Regular not paying

[Mirror]

I utterly despise men like this. Fortunately, I've only had a couple that I have had to deal with over the 18 months that I've been doing this job. It's showing total disrespect to you. If you're anything like me, I dislike the majority of men. Of course, there are exceptions - I don't hate them all - but in my experience most men treat women badly and that's putting it politely.

So, why do these men expect your time for free knowing full well what you do? The answer to me is blindingly obvious. It's because they are utter *****!

Isn't that because you are dealing primarily with men? I have found it's easy to assume men treat women badly, because I'm mostly only coming into contact with men. Speaking with my other half, who is involved in a company run by men, it seems customers can be similarly demanding, difficult and liberty taking whoever they are dealing with.

[Gypsy]

Isn't that because you are dealing primarily with men? I have found it's easy to assume men treat women badly, because I'm mostly only coming into contact with men. Speaking with my other half, who is involved in a company run by men, it seems customers can be similarly demanding, difficult and liberty taking whoever they are dealing with.

I've had same experiences in civvy life unfortunately. I can see what you are saying though 

[Adele7]

I've had similar situations in the past, actually, a few a lot worse. It lead me to be very professional in the business. I do not go anywhere for free, not even for 5minutes.
I know exactly how you feel and hope you put this behind you very soon xx

[CLondonGal]

I've had similar situations in the past, actually, a few a lot worse. It lead me to be very professional in the business. I do not go anywhere for free, not even for 5minutes.
I know exactly how you feel and hope you put this behind you very soon xx

Thank you. I keep thinking that it would be a lot worse if we had sex. It's a great lesson to always ask for the money upfront and to make it obvious that I expect to be paid for my time, in and out of the bedroom.

[NikitaS]

Hi Becca, i think you may save the situation if you are willing to have a sugarbaby arrangement.

Just forget about asking for money for that evening. But you could meet him again and propose an arrangement, like 500 a week, where you see him as a girlfriend . i feel that's what he is looking for. It would be less stressful for you than straight escorting and he would have to pay in advance on your bank account. Then you would text everyday and meet once or twice. It may work, if you like him enough.

[Ruby Redhead]

I'd ask for the 1hour fee, not bother seeing him again and take it as a lesson.
I think it's actually unfair to ask for 6hr fee after it has happened because you are annoyed.... if I was him, I'd be thinking "you didn't tell me before it would cost me 6hrs".... it's the same as going to a hairdresser, asking for a blow dry which costs ?20 and they giving  you a full colour, cut, hair mask and asking for ?300 once it's done. Would you pay the ?300 happily?

Always, always discuss the price before a booking. Even if it's social time and sex after, set the price before hand so there is no confusion. E.g., "okay so that 2hr social time at X amount and 1hr private time at X amount"
Never let a client decide when or what to pay you!! You are the boss, you set the price, you set the rules. Obviously be nice about it but you need to be upfront at all times.
And always ask for the money upfront "shall we sort paper work first... business before pleasure" etc
If things go on longer than expected that the money can be sorted when the planned time has finished.

I'm afraid, as shitty as this situation is, I feel you only have yourself to blames. And I'm sure you've learnt from it and won't allow it to happen again :-)

Xxx

[CLondonGal]

Hi Becca, i think you may save the situation if you are willing to have a sugarbaby arrangement.

Just forget about asking for money for that evening. But you could meet him again and propose an arrangement, like 500 a week, where you see him as a girlfriend . i feel that's what he is looking for. It would be less stressful for you than straight escorting and he would have to pay in advance on your bank account. Then you would text everyday and meet once or twice. It may work, if you like him enough.

Given the type of meetings that we had before it seems like the natural path, right? We even discussed it once very briefly but I don't think he's the sugar daddy type. I've had sugar daddies in the past and they were immediately more generous than him and I'm also not interested in seeing him again.

