The World's 1st Escorting App - Coming Soon

[Lucia88]

Another point - I deliberately use a dumb phone for work, and a lot of punters do the same. When the new version of the old Nokia comes out, I'm buying one! I'm thus never going to use an app.

Those old style phones are coming back in fashion because they didn't go out of date

[Fuber]

Good afternoon,

Will we kick people off and keep their Connects if they drop below a certain rating?

xW5 - absolutely yes we will kick people off if they drop below a certain rating. We are trying to build a community of reputable clients and escorts.

Will we keep their connects?

Absolutely not. We are planning on shaking up the industry and part of that will be our level of integrity.  We are aware this practice happens on Adultwork. Anything you earn is yours and yours alone (even if you have been bad and kicked out).

Will Fuber be hiding offshore with no one from the company to speak to?

We are a UK based limited company and we will have online live support.

How do I verify a client or give them directions if I can?t speak to them?

The idea behind Fuber is that the comms are kept within the confines of the app.  The message function is very easy to use.

In terms of verifying a client, we hope the feedback loop means that you have a strong system for verification. 

Re directions; with technology that?s easy. Without giving too much away, let?s just say our system allows you to keep your address discreet but also to direct your client effortlessly. All of these problems are easily solved by technology,  it just seems the industry has been slow to pick it up.

How do I report a bad client if I don?t have their number?

In terms of  reporting a bad client, we want to help with this and we are currently speaking to Ugly Mugs about how we can work together. We would welcome a conversation with everyone on this forum about how we can use tech to facilitate reducing bad clients.

Bad clients will be banned from this site and will not be able to create a new user account. All clients must verify themselves before connecting with escorts, so the ability for multiple accounts is massively reduced.

Will Fuber Block persistent time-wasters?

That is the important thing about Fuber.  The feedback loop will filter all these people out.  We aim to reduce timewasters in the industry.  If a client is a phone pest and gets reported we will investigate and deal with it.

In our experience, timewasters are the biggest issue therefore we have designed many features to combat this.

The pimps will make bookings to ensure anyone who isn?t part of their cartel/agency is kicked off.

Lost Hope ? this is definitely not going to happen. We have built the ability to ensure only one user can create an account from one location. Also, all users must verify.

As mentioned above we will have support you can actually contact so any issues like this we will be straight on top of.

We have developed a number of other tools/features that mean that pimps won?t be able to use our site for anyone they control either. We are a platform for open minded independents who want to work in a safe environment.

Do you have any other suggestions of how we can reduce this activity?

Happy girls make happy clients!

Great sentiment and freeing up time is exactly what we are going to do.  More time, more clients, more money.

Amy ? apologies for not responding earlier. The team were all in a meeting brain storming some of the comments that you have all raised and I left this forum open in another browser.

Amy, you have mentioned that we haven?t answered some questions raised.  Please do let me know if we have missed anything and I get back to the forum as soon as possible.

Thanks

Rach
Fuber Team

[Mirror]

I'd like to hear more about your rating system.

A lot of very genuine, reputable Escorts actually don't suit a 'rating' system.

For example I have a lot of regulars, and enquiries from men who don't want to use an App or website, they just want to phone up and book. Some book subsequent appointments face to face, don't use any other communication method apart from asking me to check my diary whilst I am with them.

Am I right in thinking that if I didn't see many clients, or many clients from Fuber that despite being very well established I could be removed because I wouldn't have any, or many ratings on your site? And vice versa, a busy new person could amass a great rating on the basis that they only use Fuber, and see high numbers of newbies?

[Lucia88]

Hi there

Where will you be operating from in terms of a business address and legal location, are you going to be an anonymous domain name with email and nothing else with no information about the people who are trusted behind the collection of data and the code of the app

I think you'll have a problem getting people to trust an anonymous source with their information and to allow the install an app from an unknown organisation because of the increased risks in allowing unverified apps to be installed on your phone as people would be uncertain as to the security of the app, they may have concerns that it's got flaws and vulnerabilities, apps have the ability to track users movements, and of course you have to trust the people behind the app especially if it's not open source meaning that other people can inspect the programming code to make sure that it does what it says on the tin so to speak

[amy]

Re directions; with technology that?s easy. Without giving too much away, let?s just say our system allows you to keep your address discreet but also to direct your client effortlessly. All of these problems are easily solved by technology,  it just seems the industry has been slow to pick it up.

Well mine will be, yes, since I don't give it out to anybody and even punters who have visited don't get it. I talk them to my door when they arrive at my landmark and there is no other way for them to reach me - I suppose I could type out everything I say in full but that would take forever and doesn't help if they're in the wrong place or go the wrong way. On the phone that takes seconds to fix - do you seriously think a punter who may be nervous or excited and has never been to my town before will want stand in the middle of a busy street playing ping pong 'messages' when he gets lost? And you're saying that this is the 'slow' way to do it; are you familiar with the expression that starts 'if it ain't broke?'

