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Re: Would you see a client that visits Transexuals?
« Reply #30 on: 29 June 2017, 12:40:58 am »
I don't date men who have sex with other men or transexuals in my personal life. Maybe that makes me Transforic or gayphobic . It's not soo much the HIV risk it's more the "ick factor", it plainly puts me off (or turns me off).

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And I have nothing against transexuals (god forbid), they're lovely people. In my private life I have transexual, bisexual and gay friends and I love them to bits.

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Re: Would you see a client that visits Transexuals?
« Reply #31 on: 29 June 2017, 01:03:19 am »
Wow.

 I may love a friend to bits but not want to have sex with him/her. On the other hand I may not love someone at all but want to fu-k his brains out. It's that strange thing called sexual chemistry.
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Re: Would you see a client that visits Transexuals?
« Reply #32 on: 29 June 2017, 06:46:15 am »
I may love a friend to bits but not want to have sex with him/her. On the other hand I may not love someone at all but want to fu-k his brains out. It's that strange thing called sexual chemistry.

Yes but you've said you wouldn't fancy them on the basis they are transexual, or have sex with men. Not on the individual attraction or not.

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Re: Would you see a client that visits Transexuals?
« Reply #33 on: 29 June 2017, 09:04:41 am »
I have a close friend who is a transgender guy, and practices safe sex always (we talk about stuff ha ha) so to the OP who may just be a little bit ignorant (no offence not everyone gets it) about trans people, they are the same as anyone as in if they are going to be careless they are going to be careless regardless of who they are.

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Re: Would you see a client that visits Transexuals?
« Reply #34 on: 29 June 2017, 09:14:34 am »
I have a close friend who is a transgender guy, and practices safe sex always (we talk about stuff ha ha) so to the OP who may just be a little bit ignorant (no offence not everyone gets it) about trans people, they are the same as anyone as in if they are going to be careless they are going to be careless regardless of who they are.

And our practices should always take what we don't know into accoumt.

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Re: Would you see a client that visits Transexuals?
« Reply #35 on: 29 June 2017, 09:18:17 am »
I don't date men who have sex with other men or transexuals in my personal life. Maybe that makes me Transforic or gayphobic . It's not soo much the HIV risk it's more the "ick factor", it plainly puts me off (or turns me off). Maybe it's that side of my brain telling me "too much competition girl", I don't know. If a client told me I would be turned off by it. I've ha d a couple of clients tell me they were bisexual and I lost all sexual interest in them, my libido just...dropped. I don't think the OP's question is that outrageous to be honest. And I have nothing against transexuals (god forbid), they're lovely people. In my private life I have transexual, bisexual and gay friends and I love them to bits. I believe Heterosexual womens brains are wired in "certain ways".

Well yep that certainly makes you both transphobic and biphobic. And saying 'I have
  • friends' doesn't take that away, just as it's possible for racists to have black friends and for sexist men to have girlfriends  ::)


No one's saying you have to fuck your friends, but making a statement like 'I would never sleep with anyone trans or bi' i.e. making a blanket generalisation like that is phobic.

I would echo what someone else said and ask if you wouldn't see clients who've had anal sex with men or trans women, would you also not see clients who've had anal sex with female escorts too?

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« Reply #36 on: 29 June 2017, 09:40:11 am »
I agree that we live in 21st Century where derogatory comments towards particular minority groups (racial/ethnic/colour, religion, sexual orientation etc etc) are seen as " you put what you think it is".  Let's put it this way, these distorted thinking can be very dangerous as you make yourself look as if you think you are superior in some ways and other are not.  That's a very narcissistic pattern of thinking. 

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Re: Would you see a client that visits Transexuals?
« Reply #37 on: 29 June 2017, 09:52:19 am »
And our practices should always take what we don't know into accoumt.

Quite a lot of us have said this in our various ways. Screen and have the same rules for everyone you see, regardless of.....God I shouldn't even have to say it, ethnicity, race, religion, sexuality, sexual practices, because you only know what they CHOOSE to tell you!

You only have control over your own sexual health, you cannot control anyone else's so look after your own.

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Re: Would you see a client that visits Transexuals?
« Reply #38 on: 29 June 2017, 10:20:39 am »
Yes but you've said you wouldn't fancy them on the basis they are transexual, or have sex with men. Not on the individual attraction or not.

I have a dear gay male friend who broke up with his partner because partner was bisexual and it was causing all sorts of sexual issues in the relationship. He doesn't date bisexual men since them. By your rule of thumb that would make him sexist or women phobic (as he won't date men who sleep with women).I used to have a bisexual boyfriend 10 years agi and we had all sorts of sexual issues (the bad kind) and broke up. It was a nightmare. In my case I don't sexually fancy bisexual men or transgender. I happily have them as friends, flatmates and family but I don't like to sleep with them. Homophobic? Don't think so.
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Re: Would you see a client that visits Transexuals?
« Reply #39 on: 29 June 2017, 11:22:56 am »
I have a dear gay male friend who broke up with his partner because partner was bisexual and it was causing all sorts of sexual issues in the relationship. He doesn't date bisexual men since them. By your rule of thumb that would make him sexist or women phobic (as he won't date men who sleep with women).I used to have a bisexual boyfriend 10 years agi and we had all sorts of sexual issues (the bad kind) and broke up. It was a nightmare. In my case I don't sexually fancy bisexual men or transgender. I happily have them as friends, flatmates and family but I don't like to sleep with them. Homophobic? Don't think so.

