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Title: Straight guy looking at selling anal virginity
Post by: Mr Average on 17 July 2011, 09:32:53 am
Hi all. This question doesn't seem to be in the mainstream of what this site does, but I have found little info on the web and some surprising hating on the idea. I wonder if you can give me a hand? I'm interested in the idea of selling my bumhole virginity to a man.

Some people told me that there would be a demand for this and I could probably make a decent amount. From what little I know about the UK gay scene men have a lot of free or cheap options with gay men, so I'm not sure. I want to look into it, but don't know where to start.

Any ideas?
Title: Re: Straight guy looking at selling anal virginity
Post by: xw5 on 17 July 2011, 10:22:48 am
There will be some interest in this, especially if you can do any one of a series of particular 'looks' (find some of the gay media and look at the photo shoots for ideas - muscle, suit, scally, sports and etc etc).

Try not to read any of the articles though: you may be expected not to know what various words mean as proof you are really straight!

As your research may have already shown, men get paid less than men in this field. You can forget the stories of women charging thousands unless you are Brad Pitt...

I shouldn't have to say this, but anyone who wants to do this without a condom can be crossed of the list.
Title: Re: Straight guy looking at selling anal virginity
Post by: Mr Average on 17 July 2011, 05:21:46 pm
Thanks. Do you know what kind of websites this sort of thing is advertised on?
Title: Re: Straight guy looking at selling anal virginity
Post by: xw5 on 17 July 2011, 07:23:42 pm
I would need to know more about you, really. There is one big site, but they only like escorts who pay them so much per month, and there are probably better places - their fees would take a big chunk out of how much you could expect to get. Can you make this a news item in the gay media?

The other thoughts were that there's a 'straight men wanking' porn niche market and if you are ok with potentially everyone you know seeing it, they also do 'first time' porn. But it's a lot harder to go 'ouch, stop' in that context, so if your bum has been completely 'exit only', it's probably not a good idea.
Title: Re: Straight guy looking at selling anal virginity
Post by: tastylass on 18 July 2011, 10:34:16 am
Just a thought - if you're going to do this, then you might want to start a blog to raise interest and spread the message. You'll need to decide on your 'character' before you start, but you could write about your everyday straight life, plus how desperate you are for money, how scared you are of being fucked or whatever else feeds into the gay virgin fantasy. Add a few good pictures of your bod and your tight bumhole and hopefully you'll get some wealthy bidders.
Title: Re: Straight guy looking at selling anal virginity
Post by: Mr Average on 20 July 2011, 09:08:44 am
Thanks to both of you. The blog/news item one is good, but I want to protect my identity, so may not be a good idea, similar porn. Shouldn't be an issue with the client, but I don't want it being a big thing on the internet and some clever internet dudes finding out who I am or whatever.
Title: Re: Straight guy looking at selling anal virginity
Post by: Richard on 20 July 2011, 11:05:38 am
The fewer people who know you're offering this, the less chance you have of making money. It will never be much and I would be surprised if you walked away with as much as ?200. Doing an anonymous but noticed blog about this should work, eventually, but you need to be prepared for it to take six months or so before you have a choice of men waving the ?20 notes.

Why are you doing this? It's rather more common for first timers (who have for whatever reason not just gone on the scene and done it) to pay rather than seek to be paid. It was certainly a large chunk of my clients. If it's the money, the money, the money, then it is also possible to make money as a "suck a straight guy off" escort, but you have to get the look right, be somewhere with a large scene, and be prepared to do some marketing.

how scared you are of being fucked or whatever else feeds into the gay virgin fantasy.

The usual complaint from gay men about straight men they've managed to seduce is that they're too tender. Women are to blame, according to the scene's misogyny. See the popularity of the Scally, featuring young men who look like they'd like to mug you as much as let you have sex with them.
Title: Re: Straight guy looking at selling anal virginity
Post by: Mr Average on 20 July 2011, 12:24:26 pm
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Why are you doing this?

It's just about the money. I'm not bisexual or looking to get into it. I was thinking of a one time deal. If it would only be about ?200 then not really worth it.

I might look into the blog idea, but have to see what's involved.

Cheers.
Title: Re: Straight guy looking at selling anal virginity
Post by: Lolo on 20 July 2011, 01:45:06 pm
Surely the whole concept is based on a fantasy anyway, so really anyone could claim to be 'selling their virginity'? how much money are you hoping to make? I would have thought there are plenty of other ways to make more money.
Title: Re: Straight guy looking at selling anal virginity
Post by: Cat_BBW on 20 July 2011, 02:12:40 pm
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Why are you doing this?

