The future as we know it?

[losthope]

Death

I hope your going to charge extra for that 

[VoluptuousCurves]

Does anybody know if it's true that most of these so called "Swinger Parties" are really clever marketing with the girls being paid as "Swinger hostesess", so in fact it's not really lovely girls wanting to get it on with older men or do genuine swinging parties exist. I've never been to a swinging party and never been invited to one

My BF took me to a club that he goes to quite frequently. It was grim as unwashed arseholes and I would definitely not go to another unless I was being paid. (even then I'd only go if in dire financial straits.)

However other women enjoy these events, it's very much horses for courses. If you enjoy MMf, moresomes, bukkake, I would definitely give it a go.

It definitely helped me realise that group sex isn't for me. Three is the magic number as far as I'm concerned!

[Lotus300]

The future for us? Maybe we will be replaced by robots?

Sex robots with fully functional genitalia to arrive next year and will cost up to ?12,000
The next generation of dolls are likely to be hyper realistic with features never seen before

Sex robots with fully functioning genitalia are set to hit the market next year and will cost up to ?12,000.

The next generation of dolls are likely to be hyper realistic with features never seen before.

They will have built-in heaters which so they have genuine body warmth and sensors that can react to touch.

RealDoll is made by Abyss Creations.....

If you want to read more

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But I imagine that these female robots will not tell the jokes as well as we do...

[KittenCandy]

Iv been doing this 10 years and I think over all it has declined slightly but not as much as we all think right now. Although the decline is noticeable we take notice more in the first few months of the year cause everything is slow and we're dipping into savings to pay bills, it's easy to forget the good times that are ahead (April and beyond hopefully) I guess we're all mega sensitive and definitely fed up of getting our glad rags on and not having the day we needed.

I believe there are lots of factors.. a huge one.. I was touring in a place last week advertising at ?70 for 30 mins fully inclusive, another girl that looked bloody stunning was doing an HOUR for ?50 everything included. How do I compete? The only plus side is I think guys are getting wise to these 'great offers'.

I think there's more clients around now though because over few years iv noticed a lot of really young attractive lads coming along where as 10 years ago it would have been generally your over 40's and maybe a party full of lads wanting a few girls, now it seems to be a kind of fashion with the young ones. The creepy, full mac kind of stigma has gone.

Xx

Perhaps for you. The majority of my clients are really old.

[Kay]

I'm coming up to three years as an escort, and my earnings have definitely dwindled a bit in the second half of my career compared with the first half; however, this could well be that I'm turning down more bookings as I've been busier in my civvy job. That said, it was last June-October when that was a big issue for me, and I do feel the past six months have been very, very quiet. Last month I only earned about 40 percent of what I did in February 2016 and August was my last decent month.

It's not really competition for me (as I'm a fat old bag) but I think the 'sugar babies' are definitely taking some traditional escorting business - popular with the deluded, skinflint or barebacking clients?

I also feel quite a few people just have less disposable income than compared with 4-5 years ago, and so have cut down on punting.

[Lotus300]

I have been doing this job for 10 years and I think the general trend is that the supply of sexual services is increasing. And I do not think the demand is increasing at the same rate.

The result? In my personal case, I am better for marketing, better in bed, better for psychology, but yet I make a little less money than 10 years ago.

[Wailing Banshee]

I think a lot can be said for all the documentaries about sex work. Now any Tom Dick or Harry thinks it's a good idea!

Whilst attempting  to break the stigma of sex work is good, the fact is the market is becoming saturated.

On another note it'll be interesting to see what Brexit does with escorts coming to work from Europe...

[Dexi Delite]

I've only been working in this industry for 6 years, and the only things I've noticed are more and more girls using social media as a way of advertising, rather than other internet advertising outlets.  I've thought about advertising on social media, as I'm sure there are girls out there who swear by it and get a lot or work from their social media accounts, but I have heard of several girls on here and elsewhere who have been outed by clients, other girls, strangers or friends.  Not to mention those computer savvie people who have managed to link a girls working profile to her private one, and I'm not sure it's worth the risk, no matter how careful a girl is in making sure her work profile isn't linked to her personal one.

I have also noticed this year (so far), has been a lot quieter than previous years (not sure if that's anything to do with Brexit and people panicking a bit).

[RR]

I started this in 2009/2010, I just had an AW page. I've always been independent.

From two retirements I've seen a massive increase - personally - in the use of social media. Honestly, I hate Twitter on civvy street but I'm never off my whoring Twitter, and it's consistently driven traffic to my site/AW. Like Dexie says though, its too easy to link the two - my work accounts are on my work phone, and I don't sign into my personal accounts via a computer anyway.

