OWO or OW

[Roxy101]

Hey,

Just wondering how many of you do OW. Does it effect the amount of clients you receive? And will an agency take you on if you do OW?

Also, just wondering if you say you do OWO, could you decide to use a condom if the guy's todger is dirty/smells funny/looks like he could have something?

Thanks

[amy]

I only do oral with, and have absolutely no problems getting clients. I used to do OWO, and refusing it's no different to anything else - all services are at discretion and are provided on the assumption that a client meets basic standards of cleanliness and hygiene and this goes for everything including kissing. I doubt whether it has much to do with whether an agency will take you or not - all agencies are different and they only really want to know how much money they are likely to make out of you in the end. If they don't want you because of that, find one who does.

If you type 'OWO' into the search box on the top right you will find about a zillion threads already discussing this; seriously - I was going to post some links to the main ones and there were so many I gave up. Have a good read and it should help you decide what you want to do  .

[Harlow]

Hi,

 I have never offered owo & I never will! It has never effected my bookings and I have found that guys just chance me asking for  owo, but rarely have they been that botherd that they have refused to book me. I often found many clients ask if I do ow or owo as they prefer only seeing  a escort whom does not ever offer owo.

I respect it is personal choice as long as it is only a personal choice & not that you feel you should to benefit a agency or because of  client pressure.

I wish you well with what ever you choose, Harlow x

[Dani]

Hey,

Also, just wondering if you say you do OWO, could you decide to use a condom if the guy's todger is dirty/smells funny/looks like he could have something?

Thanks

In this case I wouldnt be putting my mouth anywhere near with or without a condom. If he is dirty/smells or looks like he has something he would be asked to leave

[Cherrylips]

I only ever do OW.  I did obviously ask myself the same questions as you when I first started but I am so glad I decided not to do OWO.  Business is always ticking over very nicely indeed. 

Apart from the obvious (very real) health reasons I also asked myself (on the other side of the coin) if I wanted a mouthful of rubber as I'd actually never given a blow job in my personal life with a condom so I wasnt sure what it would be like but its absolutely fine,  condoms have been much improved over the years and I don't even notice the smell or taste of them.  And even if I did - possible smelly willy or rubber?  Its a no brainer!! 

There are clients who will specifically look for girls who only do OWO and there are just as many clients who look for girls who only do OW.  I have been asked when the action has started whether i'll do it without by about 2 clients but I always say no of course and they have been fine with it.   

[Lucy Chambers]

I only ever do OW.  I did obviously ask myself the same questions as you when I first started but I am so glad I decided not to do OWO.  Business is always ticking over very nicely indeed.  

Apart from the obvious (very real) health reasons I also asked myself (on the other side of the coin) if I wanted a mouthful of rubber as I'd actually never given a blow job in my personal life with a condom so I wasnt sure what it would be like but its absolutely fine,  condoms have been much improved over the years and I don't even notice the smell or taste of them.  And even if I did - possible smelly willy or rubber?  Its a no brainer!!  

There are clients who will specifically look for girls who only do OWO and there are just as many clients who look for girls who only do OW.  I have been asked when the action has started whether i'll do it without by about 2 clients but I always say no of course and they have been fine with it.    

Ok, I wasnt going to post but I eyed this thread with interest. I do offer owo, but at my discretion. I only now offer this service, after spending ten years as a escort who didnt even kiss, let alone suck a willie unclothed.

I came back to work after a three year break and was horrified by the current market, bb, rimming, owo, etc. etc. But I also noticed something else. Many customers WANT to use a condom. Some do not. Many customers want to kiss, some do not. And so I do the same...I offer the service at my discretion, at a premium, I do it with some, I dont do it with most. It is entirely my call, annd if I was at all unhappy with the hygiene the condom would be out and on before they could say boo. I know I will get replies from ladies who say how could you? Health, hygeine, safety! And I also know that I will strike a silent chord with others who do it and revel in how much easier the booking was.

I am checked monthly, I frequent several 'working girl friendly clinics' and I always ask for mouth swabs. And for those of you still cringing, how many of you have given a unclothed bj to your current squeeze?

*retreats to corner, ready for backlash*

[amy]

Lucy, I edited the quoted bit of your post just for clarity  .

I can't imagine why you think there'd be any sort of backlash; the p0int of this site is that we support each other in all doing what we feel comfortable with and the important part as far as I'm concerned is that no one feels pressured by punters, other WGs, agencies or anyone else to offer services they don't want to, whether they be kissing, OWO or bareback. I personally couldn't give a toss what anybody else does, and having spent most of my twenties having largely unprotected sex of every kind with anyone who would stay still long enough, I for one am hardly in a position to get sanctimonious.

I have never advertised anything as 'at discretion', since as far as I am concerned ALL services are exactly that, and the idea that saying I offer a service without adding this phrase means I've foregone my right to refuse is just silly. As long as punters are clear on where the boundaries are, I don't think it matters - people for whom OWO is a dealbreaker just won't book me, and that's fine. That said, what a lady is prepared to do in the process of conducting her business is not something that can be usefully compared to what she engages with a regular partner - the two things are completely different.

