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No, I don't avoid using those sites. Thankfully it doesn't happen too often.
When asked in a previous comment what makes your site different, one point you made was location based profiles.
As you have just said yourself, it's not unique to your site and I don't think it should be promoted as such or at all.

This discussion has really erupted a passion in many people here! My apologies if I have offended anyone. Really, I'm here to learn more about these concerns. Everything I've heard is really helpful. I will say regarding the location based profiles that it is a very different approach to most sites. Even if it doesn't appear that way.

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I have seen a few over the years, not many thankfully.
On E-I and AW
E-I took them down when they were made aware of it.
On AW it was when browsing and saw it in their descriptions. Couldn't link as havent a clue what the profiles were.
Apartment block names and street names, not apartment number.

In saying that, obviously I don't know if they were true independents or not.

I know of an independent who did publish her address on AW, she had had quite a few problems with substances and a violent boyfriend. Although I didn't know her personally, it looked like she just might not care - or at wasn't in a very good state of mind.

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I know of an independent who did publish her address on AW, she had had quite a few problems with substances and a violent boyfriend. Although I didn't know her personally, it looked like she just might not care - or at wasn't in a very good state of mind.

So I guess what I'm hearing that being able to post anything more than your city is a big no no for yourself, and also for other people you work with? That's basically the bottom line?

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Well I'm not going to cast an internet spotlight on any specific sites or individuals. I will say that with a few minutes of googling for places in say Australia, that has many openly legal establishments, it isn't uncommon for providers to include that address. I understand that isn't common or welcome across all regions.

Even if more than one or two of the people here were in Australia, nobody was talking about establishments. The people you're pitching to on this forum are independent and work from private premises, either alone or with a flatmate. They don't generally operate a drop in system.

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So I guess what I'm hearing that being able to post anything more than your city is a big no no for yourself, and also for other people you work with? That's basically the bottom line?

You can drill down a bit more specifically than the whole city, but I wouldn't want to get any more definite than a general area, e.g. Sheffield>Hillsborough or London>Chelsea.
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Even if more than one or two of the people here were in Australia, nobody was talking about establishments. The people you're pitching to on this forum are independent and work from private premises, either alone or with a flatmate. They don't generally operate a drop in system.

Well that's fine for me. I see there's some very strong feelings and opinions regarding how to approach presentation of your services. So those are really great differences to learn and understand. I think I'm going to disable listing anything other than showing a nearest major city for now. At least in our automated location service. I'm not sure how I can stop people from including addresses as part of their profile text at the moment, but it's something to consider.

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Where? In fifteen years of working and nine of them advertising online I don't think I have ever once seen an independent advertising their full address, and I'd be surprised to hear of any site that contains 'many' of these ads. Hotels occasionally yes. Addresses, no.

iv only ever seen one and it was a AW profile

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Great things take time, and with the help of others we'll build something great.

Forgive us for being a tad fed up with people like yourself constantly spamming about these issues, who have no clue about our industry or community yet expect us to give FB for free to help you out.

Oh yes and it's alway a superior and innovative site.

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Forgive us for being a tad fed up with people like yourself constantly spamming about these issues, who have no clue about our industry or community yet expect us to give FB for free to help you out.

Oh yes and it's alway a superior and innovative site.

Well first I think it's a bit odd that you've come to "Spamming in the Lions' Den" looking for anything else but spam! All jokes aside I would ask to consider the other side of the equation. As a person who has to use the sites providers advertise on I'm not very happy with many of the available offerings. I can only speak on my experience from the clients side, so I don't have a choice other than to ask for feedback. Let's be clear though. If you're not interested in creating a profile on the platform and telling us about your experience that's totally fine. People are busy or not interested. But you make it sound like I've asked you to change the oil in my car! I don't even want to do that!

I would love it if everyone who had such strong opinions about the service reserved their judgement until after they've tried it.

I've gone ahead and created a special URL for everyone here that will let you sign up. You don't even need to provide an email address.

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If you care to give it a try and then come back and trash it I would relish the opportunity. You can't improve anything without the harshest of criticism. There still needs to be a lot of work done which is why I was hoping to just start with a few people, but I'm opening up the gates here.
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I think I will wait to see if other service providers in Birmingham advertise on there as it looks London based and I really dont like the phone ringing for no reason, hope its a success

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As a person who has to use the sites providers advertise on I'm not very happy with many of the available offerings.

Ah, it'a punter.

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Ah, it'a punter.

Oh gosh, what am I now? I'm learning all kinds of new things today.

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Is it not possible to edit my own posts as an advertiser account? I would like to edit my OP with the open registration link for anyone interested here. Since I cannot post a second link with the registration invitation URL according to the rules.

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Well first I think it's a bit odd that you've come to "Spamming in the Lions' Den" looking for anything else but spam! All jokes aside I would ask to consider the other side of the equation. As a person who has to use the sites providers advertise on I'm not very happy with many of the available offerings. I can only speak on my experience from the clients side, so I don't have a choice other than to ask for feedback. Let's be clear though. If you're not interested in creating a profile on the platform and telling us about your experience that's totally fine. People are busy or not interested. But you make it sound like I've asked you to change the oil in my car! I don't even want to do that!

I would love it if everyone who had such strong opinions about the service reserved their judgement until after they've tried it.

I've gone ahead and created a special URL for everyone here that will let you sign up. You don't even need to provide an email address.

[removed - read the advertising rules]

If you care to give it a try and then come back and trash it I would relish the opportunity. You can't improve anything without the harshest of criticism. There still needs to be a lot of work done which is why I was hoping to just start with a few people, but I'm opening up the gates here.

I'm out. I've been nothing but polite. I simply said you have nothing new to offer

You can't take a polite appraisal of your site because I'm pointing out the above and being honest but critical

You are spamming in the Lions Den after all.

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I'm out. I've been nothing but polite. I simply said you have nothing new to offer

You can't take a polite appraisal of your site because I'm pointing out the above and being honest but critical

You are spamming in the Lions Den after all.

Well I hope I've been polite as well in the face of some very passionate opinions. Many of which provided a lot of great helpful info. Though I don't think it's fair to criticize things that you haven't tried. You can do it. There's no criticism police to stop you. But I'm not sure why you seem surprised in my response. I'm not looking for a polite appraisal. Hell, be as brutal as you can. I said before that I'll take on the harshest critics and use that for improvements. What I asked for was if anyone wanted to actually try it, and then grab your rotten tomatoes and prepare to chuck them at me. I like tomatoes, and I don't think a little mold is going to kill me.

You didn't even try it though.