Is my outcall screening process too excessive for AW?

[honeymoonbarbie]

Hia,

I currently ask all new clients requesting outcalls to private residences to send me a scanned copy of a document with their name and address on it (usually a bill) and for clients requesting outcalls to hotels to send over their booking confirmation or room number so I can call and confirm. Alternatively they can send me info for a lady they've seen previously if she's happy to provide a reference.
 
However when requesting this on AW, it seems a lot of potential clients ask me why. My profile clearly states that screening is mandatory and yet I still have communications that stop suddenly as soon as I bring this up.

Although my screening process is generally suggested here on SAAFE, a lot of the girls I've spoken to from AW have almost balked at it because "noone is going to do that" or "clients want to be discreet".

Do only a small amount of ladies on AW screen further than first name and contact number?
Is it out of place having such an intense screening process?
Do you follow similar procedures when screening?

[OFFS]

Personally if the roles were reversed and they asked me for such information, I would not be happy to provide it. If they asked for a copy of my booking details at a hotel, then this gives away the name I book it under and can be very messy opening myself up to potential blackmailing scams.
Nine times out of ten, most of the clients I see use false names even if I go to their house. To ensure I am not getting caught out on fake bookings, I tend not to travel too far from home.
When I first started, I used the email system but soon learned after a year that many men do not want to join AW and use girls who show their numbers. This works for me now and you just have to use your intuition.
This may sound very sad to you, but quite often, they don't even offer a fake name and I don't ask....but that's just me.
If a guy texts or calls me and is asking all the wrong the questions and my gut says no, I politely decline and block.

[nemature]

I just do not visit private residences and ask for the room number of the hotel so i can phone and ask reception to be put through to that room number. I have never once needed to say the name of the person in the room that i was asking to be put through to. I have always spoken to the men before ringing the room to make sure i know the voice so i am sure i am speaking to the same person. I would not ask for the full name of anyone just as i would not expect them to ask for mine

[xSweetCheeksx]

I only do outcalls to hotels and they must have positive feedback. I don't see anyone for an outcall unless they have at least 3 positive feedbacks from active members.
I feel safe doing it this way as I always feel safer in a hotel knowing there's people around us plus the good feedback always helps.
I don't under any circumstances see anyone for an outcall who doesn't have any feedback unless I've seen them before for incalls.
I just feel that with outcalls, if they don't have any kind of feedback and i haven't met them, they could be anyone.
I've always gone by my gut instinct and it's served me well upto now.

[SweetAngel]

I don't  go to private residences. I secure myself when request from the client a cab - uber, adison lee or anything else that they are paying online through their card and there is no way to skip the payment.

[Kendall]

I only do them to hotels, I go on how they sound on the phone answer to how genuine they sound and if I'm still unsure I get a booking request on aw. Like incalls I just go on my gut feeling

[VoluptuousCurves]

I no longer do outcalls to homes unless I already know the client, but when I did, I used to use a similar screening process to what you've described.

If they didn't want to send me a copy of a utility bill I used to offer either sending me a bank deposit/amazon voucher (to be deducted from the cost of booking), or taking a photo of themselves by their front door, clearly showing the number.

If they are not willing to send this information then I wasn't willing to take a risk of going.

For hotels I always ask for the booking name and room number and call to check. I've never had anyone refuse to send this.

If you are not getting enough bookings, I would personally do some incall days in hotels rather than relax my security processes. Or consider working with a driver?

[Mariah]

Can I offer some advice based on my own personal experiences: it is slightly off topic in that it is not about the initial telephone screening as such, however, it is related to safety on outcalls and I think should form part of your screening when visiting a new customer for the first time. When your outcall had been arranged and you go to the premises, do NOT walk into a premises where the door has been left open for you i.e. you ring the doorbell and they say "the doors open, come in, I'm just in the shower/kitchen/on the phone, etc.". I went on an outcall that I had reservations about (which I will explain later) and when I arrived even more alarm bells started to ring. I knocked the door and did not receive an answer. I then knocked again and realised that the door was open. Opening the door just a crack and without stepping inside I called out quietly and said, "hello, it's so and so, I then heard a low voice call out, let yourself in the door is open. So I stepped inside and the person I was visiting was hiding behind the front door and closed and locked it behind me. From there on in it went badly downhill. I asked the person to open the door as I had changed my mind (he had lied to me)(when he called originally, I asked him if he was black and he said no and asked me why, I explained that I do not see black guys (prior to go independent, I've been robbed multiple times working in other people's flats and in saunas and avoided a further 6 attempted robberies by exercising this rule - first robbery was at gun point by a white guy, the next 4 actual robberies were black guys working singularly or in a pairs and six attempted robberies all of which were black - at that time I felt the amount of problem customers (as I did see black guys originally and the few that I saw were fine) compared to any other race who caused problems was vastly disproportionate. This also contributed to part of the overall reason why I gave up sex work - far too dangerous). Anyway back to the topic! I asked to leave and to cut a long story short, I was forced to have sex with someone I did not want too, physically roughed up, threatened, robbed and falsely imprisoned and held against my will for close to three hours (it was reported to the police). If he had opened the door as normal when I knocked, I would have had those few but critically important seconds to make a judgement call and walk away and sometimes it's those 4-5 seconds that could save your life. NEVER walk into an open door when you don't know what's behind it. Also when you ring the doorbell stand back from the door a few feet or slightly to one side of the door. If he opens the door and you decide that you've changed your mind and you don't want to stay when you've seen him, just politely say I'm sorry I've left my purse in the car, I'll be back in a second and walk away. (You can make your excuses later from the safety of the car).

