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Hi rhonasg.
I occasionally get a request from a client, asking to pay after the session.
I point out that anything that is not MUF (Money Up Front)
is a freebie, and I don't do freebies.
Then I hold out my hand, smile and ask for the Coin.  :)

Never be told that you lost nothing.
You lost your time; your time was stolen from you.
The only thing you have to sell is your time.
Once it's gone, you never get it back.
This is no different, morally,
from a person who works on minimum wage for a month
and on pay-day the boss telling the employee that they have no money and they aren't going to pay them.

Yes he stole from you.
But as others have correctly pointed out, sex-based contracts
are unenforcible. This means you have no legal redress.
The only thing you can do is put a note in the warning section on this site
and the various other sites that post warnings of dodgy clients,
like here: https://uknswp.org/um/
Learn from this and move on, less the grudge eats you up which will only hurt you.
You're new to Escorting so it may help you look at this as a learning exercise,
figuring out what works for you and what doesn't.
A learning investment for your Professional future.

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Questions and Answers / Re: Customers changing their mind in the room
« on: April 23, 2013, 08:43:36 PM »
I wonder if it's more common for trans escorts to get last minute nerves from clients.

It's entirely ok to ask for something for wasting your time
Double whammy.
"I'm cheating on my wife WITH A PROSTITUTE!
and just as bad, with a tranny."

Nature of the sector of the business.
I get very few walk-outs these days and I make it a chilled out 'no-worry' kind of thing.
I ask them to phone first if they change their mind again, within 30 minutes,
or if not, saying they are welcome back when they feel ok about themselves.
(I'll give random strangers a few chances to give me large amounts of money
for very little work!  ;D)

I've never got anyone, {ever!} to pay a cancellation fee though.
(I posted about this on SAAFE a couple of years ago)
Possibly coz in the USA it's called a 'Kill-fee'
and after watching one too many episodes of The Shield
I'm worried they may take the term literally!
Besides, I'm focused on getting either a full fee for a session
or a full fee for a  session at some later point.
Trans-Escort market is tiny compared to the Bio-Female Escort market
so I want to convert as many contacts to fully paying clients.
Besides, once they have a session, they usually come back.
A reaping/sowing type of thing.
 

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Questions and Answers / Re: Adultwork not working?
« on: April 11, 2013, 01:26:38 PM »
They just tweeted:
AdultWork.com ‏@AdultWorkcom 6m
Please use http://www2.adultwork.com for now.

which is nice as I can access my profile and stuff.
But useless for clients as they won't know about this.
If AW's owners/server company could point AW to the backup site, it would be a useful temporary fix.
{DNS rollover according to Hubby} But he reckons that to do it robustly,
all of AW would need to be mirrored on the backup site. This would not be practical for a site like AW
because of the resources needed (large ongoing costs). This usually only happens for "critical sites"
like banks or google or betting companies; where the sums of money involved in a loss of service are so large,
that placing backup resources are justified.
The revenue generated by AW is just too small, relatively speaking.
(& I thought JodieTs was the centre of the universe!  :P)
The problem is one that AW's service provider should address, rather than AW.
Though I'm glad AW are doing stuff too.



Point of note. I understand about 5% of the stuff I just posted!

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I'm providing a bit of depth to the importance IMO of safety calls over text messages
along with the psychology behind them.
I didn't see any depth of detail about security calls, in the main site article: Outcalls.
I posted here, for consideration as an additional part of that section.
These are my safety perceptions, so it would be useful if others add their methods too,
so as to get an all round approach to this component of outcall safety.

Oh, it was no major effort, really. (You're welcome  :))
Mostly a cut n' paste job from a post I did earlier on this very subject.

Anyway, I hope this helps others stay safer.

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Security calls are a vital part of outcall safety.
They create the impression in the clients mind that you are security concious and if you go missing,
this will both be immediately noticed and acted upon.
These communications need to be done in earshot of the client and they have to be a phone call rather than a text message.
If you have no one at all to do these calls with, phone your home number and talk to your voicemail. Or failing that, a call to the talking clock is better than nothing. But turn the volume down so the client doesn't hear:
"At the third stroke, the time from BT will be  twelve forty-six and ten seconds... beep beep beeeeep"!