I'd ask for the 1hour fee, not bother seeing him again and take it as a lesson.
I think it's actually unfair to ask for 6hr fee after it has happened because you are annoyed.... if I was him, I'd be thinking "you didn't tell me before it would cost me 6hrs".... it's the same as going to a hairdresser, asking for a blow dry which costs ?20 and they giving  you a full colour, cut, hair mask and asking for ?300 once it's done. Would you pay the ?300 happily?

I understand that and if he had said "oh I'm really sorry, can I meet you today/this week and give you your fee?" when I complained I would only charge him for one hour. However his reply was that he would give me the money later (but when?) and that he thought that I had enjoyed myself as much as him. Not only that but he also didn't reply to my last text.
Even though it's my fault that I am in this situation if he had treated me with respect and tried to make it up to me as soon as I complained I would also extend him that courtesy and charge my one hour fee as before.
I think this is a valuable lesson for me - to always charge for the entire time I am with a client and ask for the money upfront (even if he's a regular) but I also think that it should be a lesson for him - to respect and expect to compensate an escort for her time, regardless of what they are doing together.

[BlaqHarlot]

This client was well and truly trying to take the mick. He was delusional enough to think you were there JUST because you liked his company when in fact it is your job and you should've been getting paid. This happened to me about two years ago and I did outcalls with this client so I had his home address, he ignored my email asking for payment politely so I sent him a text, and said very nicely, that I can always come to his home and pick up my fee in person if he likes.
He replied instantly and sent it via bank transfer then attempted to apologise, a few weeks later he tried to book me again but I let him know, I knew he was trying to pull a fast one and that I won't see him again.

You say you have his information, you could say something similar to me, and state if it's convenient you can pick up the hour fee you are owed in person or you can send him an invoice my post. Hopefully this should make him realise you aren't to be messed with and that he is in the wrong. Sometimes with clients like this it's best to be firm, and straight with them so they understand it's not tolerated and hopefully they don't do it again.

I hope you manage to get your fee, If and when you do, make sure you don't see this twat again who clearly doesn't respect you enough to pay for your time. X

[sweetmilf]

If you're anything like me, I dislike the majority of men. Of course, there are exceptions - I don't hate them all - but in my experience most men treat women badly and that's putting it politely.

Did anything bad happen, Gypsy? hope you're ok xx

OP, if you have not posted the details about this punter on saafe, it might be worth doing so.  xx

[Gypsy]

Did anything bad happen, Gypsy? hope you're ok xx

OP, if you have not posted the details about this punter on saafe, it might be worth doing so.  xx

Yes, I'm okay thank you. I've survived so far xx

[sweetmilf]

Glad to hear xxx

[CLondonGal]

I texted him today with my bank details and requested that my fee for the entire time we were together to be paid into that bank account as soon as possible. He said that it was very unreasonable of me and that he was happy to meet me next Monday at my flat and pay for 2 hours of my time regarding last week's encounter.
I think that if he wasn't going to pay he simply wouldn't reply. I also think that he's just trying to see me again and using this money as an excuse...but I could be wrong. I am going to wait till next Monday and once this issue is resolved I'll post his details on the Warning board.

[BlaqHarlot]

I texted him today with my bank details and requested that my fee for the entire time we were together to be paid into that bank account as soon as possible. He said that it was very unreasonable of me and that he was happy to meet me next Monday at my flat and pay for 2 hours of my time regarding last week's encounter.
I think that if he wasn't going to pay he simply wouldn't reply. I also think that he's just trying to see me again and using this money as an excuse...but I could be wrong. I am going to wait till next Monday and once this issue is resolved I'll post his details on the Warning board.

He really must think highly of himself!
What's unreasonable is the fact he did not pay you for the time he was supposed to and that he assumed you were there for free.

He may well be genuine and may well see you next Monday but he could also come up with some excuse next week as to why he can't meet and then string you along for as long as he can so be very wary. If you do see him next Monday make sure to get the cash upfront, and finish bang on two hours so he knows you're not one to be messed about again.

Hope it works out. X

[sweetmilf]

I'm no men hater or anything but if women don't get very assertive, then they will walk all over you.  I name it, cowboy punters, they think they can get it all free, they do exist, and you will meet them.