It's just about the money. I'm not bisexual or looking to get into it. I was thinking of a one time deal. If it would only be about ?200 then not really worth it.



Sure you're not bisexual? Or is it a fantasy you have (nothing wrong with that) of being somehow violated by another man? Could a woman satisfy your anal play desires**?

Because, with all due respect, even the most feminine guys/most accepting of their female side guys/willing to explore their sexuality STRAIGHT guys that I know wouldn't dream of receiving bum sex from another man. (Although I do know one guy who is voraciously (500+ women!!) straight, who had an "arrangement" with a gay man, but even he was the giver and not receiver...)

(This is only in my own experience and people *I* know.)

**you wouldn't get paid for this though  ;)
Title: Re: Straight guy looking at selling anal virginity
Post by: Mr Average on 20 July 2011, 03:05:52 pm
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Sure you're not bisexual? Or is it a fantasy you have (nothing wrong with that) of being somehow violated by another man?

Yes, I'm sure. I've never desired sexual activity with another man. I've just been left in a funny situation where I need some cash, and I'm comfortable enough with myself to deal with it as a one time deal if there is in fact any demand for this. I bet you don't crave all the services you do with your clients all the time.  ;)

I don't understand the whole thing about taking it up the arse being the worst thing that can happen. For me (no disrespect intended) fucking a guy, oral etc are worse but I suppose everyone's different.
Title: Re: Straight guy looking at selling anal virginity
Post by: EmilyJones on 20 July 2011, 03:31:11 pm
I don't understand the whole thing about taking it up the arse being the worst thing that can happen. For me (no disrespect intended) fucking a guy, oral etc are worse but I suppose everyone's different.

Yeah, I can completely see your point - as far as I know, most straight guys do need to participate in a lot of anti-gay talk (including "oh it's fine for the gays! Yeah, if I were gay, I would totally bum him. Gays are great! But I'm definitely NOT gay, oh no, I'm ALL about boobs! BOOBS, I say! BOOOOBS!!") for the purposes of establishing themselves within same-sex friendship/social groups; they will also usually talk this way around a straight woman if she inquires about his sexuality.

And I think it's often awkward for anyone to talk about intimate details of their most private sexual thoughts and fantasies in a general friendship group so it makes perfect sense in a way and is very common. I do not talk about whether or not I'd do gay-for-pay with the majority of people I know, even if we're having quite a sexually-open conversation already - possibly because I wouldn't want to have an argument about whether or not I'm secretly gay when I'm pretty sure I do know my own sexual orientation!

So talk is talk. I don't think there's a rule out there about not being allowed to contemplate selling your anal virginity as a straight guy - I don't think you necessarily have to therefore have secret gay/bi fantasies at all. This whole situation is probably vaguely similar to me being totally prepared to have full-on lesbian sex if someone seriously offered to pay me ?1000 for a half hour, but for less than that, nope, I am too straight to have any personal interest in it and so just would rather not bother.

(Oh but wait - aren't all women supposed to be secretly bisexual? I'm pretty sure that's in the "Rulez Of Sex" book, as written by Cosmo/Men's Health, too, but I guess I haven't read my copy yet. :P)

(Sorry Cat - I definitely don't mean any of this as an attack on you or your post! If I sound sarcastic, it's only towards what I think are restrictive gender/sexuality stereotypes, and I'm only writing out my point of view in a general way/in order to support Mr Average's idea because his view resonates with me. I know you said you were only talking from your friends' reported experiences, and he and I are just doing the same based on our personal experience. :))
Title: Re: Straight guy looking at selling anal virginity
Post by: amy on 20 July 2011, 03:33:29 pm
Yes, I'm sure. I've never desired sexual activity with another man. I've just been left in a funny situation where I need some cash, and I'm comfortable enough with myself to deal with it as a one time deal if there is in fact any demand for this. I bet you don't crave all the services you do with your clients all the time.  ;)

I can only speak for myself, obviously, but whilst I'm certainly not some weird, up-for-it -all-the-time raving nympho (and my ads have never claimed I am), I advertise as heterosexual and catering  to male clients accordingly. I would no more be able to see (and offer a proper service to) people that went against the grain of my orientation than I would jump off a cliff, no matter how much money they were offering me; the thought of rolling about with a woman I don't know and don't fancy make me feel quite ill. Not 'craving the services' we do is hardly the same thing as advertising a bi/homosexual experience when you're not bi or homosexual.