Texts are totally useless for security:
  • Sending a text does not guarantee the network has delivered it.
    I've had texts take 24 hours to go through.  Sometimes they don't at all.
    (Think of all the 'Happy new year' texts on midnight NYE that you get hours later, sometimes sent in error from strangers)
  • Sending a text does not guarantee the network has delivered it to the right number.
  • Sending a text does not guarantee the security buddy has seen it.
    Your security buddy lost their phone or their battery went flat or they're an escort too and they got an "Immediate" job or they got drunk or fell asleep or.....
Even if your text message security goes through ok, you are still not covered:
  • (Highly unlikely scenario, but still possible) The client has another agenda, other than pay-sex. They see you do your security texts. They then incapacitate you then later they send an "All clear" security text to your buddy. You are not reported missing for days or weeks...

Security is a phone call.
  • Phone just before you enter address or hotel.
  • Phone just after you receive Coin and agree to take the booking. (Done in clients earshot). If you don't use a driver, give the impression that you do. Tell your buddy (who is no where near your o/c location) to go grab a coffee, giving the client the impression your (imaginary) driver is just down the road.  They may well be actually sitting in their apartment, in another country.
  • Phone just before you leave the job and state that you will see the driver in 2 minutes. This stops any last minute abductions.
  • If you don't have a driver, phone your buddy when you are back in your own car/taxi/tube station. ie. when you are well away from the clients location.
These calls create a traceable timeline for the police to follow if you do go missing.

Finally, the worst scenario for your security buddy happens:
There is a break in the call sequence after the first call.
They need specific timescales and actions to follow.
These must be agreed beforehand, otherwise they are going to be left worrying with no clear idea of what to do next and when. This does not help you.
1. Agree how long after a missed call that they should PHONE YOU, NOT TEXT YOU.
2. If they cannot contact you, agree how long after this point, that they should wait before making another call, before IMMEDIATELY PHONING THE POLICE.

What to say to the police.
Prozzing is not illegal and I'd expect the police to respond to any missing persons report equally.
I would still engineer a mind-set in the police so they are thinking 'date gone wrong?'
rather than 'flaky prozzie switched her phone off, probably drama over nothing'
With this in mind:
"My friend has gone on a first date" (which when you think about it, this is).
"She said she would phone me after getting to this guys hotel/home to say all's ok"
"She hasn't and now I'm worried"
"Here are her details and here is the location"

Sit back and hope it's just a break in communications.

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Questions and Answers / Re: Urgent...need advice NOW!
« on: January 20, 2013, 07:29:52 AM »
I recommend having explicit times when you expect to hear from one another.

My security buddy knows to expect a text no later than 10 minutes into the appointment and I tell her to expect a text no later than about 10 minutes after the scheduled end time.
Texts are totally useless for security:
  • Sending a text does not guarantee the network has delivered it.
    (I've had texts take 24 hours to go through.  Sometimes they don't at all. Think of all the 'Happy new year' texts on midnight NYE that you get hours later, sometimes sent in error from strangers)
  • Sending a text does not guarantee the network has delivered it to the right number.
  • Sending a text does not guarantee the security buddy has seen it.
    Your security buddy lost their phone or their battery went flat or they're an escort too and got an Immediate job or they got drunk or fell asleep or.....
Even if your text message security goes through ok, you are still not covered:
  • (Highly unlikely scenario, but still possible) The client has another agenda, other than pay-sex. They see you do your security texts. They then incapacitate you then later they send an "All clear" security text to your buddy. You are not reported missing for days or weeks...

Security is a phone call.
  • Phone just before you enter address or hotel.
  • Phone just after you receive Coin and agree to take the booking. (Done in clients earshot). If you don't use a driver, give the impression that you do. Tell your buddy (who is no where near your o/c location) to go grab a coffee, giving the client the impression your (imaginary) driver is just down the road.  They may well be actually sitting in their apartment, in another country.
  • Phone just before you leave the job and state that you will see the driver in 2 minutes. This stops any last minute abductions.
  • If you don't have a driver, phone your buddy when you are back in your own car/taxi/tube station. ie. when you are well away from the clients location.
These calls create a traceable timeline for the police to follow if you do go missing.

Finally, the worst scenario for your security buddy happens:
There is a break in the call sequence after the first call.
They need specific timescales and actions to follow.
These must be agreed beforehand, otherwise they are going to be left worrying with no clear idea of what to do next and when. This does not help you.
1. Agree how long after a missed call that they should PHONE YOU, NOT TEXT YOU.
2. If they cannot contact you, agree how long after this point, that they should wait before making another call, before IMMEDIATELY PHONING THE POLICE.