Out of interest, will people working from hotels be required to enter their hotel.details and room number into your site? When will this be given to the punter and in what form - most of us would never text or email a room number because this means it can be shown to somebody else, which is why we only give them ovsr the phone.

Also, all users must verify.

Talk us through this, please.

[amy]

Amy ? apologies for not responding earlier. The team were all in a meeting brain storming some of the comments that you have all raised and I left this forum open in another browser.

Having just sat down to check my emails, I see that despite this busy meeting one of you found the time to go onto my website, find my email address (which is nothing to do with SAAFE) and send me a lengthy email at 1019 this morning touting your wares and whiffling on about this forum. How fucking dare you? In what universe is pestering forum staff and/or members off this board an acceptable way to behave? If you want to ask the SAAFE administration team something, you use the SAAFE admin email address as instructed in the advertising rules. Although I strongly suggest you don't do that today.

Everybody else take note that the time they claim not to have had to respond to your posts was in fact being spent sending me the following:

Good Morning Amy, I noticed you are an admin on SAAFE.  I am the Rachel who is posting on the 'Spamming in the Lion's Den' under the username Fuber.  As you have seen we are coming to market with a new product soon with the goal of helping the lives of working escorts.

My question is; is it possible to post an anonymous survey for some of the escorts to take asking some general industry questions such as what features would you like to see, what do you consider to be the biggest hurdle in the life of an escort etc?

We would obviously post it under the Fuber Username but we wouldn't be advertising, it would just be a research and information exercise which is fully anonymous with no branding. 

It would help us develop further features based on feedback in a non biased environment.

What do you think?

Thanks

Rach

Team Fuber

The answer, incidentally, is no. The people posting here are telling you what they think already and expecting them to waste even more of their time doing your halfarsed market research for free when there are already dozens of threads asking and answering exactly the same thing already on the board is, put politely, optimistic.

In fact given the above, I'd be extremely careful what you post full stop. And consider yourself lucky that 'tech' has yet to advance enough to allow physical contact via a laptop.

[Kay]

"How do I verify a client or give them directions if I can�t speak to them?

The idea behind Fuber is that the comms are kept within the confines of the app.  The message function is very easy to use.

In terms of verifying a client, we hope the feedback loop means that you have a strong system for verification. 

Re directions; with technology that�s easy. Without giving too much away, let�s just say our system allows you to keep your address discreet but also to direct your client effortlessly. All of these problems are easily solved by technology,  it just seems the industry has been slow to pick it up."

I never, ever put my full address in writing, in any format. I give clients the post code and suggestion of where to park, get dropped off, walk to etc., then they need to call me to get my door number.

Likewise, I'm never going to send complete strangers my passport details etc. to verify.

I feel your app may - may - work for a certain type of escort/punter (i.e. those who aren't bothered about anonymity and do everything by text), but certainly it's no good for me or how I work. 

[Fuber]

Good evening,

Amy, apologies for contacting you through your personal email address.  I was keen to ?ask permission? from an admin and as you have a link to your profile at the bottom I thought who better to ask?  Apologies for over stepping the mark.  What we are trying to do during this exercise is garner information to make Fuber better whilst not breaking any forum rules. We thought a survey would be a good way to collect data that could be used to improve the service we are developing for the industry,  but are happy to keep it within the forum if you think that is best.

How does the booking and directions work?

Amy and Kay - Re your questions about the booking process ref location, directions etc. We can not give out any more details, but rest assured the majority of your concerns are taken care of in the app.

You will not be required to give out you full address. We know discretion is important and we want to help facilitate that.

We have also called a meeting tomorrow to discuss an issue you raised to brainstorm this.

How does your rating work?

Our rating system works by the escort and the client rating each other after a booking. 

It is not about the number of ratings you have, it is about not having bad ratings. So if you see a client outside of Fuber, this will not count against you as there will not be a rating. Within Fuber you are not penalised for not having lots of good ratings, but you are penalised for having bad ratings. We hope this will help reduce time wasters.

However due to Fuber being a full bookings and diary management system you may want to encourage them to book you through Fuber as then you will not have to spend time explaining when you are free.

Are you UK Based? Will you be on an anonymous domain?

Lucia88, thanks for engaging with us.  We are a UK based Ltd company with UK based support staff who will be online during working hours to support you via live support. 

Our domains will be hosted on AWS (Amazon Web Services) when we launch.

Does the App need to be installed?

Fuber is a web app therefore it is not installing anything on your phone. You can ?bookmark? the mobile homepage so when you click the bookmark on your phone it will open the mobile app.  We do not store anything on your phone. 

