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Re: A New (and Safer) Form of Prostitution
« Reply #30 on: 17 September 2015, 09:45:50 pm »
I don't care if clients have my number.
What's the matter with that?
I pick up and ignore when I want.

If you vanish what happens to the
client base I built up via your App?

'Newer generations' from 18 up seem to find their way to us adequately without confusion or distress.
...'Do you not think though that to keep up with modern times and attract newer generations it may help?'

Who exactly is swindled and how?
...'Also that it can stop escorts being swindled out of cash they deserve?'
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Re: A New (and Safer) Form of Prostitution
« Reply #31 on: 17 September 2015, 09:51:57 pm »
I think that its a good idea in parts but I want cash not bank transfer and agree that I'd like to have a phone number, how else would I block a client if they could just keep calling me from a randomised number?

The biggest issue that I have however, is your want for making prostitution seem 'trendy'. I would not recommend prostitution to ANYONE. I love my job, but it isn't the safest (in terms of clients and being outed) and it can also affect mental health quite drastically. It just isn't for everyone, and to treat it as though it's tinder or something such like, just isn't right to me.

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Re: A New (and Safer) Form of Prostitution
« Reply #32 on: 17 September 2015, 10:34:47 pm »
Thank you for all the responses so far, I appreciate how honest you're all being.

I would say I'm probably getting a bit of a hard time from you all and a lot of assumptions are being made about me, which is slightly unfair.

If you don't like the idea, that's completely fine and I really plan to take on board everything you all say.

I'm really just a person who has realised how lucrative this industry is (as all of you certainly have) and have come to the conclusion that I could offer something a bit new and different whilst trying to make it all a bit more safe and secure. I'm not a bad person and I'm certainly n

It's a shame that you don't seem to be responding in the same spirit. You still haven't provided the details Amy requested - why not? If you provided bona fide details about your company, and I don't see why you shouldn't, then you may receive a more positive response on here.

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« Reply #33 on: 17 September 2015, 10:41:38 pm »
Hi Miranda,

The reason I haven't responded to that is because there isn't much to say. I am currently practising as a criminal law barrister as I mentioned before. This business idea is nothing more than an idea at present and no business has actually been set up. I really just wanted to get some feedback before I actually have a go at making this work :)

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« Reply #34 on: 17 September 2015, 11:24:20 pm »
From the info you've given James, it's not a service I'd be interested in. I need the client's phone number for my own peace of mind and I only deal in cash.

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Re: A New (and Safer) Form of Prostitution
« Reply #35 on: 17 September 2015, 11:27:14 pm »
I completely take your point about the electronic transactions.

Do you not think though that to keep up with modern times and attract newer generations it may help?

Also that it can stop escorts being swindled out of cash they deserve?

And as regards the paper trail, many people nowadays make electronic purchases for things they don't want others to find out about and you can easily hide things from bank statements, etc.

And I think there's some confusion. Vetting is crucial. Which is why I want to use the phone number randomisation software to ensure that the escorts can have a phone call with the potential punter through the app without the punter actually knowing their phone number

What's to stop you swindling us out of cash though if it's done electronically via your app. Adultwork steal people's profits all the time from webcam n private gallery

This isn't an attack but i refuse to believe you work in law, never mind as a criminal defence barrister if you believe that profiting from prostitution doesn't make you a pimp. 
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« Reply #36 on: 17 September 2015, 11:32:59 pm »
I would never allow that to happen and if I did I would end up banged up in prison pretty fast! I want to do this entirely above board to ensure that neither myself nor the escorts and punters that use this service get into trouble.

And I most certainly am a Criminal Defence Barrister! I can post up my qualification if that would help! I've done a lot of research on the law and I am certain that this idea is completely within the law. This is nothing more than a more modern and, I like to feel, safer way of connecting punters with escorts and allowing escorts to publicise to a different market whilst remaining in full control of everything they do.

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« Reply #37 on: 17 September 2015, 11:44:06 pm »
I would never allow that to happen and if I did I would end up banged up in prison pretty fast! I want to do this entirely above board to ensure that neither myself nor the escorts and punters that use this service get into trouble.

And I most certainly am a Criminal Defence Barrister! I can post up my qualification if that would help! I've done a lot of research on the law and I am certain that this idea is completely within the law. This is nothing more than a more modern and, I like to feel, safer way of connecting punters with escorts and allowing escorts to publicise to a different market whilst remaining in full control of everything they do.