What to say to the police.
Prozzing is not illegal and I'd expect the police to respond to any missing persons report equally.
I would still engineer a mind-set in the police so they are thinking 'date gone wrong?'
rather than 'flaky prozzie switched her phone off, probably drama over nothing'
With this in mind:
"My friend has gone on a first date" (which when you think about it, this is).
"She said she would phone me after getting to this guys hotel/home to say all's ok"
"She hasn't and now I'm worried"
"Here are her details and here is the location"

Sit back and hope it's just a break in communications.

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Questions and Answers / Re: Neighbor Getting In The Way
« on: January 17, 2013, 10:07:35 AM »
The first time he kept asking me to visit so I kept saying each time saw him exactly the same. I'm busy tomorrow. Then I did to begin with hoping he leaves me alone. But hasn't worked out that way. Lesson learned the hard way.
Him: Why not drop in for a coffee?
Me: I'd love to, but I'm going to be washing my hair.
Him: Ok, What about tomorrow?
Me: I'd love to, but I'm going to be washing my hair, tomorrow as well.
Him: Ok, what about the day after?
Me: 'Fraid not. I'm going to be washing my hair, every day for the rest of my life....

Yes I've said this, yes it works.

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I am going to start asking for deposits from new clients, at the moment I have a Cashplus pre-paid Mastercard. Im wondering how easy is this for clients to transfer money to, as I know a lot of clients wont want to pay via bank transfer.

Could they go into a Moneyshop and say I want to pay to this account (same as going into someones bank and directly depositing to their account) or would the place need your card?

I use a SPLASH pre pay credit card:
If you are a significant distance from me, I will probably require a £100 deposit, prior to my visit. This will be a 360money e-voucher obtainable
from any shop / garage with a PayPoint terminal.
I can give you the nearest shop location.
(Some of these shops are 24 hour)
Ask the cashier for an 360 Money, e-voucher.
You may find it easier to present the 'copy voucher'
below, to the the cashier - though that's strictly
not necessary.
e-voucher  Print off this coupon (optional)                  
                                       Then, later when you ask for a £100       
                                       360 money e-voucher, the cashier will hand you 
                                        the voucher.
                                        (Keep this e-voucher safe)

                                        Next, you text me over the voucher number.
                                        I then go on-line and credit the voucher to
                                        my account.
                                        After that, I immediately phone you on your   
                                        mobile
                                        and we finalize the time I visit you.

                                        Easy!

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Blather and Babble / Re: 'Do you find me attractive?'
« on: January 16, 2013, 07:50:31 PM »
I just lie:
"I'm gay and my girlfriend would be mortified if I found men attractive.
But I guess, that for a man, most people would find you hot"
  ::)

This nicely sidesteps the question and diverts their attention
towards my personal sex life with my (totally imaginary) girlfriend.  ;D
Which I'm equally happy to expand on.



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but wouldn't let him spit a bit of saliva. I told him I find that to be slightly demeaning and
then he told me that I was the first girl he saw that had an issue with it.
Is spitting on faces normal for clients for clients in your bookings and do they ever ask
or did I just run into a weird man?
=manipulation
If you object to a requested service, state this to them,  in a clear "they can't misunderstand it way".
If they ask again and infer it's the normal thing that EVERY OTHER ESCORT IN THE WHOLE WORLD DOES,   ::)
state again, in a clear "they can't misunderstand it" way that it's not an 'Offered service'.
If they push again, immediately stop and kick them out. (Consider a part refund for unused time - I wouldn't, but that's your call)

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Questions and Answers / Re: Coffee with Client?
« on: January 08, 2013, 01:33:14 AM »
I charge £50 per hour (minimum 2 hours) for social engagements.
I love drinking cappuccino in a deli and getting paid makes it nicer.
But ironically I'd rather not because while I'm doing that,
I can't field calls or take bookings or do bookings for full service clients.
And as that pays much much more, that's what I'm focused on.
The social rate is to compensate me to a small degree for potential lost work.

KittyTK, my suspicions mirror those posts above me, in that he's unlikely to ever be a paying client.
His 'kicks' are probably already being obtained through the FREE INTERACTIONS you're already engaging in.
(That's one of those things, we can all get suckered in; I certainly do :))
Sometimes these endless communications do result in a booking, but in my experience this only occurs after I've made it clear in a super sweet way, that now is the time for them to book a session (be it social or sexual).
And of those rare few who do have a session, none of them EVER has become a repeat client.
I hope this does result in Coin for you, be it for social & later a full session. Fingers crossed.
(which is not a good thing to base earning projection on)
   

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Questions and Answers / Re: Can I cum on your face?
« on: January 07, 2013, 10:55:50 PM »
I think COF dropped out of fashion when everyone started asking for anal. Was that before or after everyone started asking for fisting though?
Lol, I forget now :)
The games moved on.
These days, anal double fisting is all the rage!  :o

Porn has so much to answer for with expectations
and sadly what a man feels he should be looking for.
As a Sex-Professional, this doesn't phase me;
After all, I've my well thought through pre-set boundaries.
But it does strike me as sad that many (I suspect mainly men)
take these Porn film created scenarios and to some degree believe
them to be an expected component of sex within a relationship.
XXX-media created dysfunctionality.

