Sugar Daddies & related arrangements

[Kay]

I know what I'm doing when it comes to monthly allowances kind of but I'm just wondering people's experiences when it comes to "arrangements" when it comes to in exchange for property. I'm about to possibly cover rent in kind for a nice flat and am wondering key things I should maybe make sure of or check or do if i do go through with it? I'm aware this is a little dangerous & has the potential of being messy but I want to do what I want to do for my reasons.

Would be interesting to hear if many people do/have done this....

I'd be extremely wary of this. At the very least, make sure you have a normal tenancy agreement with all the legal tenant's rights. And what is he expecting 'in kind'? Ten blow jobs and five shags a month with anal on bank holiday weekends...?

[LillyRose]

Hahah that description cracked me up! I guess a meeting a week I would do, but come to an agreement that suits both.I know it is risky but I guess if it worked well it'd be quite good. That's a good idea about tenancy agreement, thank you.

[LillyRose]

It's just been offered to me currently so I haven't had a chance to weigh up my options yet and I haven't agreed to anything....I know could go badly or well but I've not heard much about it before or what to look out for or make sure of first other than my gut and the usual stuff when moving in anywhere...

[VoluptuousCurves]

Is he offering to pay your rent, or is this a flat he owns and is saying he'll let you stay there for free?

In either scenario, you need to make sure you have a proper tenancy agreement in your own name.

If the former, just say to him you'll need XXXX per month to cover your rent and bills, and you'll be happy to meet him X times a week in return. I would suggest he pays you via bank transfer.

If he owns the flat, he needs to be specific about what's included (and that needs to be laid out in the tenancy agreement.) Is he also going to pay your water, electric, gas, council tax, internet, etc?

If you don't have a tenancy agreement, then he can at any time claim you are a lodger and basically make you homeless. If you have a tenancy agreement then he'd have to go down the section 21 route which would give you a minimum of 2 months' notice to leave.

I would personally not go down the second route, it leaves you way too exposed. In case of the first scenario, I'd want to make sure I still have enough coming in every month to be able to pay my rent and bills, because he will end the arrangement at some point.

[LillyRose]

Is he offering to pay your rent, or is this a flat he owns and is saying he'll let you stay there for free?

In either scenario, you need to make sure you have a proper tenancy agreement in your own name.

If the former, just say to him you'll need XXXX per month to cover your rent and bills, and you'll be happy to meet him X times a week in return. I would suggest he pays you via bank transfer.

If he owns the flat, he needs to be specific about what's included (and that needs to be laid out in the tenancy agreement.) Is he also going to pay your water, electric, gas, council tax, internet, etc?

If you don't have a tenancy agreement, then he can at any time claim you are a lodger and basically make you homeless. If you have a tenancy agreement then he'd have to go down the section 21 route which would give you a minimum of 2 months' notice to leave.

I would personally not go down the second route, it leaves you way too exposed. In case of the first scenario, I'd want to make sure I still have enough coming in every month to be able to pay my rent and bills, because he will end the arrangement at some point.

It's a flat that he owns so he's offering me to have the flat to myself in exchange for an agreed amount of "companionship" every month instead of me actually paying rent. Right okay, I will definitely insist about a tenancy agreement if i go for it...Makes sense as to why.

 I already have other arrangement that i can rely on (Unofficial escorting still lets be real lol)to be very honest & i do other work so I wouldn't be completely fucked if he suddenly decided i needed to just pay rent. Because of it being in a sort of new area it would just really help me out for at least 6 months so i can pay for a course and get out of debt that I've just ignored & need to deal with. And I could really do with not having to come up with 5/6 months rent upfront. I'm not homeless so it's not a desperate situation to move, it's a case of considering opportunity that would make my plans so much quicker to get to & I fancy a change.