From James' earlier post: "I'm really just a person who has realised how lucrative this industry is"

I'm very confused by this as presumably, as a barrister, you must have (we suppose) at the very least a strong working knowledge of the law. Therefore, you must know that "controlling prostitution for gain" is unlawful. As this is clearly what you would be doing by setting up the app that you propose, how on earth can you reconcile this with working as a barrister (assuming you do)? The whole idea is preposterous and would get you barred! Working as a barrister whilst pimping on the side? (which is what "controlling prostitution for gain" is commonly known as)?! Absolute rubbish.
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Re: A New (and Safer) Form of Prostitution
« Reply #38 on: 17 September 2015, 11:46:58 pm »
I would never allow that to happen and if I did I would end up banged up in prison pretty fast! I want to do this entirely above board to ensure that neither myself nor the escorts and punters that use this service get into trouble.

Then I suggest you familiarise yourself with the 2003 Sexual Offences Act, specifically Section 53 - Controlling prostitution for gain. As a third party taking direct payment (gain) for arranging meetings between prostitutes and punters (control), that's exactly what you are doing. There's no question of either us or our clients 'getting into trouble' because unlike you, we're not breaking the law.

I haven't read the whole thing because I'm so sick to death of these clueless punters idiots and their next big idea That Will Change Our Lives that I literally cannot sit through another one, but James, has it not occurred to you yet that now might be a good time to put the spade down? Why is it that this endless stream of people all think we're so dumb that we need total outsiders to bowl up and tell us that we're doing it all wrong and they can organise how we do our jobs better than we can, despite all the evidence to contrary?

I don't turn up on a builders forum and tell them I've come up with a better way to lay foundations than anything they can do because I've had a look round Wickes and done a bit of internet research and watched every episode ever of Grand Designs. What the fuck is the matter with you all? Has it occurred to you to try and come with something that we can't do by ourselves and might actually need some help with? No, of course not, because there isn't anything and that's the bit you can't stand, isn't it?

Anybody who wants to see the credentials incidentally, just Google the email address given in the first post.

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Re: A New (and Safer) Form of Prostitution
« Reply #39 on: 17 September 2015, 11:52:29 pm »
Well fucking said Amy. There really is nothing more to be said on the matter. Amy has put it quite elequently.

P.S I wouldn't put my business in the hands of someone voting UKIP. Just my personal preference.
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« Reply #40 on: 17 September 2015, 11:56:21 pm »
I have to say Amy I do find you and some others unnecessarily rude.

I know the law inside out and I am confident that my idea does not breach it.

I am not trying to change your lives. I don't think any of you are dumb or need help. In fact, I have a huge deal of respect for all of you and you are without a doubt some of the best entrepreneurs this country has!

I have a business idea. It involves prostitution, an area that has always fascinated me. It's not revolutionary and going to change the world. But I think it's something there is a market for and that it has some cool new ideas. I think (and certainly hope) it could benefit escorts, especially those who are truly self employed and finding it difficult to get off the ground. I think (and certainly hope) it could benefit punters, offering them an easily accessible and easy to use system. That's it :)

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« Reply #41 on: 18 September 2015, 12:14:01 am »
I think Amy has encapsulated the reasons for why we can come across as rude to those like yourself.

But please, if you're going to continue digging, explain how your app would not be illegal re. controlling prostitution for gain?
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Re: A New (and Safer) Form of Prostitution
« Reply #42 on: 18 September 2015, 12:23:17 am »
Yes I don't think your idea has any weight (or your claims to be a barrister) if you're not able to explain how you would not be breaching any laws?
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« Reply #43 on: 18 September 2015, 12:30:56 am »
James, given your demonstrated knowledge of criminal law in this forum I would never hire you as a lawyer, and given your demonstrated knowledge of the sex industry even less as a pimp.
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« Reply #44 on: 18 September 2015, 12:59:23 am »
Also: A little business advice here (from someone who has succesfully run her own business for 17 years and knows a thing or two). You shouldn't be posting your real work e-mail here because any client, potential client, law frm, potential employer etc...who will google your name or e-mail address (your name is on your e-mail address)  is going to reach this forum, read that you work for some "organization that wants to revamp the prostituion business in this country" , find out about your wanna-be pimp ambitions, your lack of knowledge etc...and as a criminal barrister is NOT going to look good. Nothing wrong with being an entrepeneur but not everyone is so open minded.
« Last Edit: 18 September 2015, 01:05:27 am by Ana30 »
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