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Questions and Answers / Re: Time wasters night owls
« on: January 07, 2013, 08:40:56 PM »
3:00 am this morning. Wide awake. Playing Skyrim on X-Box.
3:13 am: JodiePhone rings.
4am: Sucking the willy of a perfectly lovely client.
7:30pm Tonight. I'm still wide awake.
Being a Vampire-Escort is not as much fun as the movies suggest.

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Questions and Answers / Re: Birchplace
« on: January 06, 2013, 02:04:54 PM »
What is confusing me is that you have to pay to advertise as a Pro ( fair enough and straightforward so far)  , so  I clicked the "professional profile" option when joining. I also did a quick browse to look for a  TV friend/client who has started working - who has  gone from been a very shy man who saw escorts so he could dress in peace , to a full blown TV who is now working as an escort themselves ,  clubbing all the time and having time of their lives !! We chatted and i said i would offer kinky duos  with her - hence i need  a birchplace profile .......Well i cant find hers , but I did find a few other escort and Dom pages in my area.

These other profiles I looked at , some say "escort" in pink , some "pro dom "  or "pro woman" .....At the top of my page it says "pro woman" ( in red , not pink )  , but I haven't paid any money yet !!? ....V V confusing .........Also there are some profiles in my area that have no "escort" or "pro" on the header but they are offering services anyway . I take it these people have got away with advertising without paying? ( they are not new pages though so no-one has hassled them to take them down ?)

I don't mind paying the £25 but is its going to be worth it ? BTW I'm a genetic female not a TV/TS , so i don't know if there would be much interest in me on a  predominately TV/TS site

As well as  offering  the "niche" Fem/TV 2 girl  escort meets , I could also offer my Dom service on there  , but I see that is in yet  another separate  section  ,  so would that be another £25? 

Anyone clued up with this site please?  :)

BP is shit in it's layout as the OP found 2 years ago.
6 months ago they had a revamp and it's much worse.
The fee for an escort registration was £23 but it is now £20.
{I think this is to do with the £/€ conversion rate, rather than a reduction coz the site is a pile of crap to navigate! :P}

Is it worth it?
£20 for a years advertising.  One client from BP would pay for 8 years advertising on BP,
so yes it's worth it! I'm in an average sized town so in geographic searches I'm on the first page or two.
In London, I'd need to renew my ad daily to get this visibility. That's where their fee structure plays in with their business plan.
I get a lot of clients from BP.
This is despite their navigation facility being rubbish.
I'm surprised anyone ever finds me, but clearly they do.

BP is not a directory as such. It's mainly a transvestite sex site, where most of the members are civilians.
The escort directory is an additional structure.
It used to be a separate section with a different page layout.
Now escort ads are shown ONLY as profiles
and lumped together with all the non-escort profiles.
The differences are (I think) that you appear in searches from the "Escorts Search" box and (I think) your phone number gets displayed at the top of your profile.                                     
I did a search in the escort section for KinkyVixen but there were no results.
So if you are using that name, you don't appear in search results for: 353 Female Escorts pro Girls  Your registration is limited to the general profile section. I guess it says escort at the top of your profile because you ticked a box saying escort.  But without paying them Coin, your profile does not appear in escort searches.

I think that if you want a separate Pro Domme profile, that appears in the Pro Domme directory,
you need another profile and to pay for it:
Your Pro Ad Settings
General information for your Pro Ad
Display Name  ------
http://escorts.birchplace.com/--------
Directory Position
You are now #157 out of 2627
Get to the top of the directory and get more bookings!
Directory {Drop down menu}

You can only select one of the options per profile
This determines which Directory you appear in.

Are men there interested in Bio-women?  Probably.
Besides, there are only 353 other Bio-women in the UK
advertising there, so it's gotta be worth a punt!


 

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I'd also be very interested in the clients motivation for the deception.
This would be part of my processing process for deciding whether to do the gig, or not.

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