I'm not sure if I'd would want him overlook more than just the rent and possibly council tax just in case he becomes more demanding than I'd want but I haven't yet felt out the situation of what he's like yet or how his income comes across if you get me. I think bills and stuff i'd be fine dealing with myself. I'm going to chat with him properly tomorrow so we shall see how it seems at least a little bit more before i go and view the place etc etc.

Looks like a nice place from pics sent and ideal, just don't want to end up in silly situation based on impatience so trying to think of everything to make sure...

[katrina]

I've done this years ago, rented a house off a client and 'paid in kind' he seemed very professional and genuine but boundaries became blurred and the 'rent' increased, its not something I would consider ever again. Its all well and good having a tenancy agreement but will you be happy with a client knowing your real name and date of birth? What happens if you fall out with him...

[LillyRose]

How long did it work out for you? Ah yes that is the type of thing that does worry me with what you describe. There isn't really a lot that he could do with my real name & DOB because there are no links of those details to me anywhere on the internet so it would be difficult to link me to anyone i know or anything, be that business or personal. There is also no internet trail of me escorting anymore and it doesn't worry me as I pay my taxes etc and outing me holds no power over me, out me at your own risk haha.

[VoluptuousCurves]

If things got really shitty, would you be able to crash somewhere else in an emergency? If you have a back up plan e.g. go sleep on your mum's sofa, which would also allow you to complete your course, then I'd go for it, but you really need to nail things down in writing to protect yourself.

How long have you been seeing him? I'm curious that he has a flat that is presumably sitting empty right now and he's not already renting it out.

[LillyRose]

I have a friend I could crash a couple of miles a way if i needed to like the same night or something and yeah my mum lives about an hour away from that area if i didn't have a chance to sort something else properly out & it didn't work out as planned so I'd be a bit closer to family. I've spent the last couple of years wasting my money on complete crap & just the odd holiday so I don't feel like I have anything truly valuable to show for it so far so trying to change that as of recently & be "sensible".

Yeah will try and get everything down in writing if I agree, thank you for your advice

I don't know him well at all. I've only met him a few times as I've been more invested in someone else. I'm pretty curious too. As not spoken in proper detail yet i don't know what i really think yet. He comes across pretty professional but i don't have a proper connection like i have some where they are quite predictable and con-find in you about this and that.

[SweetAngel]

I wouldnt do that. Even with a contract its always risky. He might increase the "rent" and also he will have a key, your details and everything. I am usually bit paranoid and living in fear is not best option plus all the stress from escorting. Personally i think that its wiser if he just pays ur rent and bills but has to do nothing with the flat itself. Ways safer 

[LillyRose]

I wouldnt do that. Even with a contract its always risky. He might increase the "rent" and also he will have a key, your details and everything. I am usually bit paranoid and living in fear is not best option plus all the stress from escorting. Personally i think that its wiser if he just pays ur rent and bills but has to do nothing with the flat itself. Ways safer 

What is it you live in fear/paranoia about just out of interest? Do you mean your work being found out or? Well with this person he just owns the flat but doesn't live in it but who knows what will decide. I don't technically escort anymore so i don't need the place for clients. I like different people for different things, I'm not suited to full time escorting. The main thing i'm worried on is the danger factor of him being a psychopath or "rent" going up as you say but i'm sure if he's a half normal person and he wasn't happy with arrangement anymore maybe he would just accept my money instead like any other tenant, i would hope anyway.

[meetingdiversity]

I read some where another had the same arrangment little did she know he set up devices in the home so he could listen in to all conversations. Having your own contract for the house wont protect. He strangled her in the end after over hearing she was going to move and take all the money.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/sugar-daddy-murderer-who-left-12330849.amp

[Transexual247]

is sugar daddies only for female or can a transsexual make a profile on there too?

[sugar]

is sugar daddies only for female or can a transsexual make a profile on there too?

It's for all genders.

[Guiltypleasure]

I'd prefer to just do a straight forward 30 minute booking for ?70 than all that faff! I would hate to feel like I was begging 

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Sorry old thread it came up and I thought it was new soz but I still agree .