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Re: Slow at the minute or just me?
« Reply #975 on: June 15, 2012, 02:21:54 PM »

I second this.

We just do what we are comfortable with as setting our prices and choosing ways to proceed on an appointment. Am I right?
A question of beeing self confident and saafe ;)

And sometimes we can also discover new passes on the job by doing a simple mistake.
Paris's one inspired me a discount for convention visitors there and then during the year and regular flash promotions like every last 3 days of the month. I would never thought about it before.
Just need to think about how I can do it and the effects it will have on my business...

So, thanks Paris.



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Re: Slow at the minute or just me?
« Reply #976 on: June 15, 2012, 02:58:20 PM »
I've found this has possibly been my busiest week - however a week full of not nice people.

Regarding prices, for my area i am pretty expensive, but no more expensive than the agencies. I charge £120 per hour for incalls and £130 for outcalls. After the day i've had i am considering putting my prices up just a bit, but my prices reflect the amount of money i need before i can sit back at the end of the day and not feel guilty for what i do - sounds skewed but thats how i see it. When i worked for an agency i started to resent how much i was having to do for £50 per hour - hence the decision to go indie.
When a girl walks in with an itty-bitty waist, and a round thing in your face... ;)

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Re: Slow at the minute or just me?
« Reply #977 on: June 15, 2012, 04:55:15 PM »
To  be honest i never understand the thinking of that if they are paying more they will be nicer client  ive  never found that to be the case either way personally  what  i think what it is is because someone is paying more you may feel that your more likely to put up with their crap /shit or its not so obvious ( the money heals the pain ;D ) whereas if your not getting what you want price wise, and having to put up with crap then yes thinking that higher paying clients would be easier to deal with 
i dont think they are any easier or harder regardless of what they pay its how you perceive it
       
as i mentioned earlier ive been in for the past 3 days  charging 100 for an hour, i know for a fact that its a bloody good deal at that price for what i do and for london as well -  but all the guys that i have met have been  really nice clients, no different to if they had paid me more money ( imo)


I've found this has possibly been my busiest week - however a week full of not nice people.

Regarding prices, for my area i am pretty expensive, but no more expensive than the agencies. I charge £120 per hour for incalls and £130 for outcalls. After the day i've had i am considering putting my prices up just a bit, but my prices reflect the amount of money i need before i can sit back at the end of the day and not feel guilty for what i do - sounds skewed but thats how i see it. When i worked for an agency i started to resent how much i was having to do for £50 per hour - hence the decision to go indie.
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Re: Slow at the minute or just me?
« Reply #978 on: June 15, 2012, 05:32:23 PM »

[Well there you go! Now you see what I've been talking about to you and dealing with here in the Wild wild west...Everyone wants to do 1 hour appointments. I've just recently started offering up the 1/2 hour for $130 this week. I'm curious to see how it's going to turn out.

But now I don't feel so cheap being that you went the $100 route LOL. Or is is €100?

Im not totally sure if the stuff you posted about  skanky whore with flip flops on was directed at me as you clearly have a problem with girls charging less than you and clients seeing them or wanting the same from you  ( I wasnt able to quote it direct though)   
 
However if its not then i apologise,  if it is i couldnt care less either way . but  why would you feel cheap against what others  charge -  its irrelavant they might do more services than you /bet better than you  or guys might just like skanky whores with flips flops on for 30buck
 
  the difference is you think your  worth more than 100 dollars or whatever you charge  ie 100 dollars which is 65 pounds for half an hour  and its your choice to think that as your right however, you cant as many of us have said moan about your prices as your an independent you can charge what you like, and your right 100 bucks that is cheap, its 65 quid  i wouldnt f.. and suck for that ,(but i have no interest in those that do charge that as a price its there choice)
  i charge 80pounds  or 130 usdollars for 30mins and 130 for an hour which is 200 us dollars   
    However what you need to get your head around is this, any business owner will tell you there is a bottom line which is the lowest point the business can take before its start to fail and not be profitable
   So for me mine bottom prices  is 100 for the Bristol and at present for london.  It the miniumum i want and if i get that im happy of course i would like more i would like 150 or 200pounds but i will take 100 as that my bottom line  i wont take 90 or even 99.99  its a hundred or nothing as the bottom line
that way i wont ever fail or be unhappy because i am getting exactly the min amount that i want  and i set 
 In Ireland my bottom prices is 150 pounds or 200 us dollar and in Norway its 230 pounds

