OFFICE 020711216** FULL T&Cs ONLINE


sombady have a job here?
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: xw5 on 11 April 2017, 10:18:53 am
Scam if an 'agency', appallingly expensive if doing website hosting.

Any 'agency' wanting any money from you before you have cash in your hand from a client is a scam.
Title: Re: non sexual escort service
Post by: wishlist on 11 April 2017, 08:31:59 pm
:FF

HI everyone!

i have been reading quite a bit online about people saying non sexual escorts just isnt real and its a scam, but i have seen many other articles saying it isnt a scam, the problem is i havent seen anywhere reviews or credit backing these companies up that i have found
i was wondering if anyone knew about these particular agencies and if they really practice what they advertise

house of ladies (no fees at all, sign up, and have a skype or msn interview)
occasions (?20 background check fee and website fee, allow 7 days for processing)
companion directory (have not seen any fees listed for joining)

Thanks !



my thoughts exactly....there isnt such a thing, there are websites on unicorns, dosnt make them real
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: tazmanas on 13 April 2017, 02:23:18 pm
hi, in my mobile i have this message:

HI VITALLY THIS IS YOUR REFERENCE NUMBER 7121770 PLEASE KEEP SAFE AND PUT WITH ALL EMAIL AND YOUR PAYMENT WE BANK WITH LLOYDS BANK ACCOUNT NAME DIAMOND UK HOSTING ACCOUNT NUMBER 289831** AND SORT CODE 30-99-97 PAYMENT ?380 BEST REGARDS SIMON LONDON OFFICE 020711216** FULL T&Cs ONLINE


sombady have a job here?


Look every body, I have a new message:

Hi

Sorry no that will not happen you must pay something before i can put
your profile online but can be flexible

Let me know by tomorrow

Regards

Simon

--
London office 020711216**

Manchester office 016124120**

diamonduk
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: SweetAngel on 13 April 2017, 08:45:21 pm
I had this high end offer from "agency" without site. The guy told me that from hr I get nearly ?500 and from overnight I get over 3.5k. All good BUT he found for me a "client" (no site, he has huge database) the same night without any pictures. He told me that I have to book and pay for hotel room for this client because I am new and new girls have to book by themselfs hotel rooms or flats so they don't dissapear as the "client" pays via bank transfer deposit. Of course they will refund you the money for the room. So he wanted me to book room somewhere 30 miles out of London.... I just wished him all the best.
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: Curvygal on 14 April 2017, 09:56:34 pm

Look every body, I have a new message:

Hi

Sorry no that will not happen you must pay something before i can put
your profile online but can be flexible

Let me know by tomorrow

Regards

Simon

--
London office 020711216**

Manchester office 016124120**

diamonduk


I'm not sure if you're asking for advice or just showing us the messages doing the rounds - if you are asking for advice then don't pay him anything or reply to him again.  I searched on google for them and couldn't find anything....no legit agency ask for fees to join, they take commission once you have done each booking (I'm not saying that makes them any good, however).
Title: Re: The big scam agency thread
Post by: tazmanas on 19 April 2017, 02:52:40 pm
I'm just stop talking with this person. This forum help to me. No money straight. Only after