Is there a strong verification system?

Kay ? yes there is. We verify everyone personally. We record their IP addresses to check they have not had multiple accounts or accounts that have been blocked.

[losthope]

Bad clients will be banned from this site and will not be able to create a new user account. All clients must verify themselves before connecting with escorts, so the ability for multiple accounts is massively reduced.


Did you say you have girls from the industry ? whats their view on this ? I cant see many clients verifying their details on an escort app

[losthope]

I think this app will be good for the foreign girls with limited English, I dont think it will suit me, I need to hear a voice before I accept a booking, I also run a phone number search, I would not feel comfortable with an app to make a booking for a person I havent spoken to and no number to check on. Good luck though guys, hope it works out

[Lucia88]

I think this app will be good for the foreign girls with limited English, I dont think it will suit me, I need to hear a voice before I accept a booking, I also run a phone number search, I would not feel comfortable with an app to make a booking for a person I havent spoken to and no number to check on. Good luck though guys, hope it works out

Yeah I totally agree, although I'm relatively new to working (Less than six months now but working towards full time with my first major tour of the UK soon) I seem to do probably 95% of my verification just on the sound of the client, so yeah that would be totally important, feedback can always be faked, think of how many fakes are on ebay

[amy]

Amy, apologies for contacting you through your personal email address.  I was keen to ?ask permission? from an admin and as you have a link to your profile at the bottom I thought who better to ask?  Apologies for over stepping the mark.  What we are trying to do during this exercise is garner information to make Fuber better whilst not breaking any forum rules. We thought a survey would be a good way to collect data that could be used to improve the service we are developing for the industry,  but are happy to keep it within the forum if you think that is best.

If you want to ask a SAAFE admin something about the SAAFE forum, you email the SAAFE admin address as found on the main SAAFE site, as instructed by the SAAFE advertising rules which are at the top of this board. I'm literally staggered that you thought this was acceptable.

Amy and Kay - Re your questions about the booking process ref location, directions etc. We can not give out any more details, but rest assured the majority of your concerns are taken care of in the app.

What exactly is the point of us asking questions when you won't answer any of them? You've ignored my point about hotels and I still don't believe for a second that there's some mystical way I can direct punters to my flat without speaking to them or giving out my location in a way that it could be recognised (note I didn't say my address because the entrance to my flat doesn't have one) whether they get lost or not.

To quote my learned colleague:

The other thought is if you tell us more about what this service is, you'll save a lot of time (and quite possibly money).

If it's something that's so secret that it can't be discussed, that spells doom in itself - if it's that great but easy to take the idea and run with it, someone like AW with a lot more resources (computing, users, money) will quickly duplicate it and crush you. If it's that great, but not easy to do, telling us will just build demand for it.

As it is, the suspicion will be that you're thinking that everyone likes tea and chocolate, so the world needs a chocolate teapot.

As for IP verification, if that's the best you can come up with I suggest you start working on a Plan B. Even I know how to hide/change my IP address.

We have also called a meeting tomorrow to discuss an issue you raised to brainstorm this.

Whose brain will you be using?

[Mirror]

 I'm thinking perhaps the app pinpoints the users location, including that of the SP they are visiting, and directs them in like a sat nav?

[SimplySinful]

If you want to ask a SAAFE admin something about the SAAFE forum, you email the SAAFE admin address as found on the main SAAFE site, as instructed by the SAAFE advertising rules which are at the top of this board. I'm literally staggered that you thought this was acceptable.

What exactly is the point of us asking questions when you won't answer any of them? You've ignored my point about hotels and I still don't believe for a second that there's some mystical way I can direct punters to my flat without speaking to them or giving out my location in a way that it could be recognised (note I didn't say my address because the entrance to my flat doesn't have one) whether they get lost or not.

To quote my learned colleague:

As for IP verification, if that's the best you can come up with I suggest you start working on a Plan B. Even I know how to hide/change my IP address.

Whose brain will you be using?

All what I was thinking ( and no doubt most others)

And your last comment  Amy, priceless

[VoluptuousCurves]

Fuber is a web app therefore it is not installing anything on your phone. You can ?bookmark? the mobile homepage so when you click the bookmark on your phone it will open the mobile app.  We do not store anything on your phone.

So the "world's first escorting app" isn't an app, it's a website with a responsive mobile version 

Do you REALLY think punters are going to verify their identity with an unknown website just so they can pay to use your website to send messages to escorts? Why the fuck would anyone do that when they can just pick up their phone and contact an escort directly and not worry about sending off their passport into the ether, possibly to come back to bite them in the arse in two years? Did we learn nothing from the Ashley Madison debacle?

You said your site team included people from "within the industry" - is this pimps? I find it hard to believe you've got any indie sex workers on board who would possibly think this thing has legs.