  As far as i can see, you dont have a bottom line set as your accepting a price you dont want and your not happy with. So thats why your failing
   
But again i dont think im cheap  and im happy with what i do-  if i was charging 30 quid and on the street i still woulnt think i was cheap as its what i want to earn it would be my bottom line
 
you on the other charge less than what is your bottom line  and then moan about it and then bitch about those that charge less than you - i dont get it maybe if you spent more time worrying about your own business instead of what other charged you would earn more money  ( just a thought)   

and i dont need to see 15 clients a day why the f... would i im not a machine 
 for london what im charging is a bloody good deal, and guys are paying it, and im taking it and they are all telling me its a good deal and that i should charge more but im not going to it was a mistake but it working out just fine   also i dont look at what i make per day i look at what i make per week /per tour  per day drives me nuts 
       So if i do 7 clients a day min ( which is half of what you mentiond and doing more than that) - my cost are say 130 a day ( hotel trains adverts ect ) so 3 days at 700 is 2100pounds  take of 400in expenses  and it just short of 1700pounds min for three days work  pounds which is 2700 us dollars.   

Personally i think thats pretty good earnings for such a  cheap whore with flip flops on ;D although mine flip flops are Gucci and have real  diamondes in them  as im worth it and in conclusion i would rather be a cheap skanky whore in flip flops with roughly 3000us dollars in my crap tescos carrier bag   for 2and a half days work  than charge more and earn less   

     
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« Reply #979 on: June 15, 2012, 05:43:37 PM »
I know this is quite an old posting, but it really annoys me when clients try and get a "discount" because of the credit crunch.

All of us have certain standards we wish to follow, and will set prices on what we want. So for a client to try and get in on the cheap is just cheeky.

Like me going into a restaurant and saying "Can I get this meal half price, cos we are going through a bad credit crunch".... I dont think so!

I had a client try and do that a short while ago. He wanted an overnight booking, my standard rate is £1000 (for 12 hours), and he was offering me £200. I challenged him, and he was like "we're in a credit crunch you know!"... and??????

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« Reply #980 on: June 15, 2012, 05:52:35 PM »
I couldn't agree more Lolita

But just to get back on topic, still my slowest week ever  >:(

Making me wonder if the Euros are affecting things here, or if the proposed law changes are frightening guys away.

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« Reply #981 on: June 15, 2012, 05:58:03 PM »
All this talk of how slow it is, is making me panic a *wee* bit.

I'm sorting my life out at the moment. Just got a new incall that I'm moving into at the end of the month, and am sorting out website and pictures and stuff.

But still feeling like... oh God what if there are no client's anymore?

Luckily my outgoings aren't going to be too high (£700 p/m- including rent and bills) so I should be fine.

So nervous about properly starting again!

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« Reply #982 on: June 16, 2012, 01:07:50 AM »
Im not totally sure if the stuff you posted about  skanky whore with flip flops on was directed at me as you clearly have a problem with girls charging less than you and clients seeing them or wanting the same from you  ( I wasnt able to quote it direct though)   
 
However if its not then i apologise,  if it is i couldnt care less either way . but  why would you feel cheap against what others  charge -  its irrelavant they might do more services than you /bet better than you  or guys might just like skanky whores with flips flops on for 30buck
 
  the difference is you think your  worth more than 100 dollars or whatever you charge  ie 100 dollars which is 65 pounds for half an hour  and its your choice to think that as your right however, you cant as many of us have said moan about your prices as your an independent you can charge what you like, and your right 100 bucks that is cheap, its 65 quid  i wouldnt f.. and suck for that ,(but i have no interest in those that do charge that as a price its there choice)
  i charge 80pounds  or 130 usdollars for 30mins and 130 for an hour which is 200 us dollars   
    However what you need to get your head around is this, any business owner will tell you there is a bottom line which is the lowest point the business can take before its start to fail and not be profitable
   So for me mine bottom prices  is 100 for the Bristol and at present for london.  It the miniumum i want and if i get that im happy of course i would like more i would like 150 or 200pounds but i will take 100 as that my bottom line  i wont take 90 or even 99.99  its a hundred or nothing as the bottom line
that way i wont ever fail or be unhappy because i am getting exactly the min amount that i want  and i set 
 In Ireland my bottom prices is 150 pounds or 200 us dollar and in Norway its 230 pounds

