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Re: New site for Escorts and punters to advertise and find each other
« Reply #30 on: 10 July 2015, 09:35:31 pm »
Right I get the picture now. I see why there is offence taken. Well I am sincerely sorry about that and I assure you we don't intend on meddling with people's business but as developers gathering requirements is a habit and we were asked by an escort in conversation to not allow this and we assumed thats what all escorts wanted. We should have done more research in hindsight.

We are simply trying to make something that you'd like to use. In one of my opening posts I did say we'd be happy to change things to suit the community. I'm hoping it is not us that drives the decisions but you. After all we want you to use it.

xw5 - thanks for the advice, particularly going straight to webcam - that has been considered. But I don't think its the right attitude to accept defeat to a bigger more dominating entity without even trying. Without competition none of the sites will get any better. We'll just have to agree to disagree on this one.

Lucie268 thanks for the positive feedback, much appreciated.

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« Reply #31 on: 10 July 2015, 10:04:38 pm »
My usual example is eBay. It's dominant in certain sectors but even though it's not hard to have a better auction site, there is no point in throwing money away to try and beat it because what it does have can't be bought cheaply.

Unless and until one of the big directories stops being 'good enough', any new one is throwing its time and money away. Especially if it's not going to directly generate cash.
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« Reply #32 on: 10 July 2015, 10:59:44 pm »

We are simply trying to make something that you'd like to use. In one of my opening posts I did say we'd be happy to change things to suit the community. I'm hoping it is not us that drives the decisions but you. After all we want you to use it.

xw5 - thanks for the advice, particularly going straight to webcam - that has been considered. But I don't think its the right attitude to accept defeat to a bigger more dominating entity without even trying. Without competition none of the sites will get any better. We'll just have to agree to disagree on this one.


Ian's advice is spot on, of course, but if you're going to keep working on it anyway, I think what your saying is bloody brilliant. I'd love a nicer looking, easier to use AW. There's enough grumbles about the way that site works to make me think few, if any, of us think it couldn't be improved.

IU have serious doubts you'll be successful, but if you are and you keep the same helpful attitude (which is probably even less likely,) then surely that can only be a good thing.

I'll create a profile, to show my support of the theory behind it if nothing else.

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« Reply #33 on: 11 July 2015, 01:53:26 am »
All monopolistic influence and power ends eventually.  You really need to make yourself stand out from the rest and the best. What will exactly differentiate you from other similar sites that have come on here ? What is going to grab not only our attention, but punters attention too, to make us want to go there? Punters need to be enticed..........if you can grab punters with something original and unique and user friendly then you will be laughing all the way to the bank.     I tell you one thing that the AW doesnt have........thats good customer service  and a help desk phone line. If  a site could rival aw and provide 5* customer service that would be heaven to providers.

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« Reply #34 on: 11 July 2015, 06:20:03 am »
Cece thanks for the support, look forward to seeing you on there. If there is anything you think needs changing or if you have suggestions I'd love to hear them.

Sugar, I agree with everything you say. Particularly your opening sentence, I mean before Facebook there was MySpace. 5* customer service is what we would strive to achieve but realistically we cannot provide help desk support yet simply because we aren't that far along yet. When established there will definitely be a phone number to call to get help (and the person on the other end WILL be friendly and helpful). For now there is a contact form, which will be responded to ASAP.


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« Reply #35 on: 11 July 2015, 09:15:39 am »
MySpace,* for reasons that should have been obvious to everyone who used it, stopped being 'good enough' so people switched to another site. It is likely that people will abandon the evil that is Facebook at some point, but I am not investing a pile of money in creating an alternative. Google's ability to waste billions in trying to do so is down to producing good search results quickly at the moment that the previous leader jumped the shark and tried to 'go portal', otherwise the people would say 'just AltaVista it'.

In this context, being a bit prettier than AW is not enough and you'll need very deep pockets to last until you can have a hope of getting what they have: numbers. Even if AW do commit suicide, you still need to hope that it's your directory, rather than one of the hundred or so others, that accidentally gets lucky.

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« Reply #36 on: 11 July 2015, 01:45:59 pm »
Midsstudent,

Well, I say eliminate but I mean more minimise. Of course you will never really get rid of time-wasters but I think minimising the impact they can have is the key. I have a few ideas but still designing it. For example, you can choose to only show you phone number to members who have got more than x amount of feedback. Therefore minimising the chance you will get a phone call from a time-waster.

If you want to call it 'just copy' i'm not going to argue. But I cannot deny the similarities and some inspiration does come from them. Anyone set out to do anything in this space would be foolish not to take into account their significant presence in the industry. However i am looking past them and into the future, hoping to innovate the industry through software. We are after all profession web developers as opposed to adult industry experts but we are learning and hoping to learn more from you to give you what you need.

Midsstudent, are you an escort? You don't seem very impressed with us, is there something we can do to change that?

So new members or even clients booking for a one off won't be able to call an escort? It just means they won't end up using your website, they will go get the girls number off AW instead.

