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Re: Secure Down Payment Service For Independent Escorts
« Reply #15 on: 11 June 2015, 06:10:21 pm »
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Also wanted to give you a heads up that PayPal don't allow you to use their service to pay for any sexual services in the UK (unless they have changed it very recently) so not too sure how you would get around that.

Thanks for the heads-up, did spoke to Paypal today actually, their concern is accepting payments on the platform, but they are OK with the us using their transfer feature with our API, it is something we are debating right now.

I should stress that the service will not allow users to advertise on the platform, however, users can create a profile, access their account history, pending transfers and so on.

Regarding evidence: email, text, what's app and so on, normally comes with date and time attached to them, travel tickets, etc. Safety tips will also be posted on the site to help users retain evidence for processing should something goes wrong.


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I personally wouldn't use your service.

If I am ever going to travel a long way just to do one booking, I will ask the guy for a deposit myself. I simply open my mouth and say, 'I'd like a 50% deposit please', either paid into my aw account or if he's not from aw, I'll give him my account number so he can transfer it over.

Easy peasy and I don't have to pay a pimp for the privilege of getting my money (minus 5%) several days after the booking did or didn't take place.

If a client is not willing to pay me a deposit then he's either a time waster or doesn't trust me, I can't imagine why he would trust a third party more than the person he's actually doing business with.

Idea sounds quite dodgy to be honest with you.

Thanks for your review foxy roxy, my team and I have taken it on-board.

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Re: Secure Down Payment Service For Independent Escorts
« Reply #16 on: 11 June 2015, 06:30:25 pm »
If we can't advertise on the 'platform', how is anybody going to know that the person claiming to be us (to whom they're being asked to send money despite having never seen us in person) actually is us? Anybody could set up an account claiming to be me - it's not as if any of us work under our legal names, and I doubt very much anybody is going to be sending you their personal information any more than we would any other random internet strangers.

I can see why you thought it would be a good idea (and I'm sure your 'team' think it's great too), but it's doomed because it's superfluous. As has already been posted ad nauseum, there are already ways to get upfront deposits if we need them, none of them involve giving aforementioned random internet strangers money and for the rest, why would we want to lose 5% of our earnings and have to wait for the rest when we can just take a phone booking, have a punter turn up within the hour, pay us, punt and bog off again with everybody having got what they wanted?

If you're travelling hundreds of miles without any payment upfront to cover at least your expenses if not your travel time, more fool you. An awful lot of being successful in business isn't patting yourself on the back for the things you get right, it's recognising and pinpointing where you're going wrong and being self-aware enough to do something about it.

you would be better off starting your own escort agency, at least you have a chance, if you do your research regarding screening,  safety, advertising, marketing,  drivers   etc however this is just my opinion. There are too many things that could go wrong with your current idea.

To be fair, as crap as the above idea is, it's still better than encouraging yet another clueless pimp to start yet another bloody useless agency. As for fewer things potentially going wrong, most people would count winding up in court being prosecuted for controlling prostitution for gain and having all their assets seized and their bank accounts frozen under POCA a fairly bad day at the office.

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Re: Secure Down Payment Service For Independent Escorts
« Reply #17 on: 12 June 2015, 12:41:58 am »
Sorry OP, but I think your idea is bonkers.
"There is no sin except stupidity" - Oscar Wilde

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Re: Secure Down Payment Service For Independent Escorts
« Reply #18 on: 15 June 2015, 06:12:48 pm »
If you find some time, feel free to have a look at Q40. "Limited Network Exclusion" of the FSA website. Since the service is only available to a closed group for a specific service, it does fall under the exception rules.

I'm not arguing about the rules, but it's going to look a bit better if you got the name of the organisation right. The FSA was abolished two years ago.

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Escorts rely on trusting strangers so things like that do happen to the best of us.

There's being trusting and there's being gullible. There is no shortage of black male escorts in London and while it's obviously flattering for someone to want you to travel there, they can pay - at least - the costs of that travel up front.

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This is where we will do most of the work, I did mention, a user rating system, it will be similar to eBay's. Our terms which all users would have to agree to will allow us to carry out any investigation related to booking.

Investigation = work for you, and you'll still be faced with one person saying it happened and one saying it didn't. If you automatically go with the one with the highest rating, there's no incentive for anyone new to use it..

.. and a big one to game the system by having some fake ratings. I've just decided I'll have some clients paying one quid deposit. Oh look, I've just got ten positive ratings for the cost of 50p.

(There's no incentive anyway, because perfectly usable - better! - ways to get a deposit already exist.)

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PS... I know the idea sounds insane, but technology is moving forward and escort should be using it to their advantage, apart from you guys no one really cares about us, so we have to look out for each other right?

And sometimes, that involves saying 'give up this idea now' - this is one of those times.

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Any Ideas for the website name?

Something you can use for something else ;D

10/10 to Ian picking up on my trick question - you unfortunately didn't.  You do seem to be slightly more clued up and with it than I initially thought, but I still wouldn't use your service I'm afraid.

What concerns me most I guess is this element of the client saying the booking didn't go ahead and getting a refund.  What proof or evidence could you possibly be wanting to collect?  If I go from Scotland to London on an overnight booking tonight, and the guy says tomorrow I didn't turn up, I say I did, could you talk me through how you would deal with this?  We have the same number of points on your ratings system.

What would you do, what evidence would you look for and how would you conclude?

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Re: Secure Down Payment Service For Independent Escorts
« Reply #19 on: 19 June 2015, 09:48:16 pm »
How do texts, messages and whatsapp show if a client or an escort is a no show? How could you possibly prove you turned up?

You haven't given any real examples of how you could prove chargebacks because honestly, I don't think it's possible. You're opening yourself up to huge scams. As a new site you would have entirely new customers... so who would you trust? And as others have said it is open to ratings abuse.

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Re: Secure Down Payment Service For Independent Escorts
« Reply #20 on: 26 September 2015, 12:33:28 am »
Slightly old thread but in case this is still going I'm wondering why no one has mentioned the big obvious concern with this one., MONEY LAUNDERING REGULATIONS