  As far as i can see, you dont have a bottom line set as your accepting a price you dont want and your not happy with. So thats why your failing
   
But again i dont think im cheap  and im happy with what i do-  if i was charging 30 quid and on the street i still woulnt think i was cheap as its what i want to earn it would be my bottom line
 
you on the other charge less than what is your bottom line  and then moan about it and then bitch about those that charge less than you - i dont get it maybe if you spent more time worrying about your own business instead of what other charged you would earn more money  ( just a thought)   

and i dont need to see 15 clients a day why the f... would i im not a machine 
 for london what im charging is a bloody good deal, and guys are paying it, and im taking it and they are all telling me its a good deal and that i should charge more but im not going to it was a mistake but it working out just fine   also i dont look at what i make per day i look at what i make per week /per tour  per day drives me nuts 
       So if i do 7 clients a day min ( which is half of what you mentiond and doing more than that) - my cost are say 130 a day ( hotel trains adverts ect ) so 3 days at 700 is 2100pounds  take of 400in expenses  and it just short of 1700pounds min for three days work  pounds which is 2700 us dollars.   

Personally i think thats pretty good earnings for such a  cheap whore with flip flops on ;D although mine flip flops are Gucci and have real  diamondes in them  as im worth it and in conclusion i would rather be a cheap skanky whore in flip flops with roughly 3000us dollars in my crap tescos carrier bag   for 2and a half days work  than charge more and earn less   

Hun, you wasted your breath. I was not referring to you as walking in flip flops. I'm talking about these Cali chicks out here. Please don't be offended and get all catty with me. We're women. Independent women all working together, not putting each other down.

I will take your advice to heart and thankyou for explaining about the bottom-line. I will try to work out ways to do so and have recently tweaked my rates a bit to match yours, but at the moment it's still been a dead week for me. I mind my business and I make money, own a condo and have my own creature comforts. I'm not failing...I've just hit a bit of a slow spot.

It's bad enough my confidence and self-esteem is damaged due to lack of clients...you made it worse. Thanks

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« Reply #983 on: June 16, 2012, 01:56:49 AM »
Work has been good for me at the moment. However the phone has not rung once today. I thought that's fine as I have workmen at the apartment and so wasn't taking bookings until the evening anyway. When 6pm came around they got a bit techy as they wanted to go out and watch the England game.  ::) At least I know why things were quiet now!  ;D

Independent women all working together, not putting each other down.
They rather find some desperate bitch walking around in flip flops and give them $30.

Blaine, we don't slag off other sex workers here regardless of how they work of what they charge. Not everybody who charges low rates or operates differently to you is a 'desperate bitch', and we'd appreciate you keeping your offensive, narrow minded views to yourself.

I think Amy's right here. If someone wants to do a similar job in a different setting then we shouldn't judge them for it. It's their choice to work where they want, just as much as being an indoor sex worker is our choice.

Dominatrixes looking down on those who provide sexual services, indoor sex workers looking down on outdoor sex workers etc etc., and all thinking that one person is somehow better than the other isn't really in the spirit of solidarity.  :-\

I think every person who works in the sex industry (at all levels) receives enough of a lack of understanding from people who are only exposed to the stereotypes of the industry (drug-addled street girl vs. £500ph Mayfair escort); we don't need to do it ourselves.

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Re: Slow at the minute or just me?
« Reply #984 on: June 16, 2012, 02:01:27 AM »
As I said if you wernt refering to me then please accept my apologies I simply read it as you were.
The last thing I would do is slag of other escorts because as you say we all do the same thing
You.were moaning about your prices and. your clients and I said your the only one who can change it no one else can do it but you. In fact we all said it thenytou started moaning about girls in your area that charge less . Sadly   I don't have much paitence for anyone that moan About stuff that's totally within the ability to change 

And for what its worth when I started out in this  business iwas charging 30 pounds all inn I knew no better or worse.  its even on my first field report 30quid. So I can't even deny it (lol) And l ike you I didn't feel good or hap py with it so I change it and virtually reinvented myself
I cringe now with embarrassment at those prices . but for a while I was happy with it and when wasnt I changed everthing