I expected to come back and be jumping in how busy it was, but I do think it's potentially been a period of instability for people overall and they're just playing it safe financially. I've never worried long term in escorting.

[lillith]

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Not to mention those computer savvie people who have managed to link a girls working profile to her private one, and I'm not sure it's worth the risk, no matter how careful a girl is in making sure her work profile isn't linked to her personal one.

Yeah, I've come across this in my limited experience. The biggest factor was photographs that were just "blurred" out being recognized and cross referenced to social media, it's difficult to counteract unless you don't have personal media.

[ParisB]

I think a lot can be said for all the documentaries about sex work. Now any Tom Dick or Harry thinks it's a good idea!

Whilst attempting  to break the stigma of sex work is good, the fact is the market is becoming saturated.

On another note it'll be interesting to see what Brexit does with escorts coming to work from Europe...

I've been thinking about that as well I wonder  if it will affect the amount of EE escorts working in the UK if they need to have visas to even visit in the future and even the possibility for those that are here living here presently and may need to prove there earnings that they have been self sufficent  and they they have had PMI for the past five years to get residency / citizenship

[micheleb]

I've been thinking about that as well I wonder  if it will affect the amount of EE escorts working in the UK if they need to have visas to even visit in the future and even the possibility for those that are here living here presently and may need to prove there earnings that they have been self sufficent  and they they have had PMI for the past five years to get residency / citizenship

I really have no idea how many escorts from the rest of the EU work in the UK, but from what I have seen here most are from the old block countries. I think, if brexit is finalized those from the old soviet block will have to prove they have paid taxes, etc to stay.
The ones for Western Europe on the other hand, probably there will be deals with their governments (France, Germany, Netherlands, Belgium, Austria, Switzerland, Italy, Spain and Portugal), since there is a good amount of britons in those countries that want to stay there, I think the one with more is Spain, especially retirees, I think Portugal is another one full of retirees, the other ones probably will be working age.

[ParisB]

I really have no idea how many escorts from the rest of the EU work in the UK, but from what I have seen here most are from the old block countries. I think, if brexit is finalized those from the old soviet block will have to prove they have paid taxes, etc to stay.
The ones for Western Europe on the other hand, probably there will be deals with their governments (France, Germany, Netherlands, Belgium, Austria, Switzerland, Italy, Spain and Portugal), since there is a good amount of britons in those countries that want to stay there, I think the one with more is Spain, especially retirees, I think Portugal is another one full of retirees, the other ones probably will be working age.

That's what I mean those that are here and are working legally will still have to prove that they have had private medical insurance for the time that they have been here plus loads of other information like where they have been for x amount of years and proof of this
If they have just been working here and flying back home every so often this could be a lot harder to do in the future

[micheleb]

That's what I mean those that are here and are working legally will still have to prove that they have had private medical insurance for the time that they have been here plus loads of other information like where they have been for x amount of years and proof of this
If they have just been working here and flying back home every so often this could be a lot harder to do in the future

I have a few friends from Western Europe working here, and I can tell you that they don't need health insurance because our NHS has deals with their countries iqual to NHS.
So let's imagine a country called 'XYZ' that has such a deal with the NHS, if a person from that country comes here they will have access to our NHS same as we do and the NHS sends XYZ the bill, and if you go to XYZ and get some treatment XYZ will send the bill to the NHS.
Regarding the flying back home (inside the EU), I'm sure there will be some type of expedited system like we have to Switzerland, Norway, USA, Canada, Japan, etc...

[ParisB]

I have a few friends from Western Europe working here, and I can tell you that they don't need health insurance because our NHS has deals with their countries iqual to NHS.
So let's imagine a country called 'XYZ' that has such a deal with the NHS, if a person from that country comes here they will have access to our NHS same as we do and the NHS sends XYZ the bill, and if you go to XYZ and get some treatment XYZ will send the bill to the NHS.
Regarding the flying back home (inside the EU), I'm sure there will be some type of expedited system like we have to Switzerland, Norway, USA, Canada, Japan, etc...

Apologies I meant here in the UK  but not working so not self sufficent.

if you are working here  at present like you said anyone  from  EU can use the NHS but if you aren't working or your self sufficent or a student and want to start the process for  residency and then british citizenship  the HO requires  proof of medical insurance for the last five years so if your working your fine but if your not working   so a maybe a wife who isn't working or a career for your parents  part of the requirement is proof of  medical insurance .

It's been the case for quite a while but the HO has not asked for medical insurance although they always could ask for it they didn't .
But since brexit they are asking for this proof if you want to start the residency process  there is a case at the moment in court as it not supposed to be legal as part of the EU is the same benefits for all citizens and eu members
I won't link to it but If you google the website free movement org it's all on there