I don't understand the whole thing about taking it up the arse being the worst thing that can happen. For me (no disrespect intended) fucking a guy, oral etc are worse but I suppose everyone's different.

If you decide to go ahead, from a practical point of view I would seriously think about getting a dildo or buttplug and having a trial run if you haven't before. It is far easier to stick things up mens bottoms than womens generally just because of the way things are laid out, but you might be in for a nasty shock if you really are a complete first timer. It ain't like having a quick poke about with a soapy finger to give it a wash.

As for 'worse', just the fact thatyou are thinking of things in terms of how 'bad' they are along some imaginary 'scale', would be enough to put me off. Considering that you're not actually likely to get as much money as you were hoping for by the sounds of things (and a couple of hundred would have been my highest guess too, so I don't know how much you were anticipating), I would be looking at other options to make whatever cash I needed. As ever, prostitution isn't the answer to everything, and as has already been said, if you want to earn plenty from it you're going to need to put some effort in marketing wise just like all the rest of us do.
Title: Re: Straight guy looking at selling anal virginity
Post by: Mr Average on 20 July 2011, 03:50:19 pm
amy, you're right it wouldn't be worth it for a couple of hundred and I couldn't contemplate becoming a full time gay escort when I'm straight. I don't really see the harm in it for one session though. I know enough about how to deal with shit that it won't leave any lasting problems.

I'm looking into it because some people suggested that I could make a decent amount as it was a gay fantasy. Maybe they were full of shit, I dunno. If I could get some decent cash within the month then it would be an answer to be honest, but either there's a market for it or not.


Title: Re: Straight guy looking at selling anal virginity
Post by: amy on 20 July 2011, 03:58:06 pm
I'm looking into it because some people suggested that I could make a decent amount as it was a gay fantasy. Maybe they were full of shit, I dunno. If I could get some decent cash within the month then it would be an answer to be honest, but either there's a market for it or not.

It's very easy for people to pontificate about things they know fuck all about, as you have now found, but at least you've found a way to few people who do (and I don't claim to be one of them). The fact remains, that if you want to make any sort of decent money for anything, then bar a lottery win, there's likely to be some hard work involved. There are people who think we all make ?5K a week too, because they look at the hourly rates on our websites and multiply them by some figure plucked out of thin air - it's good oldfashioned ignorance.

amy, you're right it wouldn't be worth it for a couple of hundred and I couldn't contemplate becoming a full time gay escort when I'm straight. I don't really see the harm in it for one session though. I know enough about how to deal with shit that it won't leave any lasting problems.

Soap and water works for me  ;D.
Title: Re: Straight guy looking at selling anal virginity
Post by: Cat_BBW on 20 July 2011, 04:08:49 pm

(Sorry Cat - I definitely don't mean any of this as an attack on you or your post! If I sound sarcastic, it's only towards what I think are restrictive gender/sexuality stereotypes, and I'm only writing out my point of view in a general way/in order to support Mr Average's idea because his view resonates with me. I know you said you were only talking from your friends' reported experiences, and he and I are just doing the same based on our personal experience. :))

LOL - no problem, I didn't read it as an attack :)

Whilst I consider sexuality to be fluid (moreso in some people than others) and see things from a "prefers-relationships-with-men-but-still-enjoys-a-lesbo-fling" stance (just easier to say "bisexual"!!), I can't see how a straight guy can be happy to have an experience with another man...such an experience that is likely to include kissing, wanking, sucking EACH OTHER (unless the client is happy to pay ?100's or even ?1000's for JUST anal sex - which if so, could go on for much longer than Mr Average is expecting or wanting! (we've all been there!!))....

Then Amy's next post summed it up more succinctly than I could:

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I can only speak for myself, obviously, but whilst I'm certainly not some weird, up-for-it -all-the-time raving nympho (and my ads have never claimed I am), I advertise as heterosexual and catering  to male clients accordingly. I would no more be able to see (and offer a proper service to) people that went against the grain of my orientation than I would jump off a cliff, no matter how much money they were offering me; the thought of rolling about with a woman I don't know and don't fancy make me feel quite ill. Not 'craving the services' we do is hardly the same thing as advertising a bi/homosexual experience when you're not bi or homosexual.
Title: Re: Straight guy looking at selling anal virginity
Post by: Sweet-Pleasure on 20 July 2011, 04:16:52 pm

Soap and water works for me  ;D.

That was a really cheap shot Amy, but it still cracked me up!