 Which was exactly my point just got side tracked cos. Football been on so gone quite

 Sadly saafe wasn't around when I started in fact I don't even think the internet was around either. So I never got any help or input from anyone
So when I do give it it comes from the heart and I would hate anyone to feel that they are working and not getting what they want to earn because that souldestroying  because I really do know what its like from the bottom up in this business
 
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« Reply #985 on: June 16, 2012, 02:16:06 AM »
You.were moaning about your prices and. your clients and I said your the only one who can change it no one else can do it but you. In fact we all said it thenytou started moaning about girls in your area that charge less . Sadly   I don't have much paitence for anyone that moan About stuff that's totally within the ability to change 

So when I do give it it comes from the heart and I would hate anyone to feel that they are working and not getting what they want to earn because that souldestroying  because I really do know what its like from the bottom up in this business

I think Paris (in all her wisdom :)) is spot on. We are all self-employed and we decide when our days off are, what our rates are, what clients we choose to see etc etc. If we don't like it that much we don't have to do it.

Obviously it's not as simple as that in real life and we're only human...if we're completely skint we might see that dodgy sounding guy they'd turn down on a good day, or offer a discount or whatever. But when you feel like you're constantly having your boundaries pushed and it's seriously affecting you then you do have to say enough is enough but only you can do that.

I've digressed.....sorry. Back on topic

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Re: Slow at the minute or just me?
« Reply #986 on: June 16, 2012, 02:21:42 AM »
LOL even when I go away on holiday, and come back to work I still feel like that  will there be any clients will men still want sex
Trust me after 10 years I still have exactly the same thoughts but you will be fine


All this talk of how slow it is, is making me panic a *wee* bit.

I'm sorting my life out at the moment. Just got a new incall that I'm moving into at the end of the month, and am sorting out website and pictures and stuff.


But still feeling like... oh God what if there are no client's anymore?

Luckily my outgoings aren't going to be too high (£700 p/m- including rent and bills) so I should be fine.

So nervous about properly starting again!

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« Reply #987 on: June 16, 2012, 10:52:01 AM »
LOL even when I go away on holiday, and come back to work I still feel like that  will there be any clients will men still want sex
Trust me after 10 years I still have exactly the same thoughts but you will be fine


All this talk of how slow it is, is making me panic a *wee* bit.

I'm sorting my life out at the moment. Just got a new incall that I'm moving into at the end of the month, and am sorting out website and pictures and stuff.


But still feeling like... oh God what if there are no client's anymore?

Luckily my outgoings aren't going to be too high (£700 p/m- including rent and bills) so I should be fine.

So nervous about properly starting again!

xx

I do exactly the same thing and every time I come back after a break it is manic for a few days I think what was I worrying about. LOL I am glad I am not the only one who does this

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« Reply #988 on: June 16, 2012, 09:49:58 PM »


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LOL even when I go away on holiday, and come back to work I still feel like that  will there be any clients will men still want sex
Trust me after 10 years I still have exactly the same thoughts but you will be fine

I do exactly the same thing and every time I come back after a break it is manic for a few days I think what was I worrying about. LOL I am glad I am not the only one who does this



Thanks Girls! Yeah I've changed my working name etc so hopefully I'll get some of that newbie interest  ;)

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« Reply #989 on: June 19, 2012, 11:04:53 PM »
We are all self-employed and we decide when our days off are, what our rates are, what clients we choose to see etc etc. If we don't like it that much we don't have to do it.

That's not entirely true though. I believe in this day and age, the market sets the rates. Sure one can set a rate to whatever they want, but doesn't mean people going to pay it. The market (which consists of clients and escorts) is such a stronghold. It's power forces things to either happen or not happen.

The many times I've heard "it's too much" or "too rich for my blood"...that's the market talking. And different markets for different areas.

For example today: I offer massage for $60. The guy then says he wants mutual touching and a happy ending. I then say, "well it'll be $80 all together" (they want extras it's GONNA BE extra). He says, "I only have $60". I'm like okay I'll do $60 no problem. But then I didn't hear anything else from him.

What was that all about?
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