[sammy s]

I do OWO but charge ?20 extra for it and If the guy doesnt look clean etc then I always just tell them that I have to do OW today as I have some mouth ulcers which could pick up infections (they always totally believe me and are fine about it).

[Lucy Chambers]

Lucy, I edited the quoted bit of your post just for clarity  .

I can't imagine why you think there'd be any sort of backlash; the p0int of this site is that we support each other in all doing what we feel comfortable with and the important part as far as I'm concerned is that no one feels pressured by punters, other WGs, agencies or anyone else to offer services they don't want to, whether they be kissing, OWO or bareback. I personally couldn't give a toss what anybody else does, and having spent most of my twenties having largely unprotected sex of every kind with anyone who would stay still long enough, I for one am hardly in a position to get sanctimonious.

I have never advertised anything as 'at discretion', since as far as I am concerned ALL services are exactly that, and the idea that saying I offer a service without adding this phrase means I've foregone my right to refuse is just silly. As long as punters are clear on where the boundaries are, I don't think it matters - people for whom OWO is a dealbreaker just won't book me, and that's fine. That said, what a lady is prepared to do in the process of conducting her business is not something that can be usefully compared to what she engages with a regular partner - the two things are completely different.


Hear hear. As to the backlash comment, you are correct.  I have had a heated dicussion with a fellow escort about this and perhaps it has influenced my post.

 

[Cherrylips]

Ok, I wasnt going to post but I eyed this thread with interest. I do offer owo, but at my discretion. I only now offer this service, after spending ten years as a escort who didnt even kiss, let alone suck a willie unclothed.

I came back to work after a three year break and was horrified by the current market, bb, rimming, owo, etc. etc. But I also noticed something else. Many customers WANT to use a condom. Some do not. Many customers want to kiss, some do not. And so I do the same...I offer the service at my discretion, at a premium, I do it with some, I dont do it with most. It is entirely my call, annd if I was at all unhappy with the hygiene the condom would be out and on before they could say boo. I know I will get replies from ladies who say how could you? Health, hygeine, safety! And I also know that I will strike a silent chord with others who do it and revel in how much easier the booking was.

I am checked monthly, I frequent several 'working girl friendly clinics' and I always ask for mouth swabs. And for those of you still cringing, how many of you have given a unclothed bj to your current squeeze?

*retreats to corner, ready for backlash*

God no I didn't mean to sound judgemental by saying this.  When I first started this job I thought I would probably do OWO but I decided not to and I'm just glad I made that decision but I know a lot of lovely ladies who do OWO, in fact of all the girls i've met doing this job I think i'm the only one who does do OW.  Its just what we feel comfortable with in ourselves isn't it?  Sorry if I sounded uppity.  I don't ever turn my nose up at anything anyone offers except BB which i'm sure we all do (turn our noses up I mean!).  And like you pointed out and I mentioned in my post, I hadn't even given a covered blow job until I started escorting.  Oh the irony.  LOL!    xx

[Emelie]

I do OWO, but charge ?20 extra as well. I don't want to incude it in my normal rates, since I would rather do OW, but don't have a problem with OWO.

[The Courtesan]

I used to offer OWO, but after reading a thread on here about something like this a little while ago, I have now decided to only to offer OW.  A couple of my regulars have said they are cool with my decision and I recently an enquiry where I told the guy that I no longer offer OWO - he said he would think about it  and then called back a few days later making an appointment to see me. 

I don't think it will make any difference with regard to the amount of clients that will want to see you.

[MissyNatalie]

Hey,  I'm new to escorting but noticed that a lot of girls offer oral without a condom. My concern is that you can contract STIs through this? Isn't like offering intercourse without  a condom then? I'm wondering if i should offer oral without as i cant face sucking on a condom tbh.
Help/advice would be appreciated thanks!
x

[xw5]

As you might imagine, this has come up before and a search for 'OWO' should find several threads on it.

But in short, yes there's stuff you can catch, but it's either curable (the bacterial ones) or you probably already have it anyway (like the cold sore virus). You'd have to be staggeringly unlucky to get HIV from it (especially if you don't offer CIM).

Ultimately, it doesn't matter what other people choose to do about this issue, it's up to you to make your own decision depending on where you are on the risk-reward / pleasure-danger scales.

Edit: yes, there are lots of threads about this See http://www.saafe.info/main/index.php?topic=314.0 and http://www.saafe.info/main/index.php?topic=2570.0 for example.

[amy]

My concern is that you can contract STIs through this? Isn't like offering intercourse without  a condom then?

Yes and no. You can certainly contract STIs via unprotected oral, but the risk is far, far lower than unprotected vaginal or anal penetration; reverse oral is lower still as is kissing - you could go on forever. The key is deciding what level of risk you are prepared to take and everybody's different - if it would be an absolute disaster for you to catch anything (for example if you had a partner who was unaware of your job, or if your immune system was compromised because of other factors) then it would probably be advisable to err on the side of caution. And all condoms are not the same - deciding not to protect yourself because you don't like the taste of rubber is unnecessary when there are non-latex and flavoured condoms and also flavoured lubes available.

If you type 'OWO' into the Search box you will find about a zillion threads discussing this as well as the article on the main SAAFE site - the only way to decide is to arm yourself with information. Have a chat with the people at the GUM when you go for your checks too  .