Mr Average, for my 2 bits worth I would say that there is very little market out there for what you're offering.

Check out the casual encounters section of craigslist and if your area is anything like mine there will be at least 20 straight guys giving their bums away.

The same could be said of escorting but guys come to us because -

A) We advertise, which you've said you wouldn't want to do.

B) We're experienced and know what we're doing.

C) We enjoy what we do (or are very good at acting at least!)

So I wouldn't pin my hopes of a large sum of money on this one off venture, if you owe the mafia or something I would advise skipping town.

I don't mean to be harsh or anything, I do know some gay male escorts and they do well with regular clients, but they offer a full service and enjoy what they do. And not to be too graphic but their bodies are more experienced too, all is well in good if your high bidder isn't a rampaging man stallion, but what if he is? Are you prepared for it to hurt?
Title: Re: Straight guy looking at selling anal virginity
Post by: Cat_BBW on 20 July 2011, 04:22:07 pm
all is well in good if your high bidder isn't a rampaging man stallion, but what if he is? Are you prepared for it to hurt?

And with the pain, stretching of anus and thrusting, comes... natural bodily functions. I know a few people who have been caught out/surprised by this, even after an enema...
Title: Re: Straight guy looking at selling anal virginity
Post by: EmilyJones on 20 July 2011, 04:25:09 pm
Whilst I consider sexuality to be fluid (moreso in some people than others) and see things from a "prefers-relationships-with-men-but-still-enjoys-a-lesbo-fling" stance (just easier to say "bisexual"!!), I can't see how a straight guy can be happy to have an experience with another man...such an experience that is likely to include kissing, wanking, sucking EACH OTHER (unless the client is happy to pay ?100's or even ?1000's for JUST anal sex - which if so, could go on for much longer than Mr Average is expecting or wanting! (we've all been there!!))....

Well, I see this topic as being about a person who is prepared to go gay-for-pay, rather than a real sexuality thing. Don't straight guys sometimes do gay porn for cash, despite definitely only wanting sex with women in their 'real' lives? It doesn't turn them gay, or make them want to kill themselves for having snogged a man despite being straight! :) Anyway, I'm not surprised the OP is considering a similar thing if he really, really wants some cash ASAP, especially considering all the misconceptions out there about the sex industry (that you can make ten grand in a week without literally working your fanny/bum off, etc!).

I'll admit it: I'd shag a lady for a grand if for some reason I needed to, but I'd rather not, since I'm completely straight and would rather just not put myself in that situation at all. And when I say "for a grand", it'd have to be a nice lady and I'd have to be quite desperate. But if I was desperate enough, I'd do it no matter what - that's a bit of a sad fact of life, really - this job isn't always about ecstatically happy people doing paid sex stuff that they'd probably do for free anyway. And I think that's more like what the OP was talking about - what he'd be prepared to do for enough cash, not what he is having secret fantasies about.

At the end of the day I agree with Amy, too, though - very often, prostitution is not the answer, especially not when the going rate for something you don't personally enjoy doing might be surprisingly low cos lots of other people do enjoy it!

At least the OP hasn't had the amazingly, fabulously original idea of marketing his amazing self to all those poor hot women out there who simply can't get enough for free, eh? ;D
Title: Re: Straight guy looking at selling anal virginity
Post by: Cat_BBW on 20 July 2011, 04:39:02 pm
Whilst I consider sexuality to be fluid (moreso in some people than others) and see things from a "prefers-relationships-with-men-but-still-enjoys-a-lesbo-fling" stance (just easier to say "bisexual"!!), I can't see how a straight guy can be happy to have an experience with another man...such an experience that is likely to include kissing, wanking, sucking EACH OTHER (unless the client is happy to pay ?100's or even ?1000's for JUST anal sex - which if so, could go on for much longer than Mr Average is expecting or wanting! (we've all been there!!))....

Well, I see this topic as being about a person who is prepared to go gay-for-pay, rather than a real sexuality thing. Don't straight guys sometimes do gay porn for cash, despite definitely only wanting sex with women in their 'real' lives? It doesn't turn them gay, or make them want to kill themselves for having snogged a man despite being straight! :) Anyway, I'm not surprised the OP is considering a similar thing if he really, really wants some cash ASAP, especially considering all the misconceptions out there about the sex industry (that you can make ten grand in a week without literally working your fanny/bum off, etc!).