[Mirror]

Hia,

I currently ask all new clients requesting outcalls to private residences to send me a scanned copy of a document with their name and address on it (usually a bill) and for clients requesting outcalls to hotels to send over their booking confirmation or room number so I can call and confirm. Alternatively they can send me info for a lady they've seen previously if she's happy to provide a reference.
 
However when requesting this on AW, it seems a lot of potential clients ask me why. My profile clearly states that screening is mandatory and yet I still have communications that stop suddenly as soon as I bring this up.

Although my screening process is generally suggested here on SAAFE, a lot of the girls I've spoken to from AW have almost balked at it because "noone is going to do that" or "clients want to be discreet".

Do only a small amount of ladies on AW screen further than first name and contact number?
Is it out of place having such an intense screening process?
Do you follow similar procedures when screening?

Yes I always asked for residency proof without fail, sure some don't like it, and some didn't book however it worked for me and I  never have had to report bring sent on a wild goose chase.

I now take a largish deposit, instead of residency proof. Once again many don't want to provide that, so I put it in my requirements for new clients on my profile and explain only contact me if you are able to provide this.

I guess it depends how much business and how many risks you are prepared to take. If you are OK with possibly being messed around, then you might not need to be as thorough.

[Mariah]

A lot of your enquiries no matter how genuine they might initially appear will never materialise in to a paid booking (basically low conversion rates) so I wouldn't worry too much about lots of enquiries versus not many bookings - a lot of them are dreamers/TW's any way.

Have you tried giving them your usual sexy verbal script to hook them in initially, then ask for the address, then the phone number (for home visits they have to have a landline), then ask them for their first and second name, tell them you need to do a quick check with directory enquiries to make sure that name and number is registered at that address, then call them back on THAT landline number to confirm they are actually at home. On the assumption that it's not ex-directory then a utility bill is not actually needed. If they don't pass that part of your initial check then you could say I'd love to visit but I need to be certain that you are who you say you are (for obvious reasons) and then suggest for the booking to take place there are a couple of other options, e.g. you pay either the full fee/deposit in advance OR if you have access to a recent utility bill that has your name and address on it then that would be fine and you can either email it and send it to me, or take a picture of the top half of the bill with your phone and send it to me by text or Whatsapp. As they've already told you where they live and who they are, they're already committed to the appointment taking place and even if it kills them to do it, most will OFFER you the utility bill because it's cheaper then the first option of a deposit. Basically a bit of reverse psychology. Then give them your assurances that you securely destroy/delete all information once you've safely returned from the booking. I think you have to do it in a certain order, i.e. the address first so in their own mind they're already thinking well she already knows everything else, what difference does it make if I give it to her now).

With hotels; name, address, room number and the name the room is booked in. Then tell them you will call them back in their room and ring the hotel directly and asked to be put through. I don't really see the need for a booking confirmation as such. What would concern me is if I turn up and they've given me the wrong name and I am forced to call up to the room via reception and I don't even have the correct name of the person.

[Mirror]

A lot of your enquiries no matter how genuine they might initially appear will never materialise in to a paid booking (basically low conversion rates) so I wouldn't worry too much about lots of enquiries versus not many bookings - a lot of them are dreamers/TW's any way.

Have you tried giving them your usual sexy verbal script to hook them in initially, then ask for the address, then the phone number (for home visits they have to have a landline), then ask them for their first and second name, tell them you need to do a quick check with directory enquiries to make sure that name and number is registered at that address, then call them back on THAT landline number to confirm they are actually at home. On the assumption that it's not ex-directory then a utility bill is not actually needed. If they don't pass that part of your initial check then you could say I'd love to visit but I need to be certain that you are who you say you are (for obvious reasons) and then suggest for the booking to take place there are a couple of other options, e.g. you pay either the full fee/deposit in advance OR if you have access to a recent utility bill that has your name and address on it then that would be fine and you can either email it and send it to me, or take a picture of the top half of the bill with your phone and send it to me by text or Whatsapp. As they've already told you where they live and who they are, they're already committed to the appointment taking place and even if it kills them to do it, most will OFFER you the utility bill because it's cheaper then the first option of a deposit. Basically a bit of reverse psychology. Then give them your assurances that you securely destroy/delete all information once you've safely returned from the booking. I think you have to do it in a certain order, i.e. the address first so in their own mind they're already thinking well she already knows everything else, what difference does it make if I give it to her now).

With hotels; name, address, room number and the name the room is booked in. Then tell them you will call them back in their room and ring the hotel directly and asked to be put through. I don't really see the need for a booking confirmation as such. What would concern me is if I turn up and they've given me the wrong name and I am forced to call up to the room via reception and I don't even have the correct name of the person.

I totally agree with your first paragraph, a high proportion of initial enquiries don't follow through. Many who say they can't do it, might not have booked or gone through with it anyway.

A booking is only a booking when it's happened.

[Mariah]

A booking is only a booking when it's happened.

...and when you're physically sitting there counting the cash!