Well yeah correct, I would call him biphobic if he doesn't see men who have slept with women. That kind of discrimination is rampant in the LGBT community. No matter how you play it, if you won't date someone who is bi or trans purely on the basis of them being bi or trans then there is an ick factor that you have with it. Just because you have bi or trans friends it doesn't take that away.

No one's telling you who you have to sleep with as that's your choice, but your choice is still discriminatory. I'm bi and I've come across loads of gold star lesbians who turn their noses up at bi women. It's common, and it sucks.

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Re: Would you see a client that visits Transexuals?
« Reply #40 on: 29 June 2017, 12:59:41 pm »
Offering services and attraction/preferences in personal life are two different things. The OP was asking for opinions on what people think/do with regards to this job (I assume with regards to health concerns).

I think it is good to discuss such things no matter what the differences of opinions are.

F@ck knows how this applies to this job, but the Equality and Human Rights Commission defines discrimination treating a person unfairly because of who they are or because they possess certain 'protected' characteristics (race, sexual orientation etc).

Refusing service to a client because they are associated with someone who has a protected characteristic, can be considered 'discrimination by association'.

There can be 'reasonable reasons' where it is not considered (unlawful) discrimination if you refuse/treat someone with protected characteristics unfairly. eg perceived health-related concerns, incompatibility in sexual orientation, ethical reasons etc. (this is my interpretation how 'lawful discrimination' may apply to this job)

That being said, I personally agree with others here, it is unfair to generalize about TS with regards to health concerns or anything really, and there is no way knowing anyway what any client we see has been up to or carries in their system. But see the last paragraph above, anyone can make their own choices.
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Re: Would you see a client that visits Transexuals?
« Reply #41 on: 29 June 2017, 01:50:54 pm »
Offering services and attraction/preferences in personal life are two different things. The OP was asking for opinions on what people think/do with regards to this job (I assume with regards to health concerns).

I think it is good to discuss such things no matter what the differences of opinions are.

F@ck knows how this applies to this job, but the Equality and Human Rights Commission defines discrimination treating a person unfairly because of who they are or because they possess certain 'protected' characteristics (race, sexual orientation etc).

Refusing service to a client because they are associated with someone who has a protected characteristic, can be considered 'discrimination by association'.

There can be 'reasonable reasons' where it is not considered (unlawful) discrimination if you refuse/treat someone with protected characteristics unfairly. eg perceived health-related concerns, incompatibility in sexual orientation, ethical reasons etc. (this is my interpretation how 'lawful discrimination' may apply to this job)

That being said, I personally agree with others here, it is unfair to generalize about TS with regards to health concerns or anything really, and there is no way knowing anyway what any client we see has been up to or carries in their system. But see the last paragraph above, anyone can make their own choices.

lol yep and when they're in the door I have seen some right shockers Lord !
to be honest could be as 'straight' as a ruler but yep, F@ck that ! and I have !

couldn't give a shit about anything apart from being nice, pleasant,clean etc

My 'jimmy Saville' with constant coke nose has sprung to mind " do anything to me baby" (of course your really turning me on ) ....uuuuugh!

yep  I couldn't get him going but "his little 50 quid bird from Thailand or somewhere can" his words!!!
 (feel so sorry for whoever she is, bet she loves him)

give me 5 transgender or basically anyone at once rather than him !!!!

plus I love sorting out hair make up etc ..(not that mines great but its fun) so Id have a TS party , like ann summers with a twist xxx

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Re: Would you see a client that visits Transexuals?
« Reply #42 on: 29 June 2017, 02:00:35 pm »
F@ck knows how this applies to this job, but the Equality and Human Rights Commission defines discrimination treating a person unfairly because of who they are or because they possess certain 'protected' characteristics (race, sexual orientation etc).

Refusing service to a client because they are associated with someone who has a protected characteristic, can be considered 'discrimination by association'.

There can be 'reasonable reasons' where it is not considered (unlawful) discrimination if you refuse/treat someone with protected characteristics unfairly. eg perceived health-related concerns, incompatibility in sexual orientation, ethical reasons etc. (this is my interpretation how 'lawful discrimination' may apply to this job)

Personal services (such as those offered by a carer whose duties may include dealing with people in states of undress or when using toilets and so on) have various exemptions regarding gender preference especially, and I would imagine similar would apply to prostitution since it's unlawful to force anyone to have sex with someone they don't want to. There are similar exceptions when it comes to ethnicity and authenticity in public-facing roles; a theatre hiring actors to play Othello may advertise for a black actor and a Chinese restaurant may advertise for ethnically Chinese waiting staff.

I'm avoiding the thread generally because some of the posts have been so utterly repulsive, but hopefully it can take a more sensible tone now. If it doesn't can somebody please report it and I'll lock it; I notice there's a new pregnancy thread too so it's not as if the pearl clutchers don't have plenty to be getting on with.

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Re: Would you see a client that visits Transexuals?
« Reply #43 on: 29 June 2017, 03:22:40 pm »
Use your own gut instincts, they are there for a reason, everyone is different and I doubt that anybodies opinion is going to change the way you think or feel about this, but don't do anything that will make you feel uneasy, its all very well treating people equally etc... but treat yourself just as equal by not doing anything you aren't comfortable with. Its your body and your mind.

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Re: Would you see a client that visits Transexuals?
« Reply #44 on: 29 June 2017, 03:59:23 pm »
One of my regulars told me he has considered seeing a ts.
He is curious to experience giving a bj but does not fancy men so it would have to be someone who looks like a woman.
It wouldn't put me off seeing him.
At the end of the day we don't know what our clients get up to in their private life.