I'll admit it: I'd shag a lady for a grand if for some reason I needed to, but I'd rather not, since I'm completely straight and would rather just not put myself in that situation at all. And when I say "for a grand", it'd have to be a nice lady and I'd have to be quite desperate. But if I was desperate enough, I'd do it no matter what - that's a bit of a sad fact of life, really - this job isn't always about ecstatically happy people doing paid sex stuff that they'd probably do for free anyway. And I think that's more like what the OP was talking about - what he'd be prepared to do for enough cash, not what he is having secret fantasies about.

At the end of the day I agree with Amy, too, though - very often, prostitution is not the answer, especially not when the going rate for something you don't personally enjoy doing might be surprisingly low cos lots of other people do enjoy it!

At least the OP hasn't had the amazingly, fabulously original idea of marketing his amazing self to all those poor hot women out there who simply can't get enough for free, eh? ;D

LOL - good post, and good points well made ;D

And LOL at your last sentence - so true!!! I know a guy who is your normal 40+ (nearly 50) year old man, who isn't exactly top of the class in erection maintenance (shall we say ;D ) and he thought he'd come up with the most excellent idea of how to get some sex and pay his debts: to get "sexy young women" (his words!) to pay for his 'services'...!! I told him he'd be lucky to get a freebie off ME, he wasn't amused ;D ;D
Title: Re: Straight guy looking at selling anal virginity
Post by: AngelaManchester on 20 July 2011, 05:30:03 pm
If you decide to go ahead, from a practical point of view I would seriously think about getting a dildo or buttplug and having a trial run if you haven't before. It is far easier to stick things up mens bottoms than womens generally just because of the way things are laid out, but you might be in for a nasty shock if you really are a complete first timer. It ain't like having a quick poke about with a soapy finger to give it a wash.

If you do go ahead, this is good advice!  You need to get a decent-size dildo, lube yourself up, and give it a go.

As for having sex with a man when you're straight, of course you can do it.  I am heterosexual and advertise as such, but would I have sex with a woman for a lot of money, yes, I would (not sure how good I'd be, mind).  And the key words in that sentence are 'a lot'  :)
Title: Re: Straight guy looking at selling anal virginity
Post by: Mr Average on 21 July 2011, 08:19:06 pm
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and he thought he'd come up with the most excellent idea of how to get some sex and pay his debts: to get "sexy young women" (his words!) to pay for his 'services'.

That guy's a genius. I can't believe I didn't think of that! Right, I'm off to seek my fortune as a heterosexual manwhore.
Title: Re: Straight guy looking at selling anal virginity
Post by: mikey1 on 22 July 2011, 08:57:37 pm
I was fascinated to read your post, and I think some great advice from the ladies here. To me it seems this is a great fantasy for you, I can understand your needing the cash, but its not normally the first option a straight guy thinks of, over the years I've certainly had many bisexual clients, I've also known many bisexual couples work together.
If you do go ahead, I would advise as someone already did to prepare yourself perhaps try a dildo etc. I certainly hated it when I started, and took a long time to learn how to relax.
Also, don't assume another guy will expect you to be passive, I can think of many guys that would prefer you to be active. Good luck, I hope it works out for you. Mike.  ;D
Title: Re: Straight guy looking at selling anal virginity
Post by: Mr Average on 23 July 2011, 11:20:51 am
Of course it's not a fucking fantasy, did you not read the rest of the thread  ::)

If there are so many other ways to make quick cash then please let me know!

Thanks for the tips anyway...
Title: Re: Straight guy looking at selling anal virginity
Post by: amy on 23 July 2011, 11:26:38 am
I realise it was a pretty facile thing to say, but responses like this are not acceptable - either keep it civil or don't post. Any more childish petulance and we'll decide that for you.
Title: Re: Straight guy looking at selling anal virginity
Post by: EmilyJones on 23 July 2011, 12:44:58 pm
I realise it was a pretty facile thing to say, but responses like this are not acceptable - either keep it civil or don't post. Any more childish petulance and we'll decide that for you.

Perhaps it's time to lock this thread? The only really useful posts were made on the first page and all the rest is just people trying to tell the OP about his sexuality based on their (frankly) irrelevant experience, and the OP getting (in my opinion) justifiably annoyed.

Foul language is not justified, though. And there really are no legal ways to make a pile of cash in an instant, especially not if you don't want to be risking your health in a serious way. So... perhaps if anyone else knows a lot about selling anal virginity to male clients, they could just PM Mr Average directly? And then this thread can die a much-needed death. :)
Title: Re: Straight guy looking at selling anal virginity
Post by: amy on 23 July 2011, 02:26:09 pm
I concur.

Locked.