If you read the posts in the AW section of this forum you will find the majority of us don't use the AW booking form (I do, but I am one of the few) and pretty much always take their bookings by phone, meaning no feedback exchanged. And if you read the punter forums you will find a lot of punters who don't like using online bookings either.

I am an escort and so far I'm not impressed because you are basically a baby adultwork. Show me some original thought and I might be impressed.

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« Reply #37 on: 11 July 2015, 05:11:45 pm »

Currently bareback is the only service prohibited

For me (as an escort who does not offer bareback, and who does not want to be approached by clients looking for unprotected sex) it is a terrible idea not to offer bareback as an option on your site. As you have already admitted some service seekers will still look for it, and some service providers will still offer it regardless of your attempts at censorship!

By not offering a bareback option all you will achieve is to ensure that girls like me (who don't offer it) will be endlessly hassled by guys who are seeking this service. Because clients on your site will have no way of differentiating between the girls that DON'T want to do it, and the girls that DO do it but aren't allowed to be seen to be offering it, it means we will all be subject to constant begging requests for bareback. Why not just offer it as an option so that the people that like it can identify and find each other, and those that don't can be left free of millions of "but do you REALLY do bareback" type messages?



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« Reply #38 on: 11 July 2015, 06:22:19 pm »

Currently bareback is the only service prohibited

For me (as an escort who does not offer bareback, and who does not want to be approached by clients looking for unprotected sex) it is a terrible idea not to offer bareback as an option on your site. As you have already admitted some service seekers will still look for it, and some service providers will still offer it regardless of your attempts at censorship!

By not offering a bareback option all you will achieve is to ensure that girls like me (who don't offer it) will be endlessly hassled by guys who are seeking this service. Because clients on your site will have no way of differentiating between the girls that DON'T want to do it, and the girls that DO do it but aren't allowed to be seen to be offering it, it means we will all be subject to constant begging requests for bareback. Why not just offer it as an option so that the people that like it can identify and find each other, and those that don't can be left free of millions of "but do you REALLY do bareback" type messages?

Deeeeeefinitely. I mean, all of us who don't offer bareback get asked if we do enough already. It's also been discussed before that some escorts and clients want to see who offers bareback so they can avoid them.

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« Reply #39 on: 11 July 2015, 10:49:47 pm »
OK, I'm very surprised. I just Googled "Chester Escorts" and guess who was in 6th position on the 1st page? :o Yup, these guys! As I've already posted a reply in this thread it caught my attention. I am logged into my Google account, but I've never actually seen the site. Pretty sure I've never even typed it's name anywhere. Is it just a clever trick that won't last more than a day or so? From what I've read in this thread it doesn't sound like the site is even fully functional yet.

It may sound like I'm trying to promote them, but I swear I've got no links to them whatsoever. I'm just curious as to whether they may be on to something after all, or if I'm just really tired and not thinking straight?

Best of luck anyway, and I will be creating that profile for definite now!

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« Reply #40 on: 12 July 2015, 11:16:49 am »
Given that they don't actually have anyone near Chester from what I can see, it will doubtless go when their ad budget does. But if it works for you, yippee.

For the banning people saying 'bareback', if the site did do it and won the lottery and became successful, people would just call it something else.
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« Reply #41 on: 13 July 2015, 09:47:59 am »

I am an escort and so far I'm not impressed because you are basically a baby adultwork. Show me some original thought and I might be impressed.

Fair enough. Hopefully you will think we have some original thoughts over time.

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« Reply #42 on: 13 July 2015, 09:50:42 am »
So new members or even clients booking for a one off won't be able to call an escort? It just means they won't end up using your website, they will go get the girls number off AW instead.

Its up to you what you do with your profile. You can set it so that everyone can see your number or you can set it so its members only, or members with x amount of ratings. So its entirely up to you.

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« Reply #43 on: 13 July 2015, 09:55:44 am »

For me (as an escort who does not offer bareback, and who does not want to be approached by clients looking for unprotected sex) it is a terrible idea not to offer bareback as an option on your site. As you have already admitted some service seekers will still look for it, and some service providers will still offer it regardless of your attempts at censorship!

By not offering a bareback option all you will achieve is to ensure that girls like me (who don't offer it) will be endlessly hassled by guys who are seeking this service. Because clients on your site will have no way of differentiating between the girls that DON'T want to do it, and the girls that DO do it but aren't allowed to be seen to be offering it, it means we will all be subject to constant begging requests for bareback. Why not just offer it as an option so that the people that like it can identify and find each other, and those that don't can be left free of millions of "but do you REALLY do bareback" type messages?

Hadley, thanks so much for the constructive criticism. Your point is crystal clear, and echoes what the other escorts have been saying. We shall not be disallowing the service.

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« Reply #44 on: 13 July 2015, 10:00:39 am »
you'll need very deep pockets

You seem very knowledgeable about this kind of thing. What kind of money are you thinking we will need? 000s? 10s of 1000s? Or you thinking more in the millions? Just want to cross reference what you think with our budget.

Thanks